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pnwmom

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130. Then she is worried about prosecution, and she's at as much risk
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 02:13 AM
Nov 2013

in Germany's airport -- according to everything Wikileaks has already leaked about Germany -- as she is in the UK's.

If she were seriously, seriously concerned about persecution/prosecution/whatever, then Germany would not be a good place for a hideout.

Wow! Powerful read .Big K&R nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #1
For all the talk about protecting those who speak truth to power Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #2
You haven't followed Wikileaks work, have you? No one has been spared from Whistle Blowers sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #8
Crumbs compared to the scale of it there. Also, why aren't Greenwald, Snowden and Assange stevenleser Nov 2013 #9
BS, they publish what they get from Whistle Blowers, they can't manufacture what they sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #21
Grantcart did the research and called BS on your links downthread. They arent interested in stevenleser Nov 2013 #72
You have demonstrated beyond doubt how little you know about Wikileaks. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #73
This hearsay you are pushing doesn't amount to anything. I noticed you provide no links stevenleser Nov 2013 #74
Their agenda has always been clear. Did you think they were hiding it? Again demonstrating sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #78
Again, your contentions mean nothing. Provide links to back you up or it means nothing. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #88
Clearly you are unable to back up your claims. That was obvious to me from the sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #94
The claims are yours to back up. I don't have to prove a negative. stevenleser Nov 2013 #96
Again, you have failed to back up your claims and are veering off into sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #101
On DU, it is widely accepted that one does not need to prove a negative. You need to prove your stevenleser Nov 2013 #104
You made the claim that Wikileaks is not 'covering all the corruption in Russia'. I corrected sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #127
Both your links were from late 2010. Denzil_DC Nov 2013 #147
What does that have to do with the false info provided here as to the sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #152
This is a whole lot of verbage to fail to answer a simple question. Denzil_DC Nov 2013 #159
"anti-US agenda" YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #108
I didn't say "The US". I said "anti-US agenda" nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #111
You surely are aware that Wikileaks was accused of being PRO US because they sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #129
As if you would take that chance. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #40
Of course I would and do. I attack Russia and Putin all the time. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #71
And you would have us believe that Russia Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #76
The US has prevented Wikileaks from releasing anything from Russia or anywhere sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #81
You don't even know how ridiculous that sounds. Wikileaks is an international organization stevenleser Nov 2013 #89
Their agenda is clear and has never been hidden. What a ridiculous thing to say. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #97
Their agenda is to attack the US. That is clear, definitely. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #98
If releasing Whistle Blower material is 'attacking' a country, then they have 'attacked' sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #123
If you don't want to talk about the comparison, don't bring it up. stevenleser Nov 2013 #87
Well, if you are such a big man, you should get on it! Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #95
Not my interest. I don't have to live up to someone else's failed tag line. stevenleser Nov 2013 #100
And Greenwald's interest for many years has been the US surveillance Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #134
+1 YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #107
I was very intersted in your links. grantcart Nov 2013 #61
Have you read any of the Wikileaks cables? Apparently not. Russia wasn't happy sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #75
You seem to miss the point. grantcart Nov 2013 #80
I am missing nothing. I have been aware of and followed Wikileaks and other New Media sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #83
That person always misses points that don't go along with her agenda stevenleser Nov 2013 #93
Here's an interesting theory. MADem Nov 2013 #144
One day, when Mr. Foust learns how to cry on cue, he'll Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #145
Since Tiananmen Square occurred 17 years before Wikileaks was founded, it's a bit of a stretch struggle4progress Nov 2013 #85
Unbelievable how little some people know of the history of this New Media. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #90
Sadly, my experience conversing with you frequently suggests you simply invent your claims, struggle4progress Nov 2013 #110
Anyone who starts right out with a personal insult, doesn't get much credibility from sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #156
Once again, nary a link from you to support the claims you make with apparent certainty struggle4progress Nov 2013 #158
Putin gets brownie points with his political base by giving a neener-neener to the U.S. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #20
... SidDithers Nov 2013 #3
Exile? Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #4
I was about to ask that, too Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #6
Also from Wikipedia: Exile can also be a self-imposed departure from one's homeland. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #23
She is from England. Her lawyer has advised her not to return at this time. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #11
Still not 'exile' Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #19
Your truncated snip for Wikipedia is laughable. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #24
So how do you define exile? Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #34
Keep laughing: From the Oxford dictionary: Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #37
BWHAHAHA!! Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #38
You really must think that DUers are stupid. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #39
Oh I almost forgot: Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #36
I will miss your salience reddread Nov 2013 #62
You're leaving? Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #64
Way to add something intelligent to the conversation! nt Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #91
Any time is a good time for a 'fuck Ron Paul' post Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #99
And his spawn! flamingdem Nov 2013 #118
It is the heighth of engaging discourse. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #136
LOL Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #153
If she fears prosecution, then that is absolutely a form of exile. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #139
living abroad as an ex-pat is not 'exile' nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #5
Fearless, are you? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #10
I once spent 20 nights in Europe. Criticized Bush while there. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #12
You criticized him? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #13
So, you were worried that Bush would prosecute you, eh? Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #14
No, I was under no threat at all. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #15
You are RobertEarl Nov 2013 #16
No, I'd oppose prosecuting wikileaks. Would set a horrible precedent. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17
