This still sticks in my craw (Reply #77)

In the discussion thread: Bernie Sanders tells Ed Schultz: Southern Democrats are tired of being abandoned by the party [View all]

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Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:18 AM

vi5 (13,305 posts)

77. This still sticks in my craw

Honestly, the fact that Obama had no place anywhere in his administration for Dean was the first major indication to me where his head and heart were at. Then factor in who he DID find places for (Rahm, Duncan, Holder, etc.) And that gut instinct has mostly been proven right.

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97 replies	Author	Time	Post
Bernie Sanders tells Ed Schultz: Southern Democrats are tired of being abandoned by the party [View all]	Galraedia	Oct 2013	OP
The last time we won both houses	hootinholler	Oct 2013	#1
+1	jsr	Oct 2013	#3
The "50 state strategy" is what I first thought of when I saw this too........	socialist_n_TN	Oct 2013	#4
That's absolutely right.	LuvNewcastle	Oct 2013	#9
Economic rights and the idea that the government shouldn't intrude	bigbrother05	Oct 2013	#19
I'm not suggesting that we abandon our positions on civil rights	LuvNewcastle	Oct 2013	#42
Totally support what you are saying.	truedelphi	Oct 2013	#53
This is one of the real kind of reasons the wealthy want to OWN all parties	nolabels	Oct 2013	#58
This is why even the petit bourgeoisie should not support capitalism.....	socialist_n_TN	Oct 2013	#92
down there	Chaco Dundee	Oct 2013	#24
Exactly! Many of my husband's high school friends are working class whites and they vote repub	anneboleyn	Oct 2013	#45
The Democratic Party became a Wall-Street Party for one reason:	Volaris	Oct 2013	#70
You assume that shoveling money creates victory for the shoveler but facts do	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2013	#85
It depends on the local electorate	Trekologer	Oct 2013	#90
but they are just another wall street party. nt	tomp	Oct 2013	#75
Yes, and we also might win some...	prairierose	Oct 2013	#32
Might win some in the West? The entire West Coast is Blue, all Senators, Governors	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2013	#86
Yes, the west coast is blue, but...	prairierose	Oct 2013	#95
We All Thought The Same Thing	DallasNE	Oct 2013	#41
I agree.	LuvNewcastle	Oct 2013	#43
+One Million	tsuki	Oct 2013	#5
What you said	MsLeopard	Oct 2013	#6
Absolutely!	Le Taz Hot	Oct 2013	#8
I started donating to DNC when Dean became chair.	eridani	Oct 2013	#61
This. ^^^	CrispyQ	Oct 2013	#11
Not exactly true--	Jackpine Radical	Oct 2013	#15
OMFG!	hootinholler	Oct 2013	#21
Exactly right. nt	Doremus	Oct 2013	#27
+1	leftstreet	Oct 2013	#38
+1	uponit7771	Oct 2013	#62
This still sticks in my craw	vi5	Oct 2013	#77
yup	justabob	Oct 2013	#2
The Democrats need to have a presence in EVERY state	Le Taz Hot	Oct 2013	#7
That's right, you have to enter the race in order to win it.	LuvNewcastle	Oct 2013	#10
I like how an Independent is the one trying to save the Democratic Party	ChangeUp106	Oct 2013	#12
Hell yeah, Senator Sanders!	Rebellious Republican	Oct 2013	#13
And you have a pretty good champion to rally around.	Jackpine Radical	Oct 2013	#16
Thanks JP!	Rebellious Republican	Oct 2013	#44
K & R	Thinkingabout	Oct 2013	#14
Not just Congressional seats, there is a need to focus on State Houses and state legislatures.	Fla Dem	Oct 2013	#17
NO shit! The ALEC brigade can subvert many federal programs	hootinholler	Oct 2013	#22
I agree	secondvariety	Oct 2013	#74
Bernie really, really gets this demographic and dynamic. here's why	cali	Oct 2013	#18
He doesn't get white Southerners. Different culture than Vermont Yankees. nt	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#23
he gets the commonalities of rural, white folks.	cali	Oct 2013	#37
Attn Southern Dems: Elections Are Every Two Years	otohara	Oct 2013	#20
