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43. It was a victory for Putin. Glad you agree.

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:53 AM

Nov 2013

And you even remembered! Many here remember Obama never tried diplomacy. The only thing on his table was bomb, bomb, bomb syria...

Russia stepped in with some diplomacy and behold... It worked! That problem went away.
Maybe we could try some diplomacy instead of drones on school kids, ya think?

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Will the cranks be ok if we add this Iran deal to "the list"? [View all] scheming daemons Nov 2013 OP

k&r.... spanone Nov 2013 #1

The list grows, in spite of gnashing of teeth JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #2

Yes indeed! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #81

I agree wholeheartedly madokie Nov 2013 #3

This is part of the pivot, imo. Laelth Nov 2013 #4

However this policy is also BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #14

Useful addition to this discussion. Thanks. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #16

Are you calling DUers who don't agree with you "cranks?" LWolf Nov 2013 #5

I am calling people who deride the list of accomplishments cranks scheming daemons Nov 2013 #6

You are deriding DUers who disagree with you about that list, LWolf Nov 2013 #7

Pretty much. theaocp Nov 2013 #9

Do you agree that this is a MAJOR accomplishment or not? tridim Nov 2013 #10

it is another in the list... therefore they will minimize it scheming daemons Nov 2013 #11

How could "they" minimize it? Bradical79 Nov 2013 #17

See your post #10. nt tridim Nov 2013 #21

That's 100% dependant on what happens over the next several months -nt Bradical79 Nov 2013 #13

Yes, I'm sure the GOP will have lots of negative things to say about it in the next several months. tridim Nov 2013 #18

I just dont like your approach in particular Bradical79 Nov 2013 #68

Sadly this major accomplishment is overshadowed in this thread by divisiveness. It seems important rhett o rick Nov 2013 #118

Neither. LWolf Nov 2013 #94

At last I found the term that describes what you do. It's called JAQing off. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #117

But in this case it's tit for tat treestar Nov 2013 #85

Nope. LWolf Nov 2013 #92

Where's the list? -nt Bradical79 Nov 2013 #12

do a little search on DU, every time a list of accomplishments arrives..the crap throwers do too. Sheepshank Nov 2013 #15

OK, found a list Bradical79 Nov 2013 #27

No. He cannot. The cranks are always confrontational. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #78

Safe to say if McCain won in 2008 we'd be in our 5th year of war with Iran. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #8

If Romney had won, It would have been Russia... Heather MC Nov 2013 #30

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. trishtrash Nov 2013 #35

We'd be in our fifth year of war - in FIVE Middle Eastern countries! calimary Nov 2013 #49

McCain is rightfully pissed at the Vietcong. tblue Nov 2013 #66

is it not possible to like some of the things he has done like this Iran deal but not like some of Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #19

Let me guess, you don't like how he passed Chained CPI? tridim Nov 2013 #23

I do like how progressives spoke up with such a lound voice that we stopped chained CPI Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #47

Delusional... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2013 #70

you just don't understand politics at all. There has been huge push from the sensible center to Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #76

You have no idea what you're talking about Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #83

I and almost everyone here are very happy that an agreement has been reached with Iran Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #86

Nice reply Doug PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #99

Thank You!! God, I don't know whether to laugh or weep at the competing delusions of victimhood Number23 Nov 2013 #114

There you go again, asking a question in lieu of making a statement. Speak out rhett o rick Nov 2013 #120

Well it is on the list so everything should be great now. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #20

Yep, that's the kind of stupid respose the OP is talking about. nt tridim Nov 2013 #24

Funny how they turn into John Bolton if that's what it takes to trash the President nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #26

Actually the OP said crank MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #46

Stop creating problems. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #88

People such as me? MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #115

Oooh, a Neville Chamberlain reference. If haters can't bash him from the left, bash him from the geek tragedy Nov 2013 #25

Better Believe It Cirque du So-What Nov 2013 #22

Crank Here - CIA Drones - NSA Domestic Surveillance - Wall Street - Economy - TPP cantbeserious Nov 2013 #28

Tharr-r-r-r-r she blows!!!!!!! Sheepshank Nov 2013 #36

Another crank here. RC Nov 2013 #39

That's the second time you've posted that deranged lie about the Syria deal. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #72

My glow about Obama started fading a few months into his first term. RC Nov 2013 #95

Again, you repeat the lie that Putin stepped in with a diplomatic solution. Stop lying. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #100

Lies indeed. RC Nov 2013 #103

Citing inaccurate and misleading pieces just proves you know you're bullshitting, geek tragedy Nov 2013 #104

If Obama walked on water. I'd know it had been setup beforehand. RC Nov 2013 #107

"there was no prior discussion" another lie from you. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #109

I'll have a detailed post on finance, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #111

pretty clear that both Putin and Obama had a lot to lose wrt a bombing campaign nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #112

