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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
17. unfortunately, bankruptcy (and debt generally)
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:59 AM
Mar 2012

are not uncommonly factors in suicides.

http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com/bankruptcy-foreclosure-and-suicide/

Last week, a young father of two and a political candidate for office in Bristol, Connecticut committed suicide. He left behind a note which showed that he was concerned about his finances and wanted to avoid bankruptcy. The 38 year old had just started a new business and was facing difficulties in the current economy. In Berkeley, California, a 51 year old man killed his family and then himself in a murder-suicide. His note also indicated financial problems. The issue of financial problems leading to suicide range from college students buried in credit card debt and student loans to the elderly saddled with medical bills and decreased insurance coverage.

As noted there, people who commit suicide do not always kill only themselves. And the presence of firearms is particularly associated with suicide-homicide, since firearms provide the easiest and most effective way to kill other(s) and then one's self.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder%E2%80%93suicide

In a research specifically related to murder–suicide, Milton Rosenbaum (1990) discovered the murder–suicide perpetrators to be vastly different from perpetrators of homicide alone. Whereas murderer–suicides were found to be highly depressed and overwhelmingly men, other murderers were not generally depressed and more likely to include women in their ranks.[2] In the U.S. the overwhelming number of cases are male-on-female and involve guns.[3] Around one-third of partner homicides end in the suicide of the perpetrator. From national and international data and interviews with family members of murder–suicide perpetrators, the following are the key predictors of murder–suicide: access to a gun, a history of substance abuse, the male partner some years older than the female partner, a break-up or pending break-up, a history of battering, and suicidal ideation by the perpetrator.

Though there is no national tracking system for murder–suicides in the United States, medical studies into the phenomenon estimate between 1,000 to 1,500 deaths per year in the US,[4] with the majority occurring between spouses or intimate partners, males were the vast majority of the perpetrators, and over 90% of murder suicides involved a firearm. Depression, marital or/and financial problems, and other problems are generally motivators.

So unfortunately, other people may well be at risk in situations like the one you describe.
they're pissed cause after the first election he personally took their guns away...door to door spanone Mar 2012 #1
That was only in D.C. pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #6
damn my memory spanone Mar 2012 #14
I keep seeing emails from gun stores about Obama's (and Pelosi) Gun Grab NightWatcher Mar 2012 #2
The NRA knows COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #3
Frightened, insecure people and a bunch of guns. What could possibly go wrong? marmar Mar 2012 #4
Exactly... absyntheminded Mar 2012 #7
That's some effective marketing. Works every four years. And in between. (nt) enough Mar 2012 #5
How many f'ing times are they going to fall for this same bullshit CanonRay Mar 2012 #8
at least they can pawn them ... iverglas Mar 2012 #16
Hey, not only morons are buying guns! Jester Messiah Mar 2012 #9
I know a guy who ran his credit card up to the max buying guns and ammo after Obama won the election NNN0LHI Mar 2012 #10
Thanks for the laugh ... and I don't doubt it a bit. lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #11
A guy in my neighborhood did the same thing. Javaman Mar 2012 #15
unfortunately, bankruptcy (and debt generally) iverglas Mar 2012 #17
I'm still waiting for the shortage of shipping containers onethatcares Mar 2012 #12
I'm always amused by this... Javaman Mar 2012 #13
A few data points to shed some light on the OP, which is woefully deficient in facts slackmaster Mar 2012 #18
Because of all the guns he's taken away in his first three years in office? bullwinkle428 Mar 2012 #19
Democrats buy guns too.. Upton Mar 2012 #20
of course, nobody actually does anything iverglas Mar 2012 #22
Regarding the value of firearms: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #24
by the way iverglas Mar 2012 #23
I wonder what they're going to do with all of those guns and ammo Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #21
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