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brer cat

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17. Some people need to learn some modifiers.

Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:16 PM

Oct 2013

To write an entire post bashing the south using only "they" or "the south" includes every one of us. No one on DU would allow a post to stand that attacked any racial or ethnic group based on the actions of some members of that group, but it is ok when it comes to southerners.

It is also not some southern radical right power structure that is working to spread its tentacles...it is and has been northern/western politicians using the southern right wing voters to enhance their power. Jimmy Carter was not elected playing to the bigots in the south. That would be Nixon, Regan and Bushes.

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"American by birth southern by the grace of God" [View all] wilt the stilt Oct 2013 OP

Thank you Wilt for this post... haikugal Oct 2013 #1

Loyal to their region than their country bermudat Oct 2013 #2

Those who profess their loyalty to the south (region over nation) are the least American. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #3

I guess "they" should just get off DU. nt brer cat Oct 2013 #4

NO Brer, our Souther DUers have to DEAL with that climate. They don't condone it. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #9

I was born and raised in GA and live there still. brer cat Oct 2013 #15

Our objection is NOT to individual progressives in the South. Far from it. pnwmom Oct 2013 #16

Some people need to learn some modifiers. brer cat Oct 2013 #17

" northern/western politicians using the southern right wing voters to enhance their power." IrishAyes Oct 2013 #24

I'm not a southern gentleman...in fact I'm not a man brer cat Oct 2013 #27

sigh... IrishAyes Oct 2013 #30

Brer, of course there are nice southerners and liberals ones too. wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #26

My point exactly, Wilt. brer cat Oct 2013 #28

there are always exceptions to the rule wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #33

That's what I've heard racists say when using the N word in front of an African American; that Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #38

We are first generation people. wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #40

I meant Letterman's Program which is based in New York, personally I have no problem with it, only Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #41

Really Uncle Joe wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #43

Really wilt the stilt, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #46

The NE is better for the changing leaves wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #49

Like I said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it's all subjective. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #52

The South doesn't have (a lot of) natural lakes, Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #122

What the FUCK??? I grew up in northwest butt-fuck OHIO and New York City IS madinmaryland Oct 2013 #47

No doubt. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #48

Better than Paris or Athens? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #81

The South pretty solidly fought to keep slavery. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #80

The South as a whole fought for a multitude of reasons, "regionalsim" being the prime reason. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #90

Excuses. I learned history in the South. I know the lies they tell. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #92

I just presented a neutral source supporting my contention and you have no rebuttal other Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #93

I heard all of that before. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #94

The problem is even when the South changes and it is, "regionalists" don't want to take yes Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #95

Which is a totally unfair thing to do. cordelia Oct 2013 #50

Having lived in the South, I see Southerners as victims of their own narrow culture. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #79

I was born down south 65 years ago. In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #5

Have you seen a lot of progress in that time? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #10

I haven't been home in a long time. In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #13

Doesn't it reflect poorly on your son Fastcars Oct 2013 #6

Of those available, it IS the most progressive. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #11

You should be very proud of your son. It's really tough being a liberal in the South. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #82

not at all wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #25

When a minority student attends such an institution Mariana Oct 2013 #74

Its that type of loyalty to the region LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #7

Good observation. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #8

Southern by birth, American by the grace of God curlyred Oct 2013 #12

It's an interesting thought theaocp Oct 2013 #14

People's families have been in the south so many generations, not migrating Lex Oct 2013 #18

Like "native" Californians. pintobean Oct 2013 #34

Exactly. nt Lex Oct 2013 #39

Lots of Yankees moving to the South pstokely Oct 2013 #131

I think it's deeper than that. They pine for Southern Glory Days. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #19

You said it, pal. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #20

Son of the Confederacy checking in Ezlivin Oct 2013 #21

Y'all are the quiet group. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #128

That has not been my experience at all A Little Weird Oct 2013 #22

It's not a thing in the deep South. It's just one more swipe at the region with a cordelia Oct 2013 #53

Yup pintobean Oct 2013 #56

if it wasn't for my kids I would be out of here wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #88

Denver has its own problems Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #117

smog you say smog wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #118

I think the West actually has the worst air quality Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #121

check this out wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #129

There's no way that Nashville has worse air than Los Angeles Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #130

I live in the SE wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #133

The worst air I ever experienced was in Los Angeles Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #135

all that is true wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #136

Not since Obama was elected. Hoyt Oct 2013 #59

Not sure about the site itself but these numbers agree with what I have read over the years. Fastcars Oct 2013 #23