Calling someone a liar because they disagree isnt very liberal. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #121

This isn't a matter of disagreement. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #123

Wudevva doooood. 99Forever Nov 2013 #29

this crank will gladly add it to the pro column with much glee stupidicus Nov 2013 #31

"transforms the lesser evil/s into good " zeemike Nov 2013 #45

that's been observation in my relatively short experience here stupidicus Nov 2013 #80

Well they are not in the majority here zeemike Nov 2013 #89

yep, I think you're so right about that dude stupidicus Nov 2013 #130

Well said, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #32

It is a little too early. former9thward Nov 2013 #33

If one side breaks with the accord who is to blame? Sheepshank Nov 2013 #37

All true IF you believe both sides are negotiating in good faith. former9thward Nov 2013 #40

What do you suppose is the outcome for failure to abide by the accord? Sheepshank Nov 2013 #42

There were six global powers involved here. former9thward Nov 2013 #48

haa haa way to deflect from the critism that negotiations are a waste of time and effort. Not. n/t Sheepshank Nov 2013 #108

I never said they were a waste of time and effort. former9thward Nov 2013 #110

You're accusing people of binary thinking while doing it yourself. Marr Nov 2013 #34

Heck, they were calling for Kerry to resign two months ago,. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #38

It was a victory for Putin. Glad you agree. RC Nov 2013 #43

the threats worked arely staircase Nov 2013 #57

No, it is not that simple. RC Nov 2013 #59

like there would have been a deal without the threats arely staircase Nov 2013 #60

That is not such a great argument to make because threats of military action to extract a political Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #61

In the academic, lecture circuit version of reality yes some consider it a war crime. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #65

It is a war crime under international law, not 'sort of academically' but as a matter of legal fact Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #93

+1 dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #125

Love how you state it's a "legal fact" instead of citing any law or actual facts ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2013 #127

Superb post. woo me with science Nov 2013 #128

got rid of Assad's poison gas factories so I'm cool with it. arely staircase Nov 2013 #67

That rhetorical use of the suffering of others as if they existed for such use is creepy stuff. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #87

gassing kids is creepy stuff arely staircase Nov 2013 #91

This tina tron Nov 2013 #97

If Putin had not stepped in, Obama would have started bombing Syria. RC Nov 2013 #63

Assad certainly seemed to think so. nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #64

Again, stop peddling your dishonest lies about heroic, peaceloving Putin geek tragedy Nov 2013 #73

I do not disagree with your account. I know it is false as a matter of fact rather than opinion. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #62

right? arely staircase Nov 2013 #56

Some of them are still claiming the Syria deal was a last second breakthrough geek tragedy Nov 2013 #75

right here in this thread arely staircase Nov 2013 #77

I've posted the facts in response, I expect crickets in return. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #79

It's fair weather. They'll be friendly. nt gulliver Nov 2013 #41

And such small portions! OilemFirchen Nov 2013 #44

Oh goody. Name calling! progressoid Nov 2013 #50

~~ Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #53

a global academy award for directing the final act in the kabuki theatre that spuriously KG Nov 2013 #51

it's just like Bush got a third and fourth term arely staircase Nov 2013 #52

All well and good, but.......... George II Nov 2013 #54

I'm not sure the world would agree with you. Our reputation has been tarnished by Obama's drone liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #55

Ha, they are all out in force complaining about a peace deal. Add this to the top of the list!!!! Pisces Nov 2013 #58

Use blue links. That really enrages them. n/t FSogol Nov 2013 #69

They really do see red at the blue links. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #90

The color blue gives some people the blues. They should change their default colors. freshwest Nov 2013 #126

a lot of people are happy about this deal Enrique Nov 2013 #71

Wow, so eager to exploit news of diplomatic progress to create domestic divisions. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #74

Oh that evil list! treestar Nov 2013 #82

Why on earth are you trying to create ill will and division? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #84

Very good question. nt Union Scribe Nov 2013 #101

DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #96

They will NEVER be satisfied. There is still imaginary betrayal of Social Security bluestate10 Nov 2013 #98

Nasty thread. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #102

This is GD - nasty is normal ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #105

MUST...TURN....GOOD....NEWS....INTO....DU....DRAAAAAAHHHHMMMAAAAAAA!!!11!!!!!!1111!!!!!! last1standing Nov 2013 #106

K&R Though it seems a HELL of a lot of folks doing all that "deriding" have been shown the door Number23 Nov 2013 #113

How sad that we cant celebrate this great event without trying to use it as a bludgeon rhett o rick Nov 2013 #116

Exactly. 99Forever Nov 2013 #122

Lilly Ledbetter ! ! ! 1 ! ! 1 ! rug Nov 2013 #119

First off, I'd rather have Obama in the WH than Romney/McCain of course. Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #124

Sure! Just keep doing what we tell ya;) grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #129

LOL Scurrilous Nov 2013 #131