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Response to Beacool (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 12:39 PM

13. This is a HUGELY important point to keep in mind!!!

I think about this particular dynamic every time I hear somebody rhapsodizing about how reagan saved the world and reagan brought down the Berlin Wall and reagan ended Communism and reagan ended the Soviet Union.

Well... not so fast. reagan could not have done ANYTHING OF THE SORT, were it not for some guy named Gorbachev on the other end. Were it not for some dude named John Paul II drilling holes in the underpinnings all over the Eastern Bloc. Were it not for some guy named Lech Walesa softening up the ground in Poland. If THOSE players had not been in place, none of the rest of it would have happened. I liken it to a sports team. If all you have is a strong pitcher, you're not apt to win the baseball game. You need a great catcher, a great first baseman, solid coverage on the other bases and in the outfield, and some reliable power hitters. I give a HUGE amount of credit to Mikhail Gorbachev. If reagan had been stuck with Brezhnev or Chernyenko or more of the "old guard" in the Kremlin to deal with, and not Gorbachev - with his different world view and his feet firmly planted in the modern era and reality, who started opening the windows in that stale Moscow power center and letting the fresh air in - NOTHING would have happened.

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