Eh? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #18
Have you read about what is going on in England right now? Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #22
What's going on in England is that Miranda (who was released after 9 hours geek tragedy Nov 2013 #25
The Security Service advised the police to detain Miranda based on their assessment that he may have Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #26
Well, any self-respecting journalist should be leery of British airports. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #27
Self-imposed exile to avoid persecution is exile. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #29
No it's not, especially when that persecution is purely speculative. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #30
From the Oxford dictionary: Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #35
So, there's no difference between exiles and ex-pats? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #53
Oxford dictionary says that "exile" is an archaic definition of expatriot. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #57
Expat on Main Street doesn't have the same oomph nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #59
Since when has David Miranda been "she"? struggle4progress Nov 2013 #32
The she is Sarah Harrison. The topic of the OP. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #33
Ah. Your #22 didn't mention Sarah directly, and I had to do my best to decipher the pronoun struggle4progress Nov 2013 #44
It is well advised she stay away from Britain and the United States davidn3600 Nov 2013 #56
Exactly. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #67
"Snowden is currently safe in Russia . . ." Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #7
would you send Al Gore into exile as well? reddread Nov 2013 #63
Sarah Harrison has a bad habit of misrepresenting facts: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #28
those pesky facts. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #31
Surprise surprise.... Sarah Harrison and I agree with her interpretation of the facts... Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #41
Nope: there's nothing in my #28 about anybody's drug use. struggle4progress Nov 2013 #42
She is under no more danger of persecution than Julian or Eddie treestar Nov 2013 #43
Folks have a rough life, living out there in Crazy Camp struggle4progress Nov 2013 #45
Really. Edward will not be arrested or prosecuted? Julian assanges is free to travel to the Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #46
No they are avoiding trials in countries treestar Nov 2013 #47
Amazing how many people do not know the meanings of words these days. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #50
the meaning of persecution treestar Nov 2013 #149
"Western countries with standards" YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #103
Check out the legal system in Saudi Arabia or any middle eastern country treestar Nov 2013 #148
Persecute struggle4progress Nov 2013 #48
What is it with people who glean only the most advantagous part of a definition and think we are too Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #58
Well, Snowden has said since June he's a victim of persecution, but the facts suggest otherwise struggle4progress Nov 2013 #66
No he hasn't. In June he made the claim that he would be persecuted Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #77
Statelessness is governed by the 1961 convention, which nowhere regards a valid passport struggle4progress Nov 2013 #122
He defined his statelessness using international standards. Which I provided to you. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #125
You merely provided a link to a Wikipedia article, which traces back to a record struggle4progress Nov 2013 #140
Yes. It was a discussion and a very interesting one at that but Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #141
Prosecute struggle4progress Nov 2013 #49
Yes dear, I know the difference. He is being persecuted with the prospect of prosecution. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #52
See #66 struggle4progress Nov 2013 #68
Examples of correct uses of "prosecute": struggle4progress Nov 2013 #51
What the fuck are you going on about? I understand the difference between the two and I used them Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #54
See #66 struggle4progress Nov 2013 #69
No, you clearly dont understand the difference. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #102
Clearly, I do. Snowden is being persecuted for escaping probable prosecution. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #106
Clearly, you don't. If that fit, any criminal fleeing prosecution could claim it. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #112
If what fit? What? You've just wandered off the farm... Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #117
That's not persecution. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #150
Sure it is. Just like Ariel Castro was persecuted. randome Nov 2013 #155
Perhaps you should save the English lectures Union Scribe Nov 2013 #142
Meh. Periods are irritating little buggers. One ought to leave them out unless they're necessary struggle4progress Nov 2013 #143
Examples of correct uses of "persecute" struggle4progress Nov 2013 #55
Snowden is being persecuted with the threat of prosecution. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #60
See #66 struggle4progress Nov 2013 #70
K&R bobduca Nov 2013 #65
HUGE K&R Powerful and important statement that needs to be seen by everyone. woo me with science Nov 2013 #79
Nowhere in that long, long letter does it say she's in exile. pnwmom Nov 2013 #82
Does she have an editor? Maybe HE'S in exile. randome Nov 2013 #84
To fly to a foreign country in order to reside there to escape persecution Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #92
But she's not there to escape persecution because if the UK asked for her, pnwmom Nov 2013 #109
Not prosecution but rather persecution and on the advice of her Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #114
If her lawyer were advising her to stay out of the UK for legal reasons, pnwmom Nov 2013 #116
There is no such thing as an extradition treaty for the purpose of allowing a Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #120
An attorney wouldn't be advising her about "persecution." pnwmom Nov 2013 #126
Um. Yes and attorney would. An attorney would advise staying clear Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #128
Then she is worried about prosecution, and she's at as much risk pnwmom Nov 2013 #130
Keep beating that horse. Others who work with wikileaks and Snowden have taken Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #131
"Taken refuge in Berlin." These people are into high drama. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #133
Really, Laura Poitras has been interrogated dozens of times and her Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #135
I wouldn't feel safe in Berlin of all places. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #137
I respect your opinion but 2 regularly persecuted U.S. citizens Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #138
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #86
What happens to Snowden when he breaks a Russian law? Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #105
yeah tech support for a website requires so many criminal acts! n/t bobduca Nov 2013 #113
I was thinking of the hookers he is hanging around with Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #115
Oooh. New stupid smear. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #124
Smear merchants bobduca Nov 2013 #151
He ditched his beautiful fiance and had no friends in the U.S. randome Nov 2013 #146
On the left, and on the right Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #157
It reminds me of running away from home when one is a child flamingdem Nov 2013 #119
Im sure they will support her especially after the revelations the NSA taps Merkel's phone davidn3600 Nov 2013 #132
Doesn't she realize that if governments were transparent, everyone would plainly see that Zorra Nov 2013 #121
oh the melodrama. dionysus Nov 2013 #154
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