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Egalitarian Thug

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47. Both better and worse of course, but from a historical perspective the last half
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:43 PM
Nov 2013

century has become worse for more Americans. Picking 1963 is a good choice as it was a decisive year in the turmoil that was growing due to rising tensions amongst a wide range of factions.

It is far better today if you are gay, it is far better if you are a woman, it is worse for all men that don't belong to the parasite class, worse still if you are a man other than white, and much, much worse if you are a kid. Health care is better, if you have access to it, but it is much worse overall for most people since it has been converted from a social responsibility into a salable commodity owned by the parasite class.

Life is much worse for the people that built this nation through hard work, innovation, tenacity, and skilled labor as all of these assets have virtually no value any longer.

And perhaps the biggest, and most destructive change has been the perversion of the American mind. The foundations of what being an American meant 50 years ago have all but disappeared.

We are much, much less thoughtful and meaner than we once were, and while there have always been those with little or no education, today we have something approaching a majority of complete ignoramuses that believe they are educated and possess an understanding of the workings or the world that they, in fact, utterly lack. We have accepted a complete, media created fantasy as reality and have become so ignorant of reality that when the fantasy fails (because it is a fantasy, duh), we are at a loss to understand why it failed.

50 years ago America was a nation coming into a time of change and the accompanying turmoil with a strong trajectory toward being better. Today America is a nation in a time of change and the accompanying turmoil with a strong trajectory toward getting worse.

Not voting-the answer is too complex for a poll TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #1
Correct! Everything is relative. Depends on who you are, where you were, what race, what gender et kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #35
1963 still had both the New Deal and social regimentation in place Warpy Nov 2013 #2
Socially, we have progressed. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #3
Thanks, you've summed up my thoughts quite accurately. Scuba Nov 2013 #17
After TMI, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #25
Sadly, I can't disagree. Scuba Nov 2013 #26
K was 19 in 1963. enough Nov 2013 #4
Although we don't have all the gadgets and electronic devices we do today, Cleita Nov 2013 #5
People lacked a lot of civil rights in 1963 gollygee Nov 2013 #6
Definitely, many often now seem to have the attitude you can't fight the system. Also, for example, RKP5637 Nov 2013 #27
It's pretty obvious how minorities or gays would vote in this poll. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #7
Women too gollygee Nov 2013 #8
Quite possibly the first time I've agreed with you. On anything. Number23 Nov 2013 #66
Better for whom and how? Worse for whom and how? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #9
50 yrs ago my 6 yr old brother almost died KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #10
I remember in about 65 my local small town newspaper carrying a headline news story that the local Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #11
technology KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #59
frankly it does both. Working in the healthcare field - there is no doubt whatsoever that the Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #62
It was worse LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #12
Pre-Roe vs. Wade must have sucked as well Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #13
I wish more young women realized this OldHippieChick Nov 2013 #44
We've gone forward socially but dropped back economically. Kablooie Nov 2013 #14
I think the economics are pretty social, too FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #56
There was a whole lot of racial problems that have been mainstreamed and then WCGreen Nov 2013 #15
well I can't disagree with that. Even many of the social programs that lift people out of poverty Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #34
My sister owes close to 100k in student loans. WCGreen Nov 2013 #64
It was worse. Absolutely, without question, worse. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #16
definitely things are better now treestar Nov 2013 #18
the first woman became a Senator in 1922 hfojvt Nov 2013 #39
here is one thing we had back then - that we don't have today Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #19
and you could order all kinds of exciting stuff from comic book ads - Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #20
Are you a minority, a woman, and/or LGBTQ? Recursion Nov 2013 #21
The level of hate is lower, but the level of crazy is higher. reformist2 Nov 2013 #22
As one of my friends was saying, it's easier for the crazies to get the microphone and RKP5637 Nov 2013 #28
Straight white male says things were worse then Jim Lane Nov 2013 #23
The Golden Age Fallacy renie408 Nov 2013 #24
Definitely! I didn't think the world was that better then ... yep, it's not perfect now, but RKP5637 Nov 2013 #30
Archie Bunker - hell... dchill Nov 2013 #32
What America forgets to say when it boasts to other countries about how great RKP5637 Nov 2013 #38
I posted this on another thread this past weekend JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #29
did Coretta Scott King really think she was living in a hell hole? hfojvt Nov 2013 #46
And my dad was born JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #48
what anger? hfojvt Nov 2013 #49
It just kind of came across JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #51
Perfect post, JAG. And it ties in perfectly with what we've been discussing in the AA forum, huh? Number23 Nov 2013 #63
The good old days don't... dchill Nov 2013 #31
Maybe on a national level, they don't Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #60
Hugely worse for women! Freddie Nov 2013 #33
This is a very tough question. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #36
It was the dark ages so far as my own medical care has gone. hunter Nov 2013 #37
No one has mentioned something that has greatly improved many people's lives since 1963... raccoon Nov 2013 #40
and remote controls for the television Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #41
That's probably why there was less obesity back then. nt raccoon Nov 2013 #45
I was two-years-old Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #42
It all depends on your race and economic status and your general health CK_John Nov 2013 #43
Both better and worse of course, but from a historical perspective the last half Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #47
It's been kind of a bell curve. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #50
Much depended on your race and your sex and sexual upaloopa Nov 2013 #52
Biggest change for the worse is the loss of economic power LittleBlue Nov 2013 #53
Collapse of the middle class zipplewrath Nov 2013 #54
I graduated from an excellent university with zero student loans. hunter Nov 2013 #58
Well, up to and including 11/21/63, it was good. Then it went all to Hell, and stayed. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #55
Better for some, worse for some Thirties Child Nov 2013 #57
worse. jim crow laws Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #61
So much was not talked about u4ic Nov 2013 #65
"The 'societal ills' that people bemoan about now were still there, just swept under the carpet raccoon Nov 2013 #67
Yep u4ic Nov 2013 #68
another kick Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #69
What were they saying on the internet about this topic in 1963? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #70
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