Note - In Vietnam JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #85

Approximately 100,000 sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #29

That's all very well and good, IrishAyes Oct 2013 #31

The elite of no red state sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #32

You've got a good point there. But I guarantee you the yoemen are dead serious. & deadly. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #35

In any rampaging horde sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #36

So the fox chases the hounds... IrishAyes Oct 2013 #37

My father was an ILWU member sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #42

A lot of the men did, from what I hear - and it made Harry laugh. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #55

What is your point? This changes what? n-t Logical Oct 2013 #44

It was to make clear sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #87

Good honest post. Good information. Many here will dismiss it. n-t Logical Oct 2013 #45

I dismiss it because it's horseshit. More broadbrushing. cordelia Oct 2013 #51

Lol, thanks for making my point! Classic! nt Logical Oct 2013 #60

You didn't have a point. pintobean Oct 2013 #63

Born and raised in Kansas, but not too clueless to defend this GOP... Logical Oct 2013 #65

You basically posted a +1 pintobean Oct 2013 #69

It's some more truth you don't want to admit. No one is criticizing you, Hoyt Oct 2013 #61

+1000! nt Logical Oct 2013 #66

Great point. pintobean Oct 2013 #70

Kind of a slap at atheists, IMO. closeupready Oct 2013 #54

People just do NOT want to believe this shit....They have no idea how often that Confederate Battle VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #57

How often is it seen and how many people fly it considering there are nearly 115 million people Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #67

The confederate flag is no different than the swastika RainDog Oct 2013 #58

Exactly, and that yellow "Gadsden" flag has been usurped as a symbol of hatred. Hoyt Oct 2013 #62

Both are most definitely evil but they're not equivalent by a long shot. If the U.S. or South had Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #68

Yes. Slavery was worse RainDog Oct 2013 #71

Dumbest argument ever. This isn't a genocide pissing contest. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #72

As my first sentence stated, they were both most definitely evil but the people weren't taken away Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #73

The point in fact was that genocide was part of the slave trade RainDog Oct 2013 #75

Slavery has been a human curse long before the Moors ruled Spain Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #76

Yes. Slavery existed for a long time RainDog Oct 2013 #77

When you kill 10 million Africans, you aren't called Hitler RainDog Oct 2013 #83

Yes, Leopold II committed genocide and slavery of that I don't disagree and he came to power Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #89

Kurtz, in Heart of Darkness is modeled on one of King Leopold's men RainDog Oct 2013 #99

Leopold II wiped out roughly half the population of the Congo. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #104

Here's what we agree on RainDog Oct 2013 #123

We agree on this. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #124

Thanks for sharing RainDog Oct 2013 #125

... Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #127

capital moves RainDog Oct 2013 #64

Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #78

'nuther southerner here BellaKos Oct 2013 #84

Now The Great Migration reverses JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #86

I originally thought that was the reference, too RainDog Oct 2013 #102

I was born and raised in the South. Aristus Oct 2013 #91

Athens and UGA are far more progressive places than the OP would indicate. dawg Oct 2013 #96

percentage of vote is skewed wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #97

My point is that Athens is a progressive place and there are plenty of progressive ... dawg Oct 2013 #98

Greek systems, imo, are asshole generators all over the U.S. RainDog Oct 2013 #101

what is the percentage of African Americans in the student population? wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #103

"there is no liberal tradition in Georgia" dawg Oct 2013 #106

Carter is hardly a traditional liberal compared to the great northern liberals. wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #107

Which states didn't vote for Northern Liberal FDR in 1932? Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #109

LOL-1932 and Georgia is liberal wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #110

Do you mean this election in 1948 when 7 of the 11 former Confederate States voted for Democratic Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #115

are you saying the south was liberal in 1948 and 1956 wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #116

All I did was post how the nation voted in the Presidential Elections from 1932-1956 Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #120

I apologize for the fences and the barricades. dawg Oct 2013 #112

okay with me wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #114

aren't there a lot of Northeastern and Midwestern transplants in Atlanta? pstokely Oct 2013 #132

American by birth, Gay by the Grace of God, Southern Gentleman by loving parents. NT William769 Oct 2013 #100

I really like this post. pintobean Oct 2013 #105

Thanks. Just keeping it real. William769 Oct 2013 #108

eat your heart out wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #111

Cardinal Nation. pintobean Oct 2013 #113

They really have a great tradition wilt the stilt Oct 2013 #119

Southern by birth, American by extensive travel and education Warpy Oct 2013 #126

I live in SC for 2 months of every year scheming daemons Oct 2013 #134