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undeterred

(34,658 posts)
17. Dead Man Walking
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:14 PM
Nov 2013

changed my mind and heart on this subject. Thanks to Sister Helen Prejean for writing this book and for those who made it into a film.

never ever. cali Nov 2013 #1
that was my take also gopiscrap Nov 2013 #2
Never. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #3
I've always been opposed. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #4
That surprises me actually. I would assume that state did. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #9
Our constitution is very progressive. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #10
Cool, thanks for the information!! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #13
Never, Ever. There are seconds when I feel some horrible person should die but then I know there... BlueJazz Nov 2013 #5
am·biv·a·lent GeorgeGist Nov 2013 #6
Against it. I will admit to wanting it, or thinking someone deserves it, or hoping for some kind of Brickbat Nov 2013 #7
No liberal should ever be for this. Disgusting. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #8
Exactly Major Nikon Nov 2013 #27
It should be rare. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #11
"certainty of agency" meaning what? n-t Logical Nov 2013 #14
Beyond all doubt - not just reasonable doubt. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #16
Wow, here we go again...... Logical Nov 2013 #21
yes, we've had this same conversation and it ended the same way. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #23
Your theory is silly. "If you are really really super duper sure, lets kill him". LOL. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #24
Here's how I see it Major Nikon Nov 2013 #41
Great point! +1000! nt Logical Nov 2013 #59
So how do you define that legally? Major Nikon Nov 2013 #28
With words. The same way we do other levels of confidence of evidence aikoaiko Nov 2013 #34
The words for that are "beyond a shadow of a doubt" Major Nikon Nov 2013 #35
Not impossible. But that's why the DP lshould be rare. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #36
All I got was abstract rhetoric Major Nikon Nov 2013 #37
"Widely considered" pipoman Nov 2013 #44
It doesn't mean the outlier is remotely pragmatic either Major Nikon Nov 2013 #47
Burden of proof IS an abstract concept. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #55
It is anything but Major Nikon Nov 2013 #63
What is the physical or concrete form of beyond reasonable doubt? aikoaiko Nov 2013 #64
Your question makes no sense Major Nikon Nov 2013 #65
I think we disagree on the meaning of some key words here, so... aikoaiko Nov 2013 #66
On that I can agree Major Nikon Nov 2013 #68
You sum up my former logic... sarisataka Nov 2013 #58
Truth be told -- I'm fine with my state or the US banning the DP aikoaiko Nov 2013 #61
Certain crimes are heinous enough to make me hesitate for a second. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #69
No DP, no exceptions, is my position petronius Nov 2013 #12
Exactly gopiscrap Nov 2013 #50
Very mixed feelings on this pipi_k Nov 2013 #15
Appeals to emotion work both ways Major Nikon Nov 2013 #29
I'm not pipi_k Nov 2013 #42
That's the way it is for most people Major Nikon Nov 2013 #46
One of the strangest pipi_k Nov 2013 #49
I agree Major Nikon Nov 2013 #62
IIRC that's what Matthew Shepard's parents did RE: his killers. Argued for life in prison nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #71
I don't judge them either. But it's with very good reason that we don't let them determine nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #70
Dead Man Walking undeterred Nov 2013 #17
Personally, I'm against it. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #18
Ummm... caraher Nov 2013 #19
Never. Killing is wrong, I don't care why. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #20
Morally, eh. But practically, no. sir pball Nov 2013 #22
I see it the same as you XRubicon Nov 2013 #67
Never LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #25
For crimes of horror or terror Demeter Nov 2013 #26
Never. Two wrongs never make a right. Live and Learn Nov 2013 #30
Most people should have learned that lesson in grammar school Major Nikon Nov 2013 #31
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #32
+1 gollygee Nov 2013 #39
I fully agree gopiscrap Nov 2013 #52
Never. defacto7 Nov 2013 #33
No country that's remotely civilized does Major Nikon Nov 2013 #40
Never. Iggo Nov 2013 #38
Only for violent crimes against children. eom. Bad Thoughts Nov 2013 #43
Even in those cases, surely life without parole is better. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #48
Reforming criminal justice is something that should happen anyway Bad Thoughts Nov 2013 #54
Mixed feelings Calista241 Nov 2013 #45
Never for me. But I know a significant minority of Democrats are in favor just like your experience stevenleser Nov 2013 #51
I've always thought the discussion regarding DP in Judaism were worthwhile to read stevenleser Nov 2013 #53
People like Joseph Paul Franklin is why I support the Death Penalty, and always will. MicaelS Nov 2013 #56
The guy's going to spend the rest of his life in prison no matter what. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #72
Some folks just need to go away... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #57
Never. idwiyo Nov 2013 #60
My gut says "never," but the Constitution says it's permissible for treason. Laelth Nov 2013 #73
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