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18. Let's assume for a second that every convicted felon actually did what they were convicted of...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:24 PM
Nov 2013

Which is obviously not remotely close to reality. But let's just assume for a moment it's true.

What kind of crimes constitute felonies? In my state of Arizona, the possession of ANY quantity of marijuana is a felony. I have pot in my room as I type this. Are you going to tell me there's a meaningful difference in responsibility or ethics between myself and the sorry sap who got sent to prison for pot?

Hell no. So let's up the crime. Let's increase the seriousness. You will find that along the way each crime possesses two bodies of people. Those who got away with it and those who did not. The ones who got away with it retain all of their rights and we as ignorant individuals, or even as informed individuals, would fight for their right to vote. But the second they're convicted all of a sudden they lose that right?

What is so inherently disturbing about a felony conviction that makes an individual unfit to vote? The electorate is composed of all sorts of people who have committed all sorts of crimes along the way and gotten away with it. Do we question their right to vote? No.

So the removal of voting rights due to a felony conviction necessarily becomes arbitrary. And that is something I could never support.

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As much as Dick Cheney. tblue Nov 2013 #1
War on drugs get the red out Nov 2013 #2
What's interesting about this poll is do you imagine the people in jail to be guilty of crimes? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #3
good for you! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #4
And I heard on a podcast that MANY people plead guilty tblue Nov 2013 #11
But that's the other side - how many people? If 95% of our criminals are convicted rightfully el_bryanto Nov 2013 #13
Very true especially in the federal system. MindPilot Nov 2013 #22
Question: Should Republicans be allowed to disenfranchise all their political enemies Coyotl Nov 2013 #5
Absolutely. Being convicted doesn't strip away your citizenship. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #6
It does, however, strip away at least some of your civil rights. badtoworse Nov 2013 #17
They should be able to vote while in jail since they are counted as part of apportionment census. kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #7
yup gopiscrap Nov 2013 #9
There are already enough NIMBY problems with prisons and their surrounding communities, creating... JVS Nov 2013 #12
Yes. they paid their debt to society and all rights should be restored. William769 Nov 2013 #8
Depends on crime, sentence, and offices being elected. I don't have some kind of plan in mind,... JVS Nov 2013 #10
I've never seen the connection between conviction/incarceration and petronius Nov 2013 #14
Yes, once their debt to society is competely paid aka out of jail and off probation. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #15
Universal suffrage! Anything less is a pretence. retread Nov 2013 #16
I totally agree gopiscrap Nov 2013 #23
Let's assume for a second that every convicted felon actually did what they were convicted of... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #18
Voting is a fundamental right and I don't believe it should LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #19
To those voting "no" might I suggest you read the Declaration of Independance? ieoeja Nov 2013 #20
Yes, my son's godfather is in prison for murder ChazII Nov 2013 #21
wonder how many American lost their right to vote because of marijuana related felonies Zorra Nov 2013 #24
Of course; the right to vote is guaranteed to all in the Constitution. nt Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #25
yup, so that's why Idon't konw how they get away with it. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #29
Yes, but I would rather see Congress filled by sortition, ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #26
of course. the only crime one should lose citizenship for is treason Orangepeel Nov 2013 #27
this is about losing citizenship gopiscrap Nov 2013 #28
That was my point. Voting should be a fundamental right of citizenship. Orangepeel Nov 2013 #30
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