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MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
54. Yes but . . .
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 10:40 PM
Dec 2011

The 'Licans have been rolling out nasty for a couple of years already. In doing so, they are already finding themselves on very mucky, smelly ground. I mean, once you've called the president an illegal alien who's devoted to the overthrow of the very government he heads, how much further can you go?

Which is not to say that the wingnutariat won't try to go even more negative. However, the country's sick of them already. Upping the crazy is likely to cost them votes more than it wins them. And it's likely to also cost them downticket votes, in that the whole Republican party is being tarred with the zealot brush (which is sadly, not untrue). Just about any Dem can run on a platform of "My opponent is a crackpot, and should never be given influence over issues that matter to sane people."

It will come down to three things, I predict: 1) The Obama campaign's ability to get the issues (including those raised by the OP) out to the people; 2) the robustness of the GOTV effort (where Dems appear to be leading at present); and the degree to which votes can be fairly cast and counted.

This last is the 'Licans' ace in the hole. If they can't win on merits, they'll win on stealing the vote and we all know it. We need to not do what Gore did, which was to make the contest close enough to steal.

And concentrate on local/state races!!! Obama needs a Congress he can work with. If Tea Party Congressmen get shown the door, the survivors will be more tractable. And citizens in the 50 states need legislatures *not* devoted to shoving a broken bottle up the workingman's ass.

I like how you think! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #1
Thank you ..but let's look at number 10..Freek Show.. Stuart G Dec 2011 #5
Now make up stupid replies to all of them The Second Stone Dec 2011 #55
What a wonderful idea! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #64
You must be joking...with the M$M doing their corporate overlords' bidding with 24/7 Obama = Satan truebrit71 Dec 2011 #2
I don't agree with a lot of this RZM Dec 2011 #7
I'm ready for a real scrap. ellisonz Dec 2011 #21
Yes but . . . MrModerate Dec 2011 #54
In Illinois, at least one Teaparty Puke will lose..Joe Walsh vs Tammy Ducksworth.. Stuart G Dec 2011 #56
Sadly, I suspect you are correct. Relaxing would be a fatal mistake. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #28
well if Mitt were to win PatrynXX Dec 2011 #58
I'd love to agree BUT toddwv Dec 2011 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #22
You got that right. Rozlee Dec 2011 #45
he wasn't voted in twice PatrynXX Dec 2011 #60
I think we will do extremely well indeed! Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #23
If by "getting his ass kicked" Estevan Dec 2011 #48
It may BE victory . . . MrModerate Dec 2011 #57
The cure for that Estevan Dec 2011 #59
I don't see a landslide as possible in this environment RZM Dec 2011 #6
Anything is possible..One example to prove this idea. Stuart G Dec 2011 #8
For the record, I never thought that was impossible RZM Dec 2011 #16
"Could" be but he's a black guy proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #9
Well.........he is a black guy..but I am being honest.. most of us think he is ok. Stuart G Dec 2011 #33
Could be, BUT FOR elleng Dec 2011 #10
And, throw in.... GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #31
Right, included in 'theft.' elleng Dec 2011 #40
Replace your entire equation with one thing: Newt. joshcryer Dec 2011 #11
A landslide could well happen, but will the votes be counted? tblue Dec 2011 #12
That's what poll observers are for. joshcryer Dec 2011 #13
I don't trust them either...but, Stuart G Dec 2011 #15
65 percent? Is that really your prediction? RZM Dec 2011 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #24
Wishful thinking ThomWV Dec 2011 #14
i like the way you think oldhippydude Dec 2011 #17
I'm begining to think that too. applegrove Dec 2011 #19
You are only looking at one side of the equation. Kablooie Dec 2011 #20
no President has won reelection with current levels of unemployment in 75 years. However I think Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #25
The November unemployment rate was 8.6 percent NNN0LHI Dec 2011 #29
I hope 2012 is a landslide for the Democratic Party. PufPuf23 Dec 2011 #26
.You're forgetting the electronic voting machines B Calm Dec 2011 #27
It could happen! greytdemocrat Dec 2011 #30
Yes, November is a long way off, you are correct. Stuart G Dec 2011 #32
It certainly could be if we play our hand right /nt jimlup Dec 2011 #34
A victory 41mag Dec 2011 #35
Republicans own the propaganda machine. tabasco Dec 2011 #36
They sure do..but they don't own all of us. Stuart G Dec 2011 #37
And 10's of billions in free ads because of the "Citizens United" SC ruling. AlinPA Dec 2011 #53
I certainly hope so. jwirr Dec 2011 #38
Let's hope so. Scurrilous Dec 2011 #39
Gawd I needed something posted like this......thank you so much. a kennedy Dec 2011 #41
The Behavior of Congressional Republicans Is Turning The Country Against The GOP GETPLANING Dec 2011 #42
They are going to go into that voting booth and say to themselves.. Stuart G Dec 2011 #43
Recommended for ambition of imagination. WheelWalker Dec 2011 #44
For all the Criticism Obama Has Taken, Some of it Justified, On the Road Dec 2011 #46
I hope so. Please people, don't let them screw us over even more!! nt Duct Tape Dec 2011 #47
It could indeed be so Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #49
Maybe secondvariety Dec 2011 #50
The two words missing from this discussion are "voter turnout" cadaverdog Dec 2011 #52
I expect stalemate again after the 2012 elections. roamer65 Dec 2011 #51
How would you like to be a down-ticket Republican congressman with Newt at the top? Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #69
"Reform of Health Insurance Helps People. More people insured.." dflprincess Dec 2011 #61
Thank you for posting this. As a pre-exister, who also has to buy temp insurance for her son because ScreamingMeemie Dec 2011 #63
Republicans control more states, have gerrymandered, passed voter suppression measures, we have more Pryderi Dec 2011 #62
The media does not want a landslide. Who watches the news when one candidate has a 20+ point lead? paparush Dec 2011 #65
Thanks, Stuart G. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #66
Going to be a lot closer than 08. center rising Dec 2011 #67
Notice all the "buts" and negatives in this thread? Around my neighborhood we... TreasonousBastard Dec 2011 #68
Thanks for the laugh AnOhioan Dec 2011 #70
It wont be. A lot of us are pissed Sky Masterson Dec 2011 #71
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