Well it wasn't our fault that the DLC got Obama elected..	ananda	Oct 2013	#25
Last time I looked, a 55M cross section of Americans got Obama elected!	George II	Oct 2013	#31
+100000	YoungDemCA	Oct 2013	#60
What Sanders doesn't get is that government isn't an economic issue	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#26
Exactly	coldmountain	Oct 2013	#28
This message was self-deleted by its author	SunSeeker	Oct 2013	#56
you're wrong. that's exactly what he does get.	cali	Oct 2013	#39
Can you name a prominent liberal white Southerner	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#46
The Dems in the south tend to be economic liberals	IronLionZion	Oct 2013	#49
Virginia barely qualifies as a southern state these days.	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#50
Classic "no true Scotsman" response. n/t	Tanuki	Oct 2013	#78
You just made Sanders point n/t	leftstreet	Oct 2013	#66
Tim Kaine and Mark Warner	westerebus	Oct 2013	#67
Warner is not a liberal.	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#81
Kaine is DLC as is Warner.	westerebus	Oct 2013	#93
sorry but I don't buy that...	Volaris	Oct 2013	#73
Well, Uncle Sam did go down there and end legal apartheid, post TVA.	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#80
I think your description is of racists and homphobes and to extend that to all	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2013	#88
There are of course exceptions to every rule.	geek tragedy	Oct 2013	#91
I love Bernie Sanders, think he's a great Senator, but.........	George II	Oct 2013	#29
You know, thats a GREAT point!	7962	Oct 2013	#33
not a great point.	tomp	Oct 2013	#76
I just hope that since	dotymed	Oct 2013	#30
+1000	MissDeeds	Oct 2013	#36
+1 million	n2doc	Oct 2013	#34
Precisely it's like fighting with one arm tied behind your back or negotiating from a position	Uncle Joe	Oct 2013	#54
Bring back Howard Dean	Arugula Latte	Oct 2013	#35
We made progress under Howard Dean's 50 state strategy.	bvar22	Oct 2013	#40
Here's what we got	ProSense	Oct 2013	#48
Start with Kentucky	ProSense	Oct 2013	#47
Obama made an irrevocable mistake when he abandoned Dean's 50 state strategy.	last1standing	Oct 2013	#51
k and r	nashville_brook	Oct 2013	#52
If they're "hung up on gay marriage issues", fuck'em	MNBrewer	Oct 2013	#55
Im a southern democrat and I agree with you 100, no 1000, no 1000000%!	LostOne4Ever	Oct 2013	#65
Can we get those guys to vote Democratic without abandoning what they're "hung up on"?	Silent3	Oct 2013	#57
I think we need more Southern Democrats at the grassroots level...	YoungDemCA	Oct 2013	#59
Exactly as our Southern DUers keep trying to tell us here. They exist.	Hekate	Oct 2013	#63
As a southern democrat I just want to say:	LostOne4Ever	Oct 2013	#64
As a gay person I did not think Bernie meant any such thing.	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2013	#89
Well said, Bluenorthwest, well said.	westerebus	Oct 2013	#97
50 State Strategy! Howard Dean was right!	NuttyFluffers	Oct 2013	#68
Rs have enough money to buy top Ds to stop a 50-state strategy.	Festivito	Oct 2013	#69
One of the few in congress who really gets it	madokie	Oct 2013	#71
If it's MORE important to someone to keep their gay neighbor from getting married	Warren DeMontague	Oct 2013	#72
Social Issues	get the red out	Oct 2013	#79
Like it or not, the South is the hub of evangelical Christianity in America...	YoungDemCA	Oct 2013	#82
Very true	get the red out	Oct 2013	#84
The national Party comes to TX and sucks up millions in donations.	hobbit709	Oct 2013	#83
The top members of the Democratic Party cannot keep abandoning those who voted for them.	AnotherMcIntosh	Oct 2013	#87
Somebody Please Get This Link To Senator Bernie Sanders.........	global1	Oct 2013	#94
uggh. It's not that simple, Bernie	ecstatic	Oct 2013	#96

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