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76. There is scientifically sound evidence that has been confirmed and reconfirmed many times

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 01:52 PM

Nov 2013

that Oswald was the shooter using the rifle he purchased. And that only bullets from that rifle hit Kennedy and Connally. As to a wider conspiracy, if it existed it was hidden better than any conspiracy we will ever know, which is another way of saying it is very very very unlikely based on current information. As to government secrecy and how it relates to all this. The JFK assassination has been used to press for less secrecy, I am ok with that. What I am not really ok with is the lies that have been foisted on us. I was in maybe 5th or 6th grade when I read my first book on the assassination. It was of course a CT book. It fucked up my understanding of the facts for a couple of decades. It turns out the Warren Commission had the science right all along.

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One last JFK poll just to prove or disprove a theory I have. [View all] Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 OP

Remember, we were alive -- even as kids -- to see the subsequent assassinations villager Nov 2013 #1

Yes. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #2

+1, and amen! villager Nov 2013 #3

Awesome post. I'd rather reply to it here, than in the other thread. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #8

...we'll never know the truth now..... RobertEarl Nov 2013 #25

Indeed. We needed a fair and open trial for Oswald. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #28

I've never for one moment believed Oswald acted alone spiderpig Nov 2013 #31

Touche! Carolina Nov 2013 #69

Bingo! spiderpig Nov 2013 #85

Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence but three times is enemy action Mr Bond -Auric Goldfinger Fumesucker Nov 2013 #6

Ha, my favorite Bond film. :) Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #7

"No Mr. Bond - I expect you to die" spiderpig Nov 2013 #32

And we were also alive to ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #33

I suspect that a majority of people who aren't old enough to remember... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #4

They don't seem to be weighing in much, though. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #5

surprising that there are so few young people responding hfojvt Nov 2013 #9

That's why I separated the "older folk" into two categories, Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #11

I was pre-school but I still remember hearing about Kennedy's assassination Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #64

It's not exactly relevant to us, is my stand Scootaloo Nov 2013 #78

Yeah that category treestar Nov 2013 #96

It isn't "dubious." It is FACT. duffyduff Nov 2013 #19

I also knew it was total crap before the Oliver Stone movie. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #34

Exactly. Most people who were around then who were old enough are dead. duffyduff Nov 2013 #18

I cannot imagine anyone 9 yrs old that day Awknid Nov 2013 #83

No. The public has viewed it through a lens of conspiracy for precisely 50 years and one day. nt DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #51

Whether Stone made the film or not, the public discourse has not been presented but authentically ancianita Nov 2013 #99

Greatest Page for you, my dear Blue, and your important poll! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #10

I was only 7 years old when Ruby murdered Oswald live on tv. I saw it, and that is why . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #12

I was a bit older than you, almost nine years old. duffyduff Nov 2013 #17

My family never talked about politics. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #26

My parents argued all the time about politics, mostly because my dad wanted to duffyduff Nov 2013 #36

Amen oswaldactedalone Nov 2013 #59

RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE! citizenbfk Nov 2013 #13

This week brought a new convert to the Conspiracy Theory fold. TalkingDog Nov 2013 #14

Mel and Norma Gabler did it. I knew it. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #16

A little levity. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #21

Not true. I was around then. I don't believe any conspiracy at all. duffyduff Nov 2013 #15

I think DU is very representative Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #20

DU is very representative, and some people feel better when they invent their facts. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #22

I don't see it as inventing facts. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #27

My father said that Edgar hoover had JFK killed Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #23

Interesting theory. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #24

I was 20 living in south Texas at the time zeemike Nov 2013 #29

Great Poll, Blue !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #30

Kick, I'd like to see more young votes! Agschmid Nov 2013 #35

Added my youngish vote. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #37

Thanks! Agschmid Nov 2013 #40

Yes, please, more young people Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #38

For me it is. Agschmid Nov 2013 #39

Which I might agree with except for all the weirdness in Oswald's background Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #41

Exactly. For a 24 year old, he sure had a alsame Nov 2013 #42

I think people tend to forget just how young he was. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #43

I do see some issues with that... Agschmid Nov 2013 #44

Jack Ruby was tied to the mob. The thinking is that he was hired to kill Oswald. Awknid Nov 2013 #86

As someone who was born almost 20 years after JFK's tragic and untimely death RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2013 #45

Giving this a kick before I shut down the ol' laptop. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #46

You're probably right about that. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #47

Yes, they are. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #48

I'm logged in, but can't vote. (why?) I think Oswald was a patsy..... n/t AnotherDreamWeaver Nov 2013 #49

And if I may ask your age group? Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #50

63 and older... (I don't know why I can't vote, and I can't recommend either.) AnotherDreamWeaver Nov 2013 #54

How about: I'm 62 and was there in Dallas and still don't know. El Supremo Nov 2013 #52

You may be right BainsBane Nov 2013 #53

I think the American public has a fascination with murders and crime. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #56

Because it is personal. I was a small boy, that was the day I learned this fact: Dads can die. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #70

Great post! Yes, for those of us who were old enough to be aware of the JFK assassination scarletwoman Nov 2013 #71

The subsequent assassinations proved only that the right wing is the violent wing, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #55

That makes sense. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #57

Hypothesis Android3.14 Nov 2013 #58

Word Nazi? Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #60

Nope. I just love language Android3.14 Nov 2013 #62

Wow, the DU has really been a huge disappointment on this. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #61

How so? Are you really surprised? scarletwoman Nov 2013 #67

I'm actually a little surprised. DanTex Nov 2013 #72

It's not about being "better informed" - DUers are plenty well-informed. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #74

They are clearly not well-informed about the JFK assassination. DanTex Nov 2013 #75

It is what it is. There have been dozens (hundreds?) of posts by DUers over the past week explaining scarletwoman Nov 2013 #79

There is scientifically sound evidence that has been confirmed and reconfirmed many times BootinUp Nov 2013 #76

So, did you vote in the poll? scarletwoman Nov 2013 #81

No I didn't. for the record BootinUp Nov 2013 #82

I.e., given enough time, secrecy & propaganda work? snot Nov 2013 #63

Sunday morning kick - anybody up and online? scarletwoman Nov 2013 #65

Age 56 and not certain; therefore, ambivalent Martin Eden Nov 2013 #66

That makes sense. I think it's an honest choice. (nt) scarletwoman Nov 2013 #68

I agree that makes sense. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #77

oct posted this great link questionseverything Nov 2013 #89

I became convinced of a conspiracy in '68, when they killed ML King & R Kennedy, CrispyQ Nov 2013 #73

I don't have a "theory". And the ballistics studies shown on this blog.... northoftheborder Nov 2013 #80

..... questionseverything Nov 2013 #91

from that link questionseverything Nov 2013 #92

Interesting age breakdown, eh? scarletwoman Nov 2013 #84

Blue_In_AK I wrote this on Friday: (I've no first-hand recollection of the assassination/ambivalent) Raine1967 Nov 2013 #87

Did Jackie Kennedy or Robert Kennedy or any other member IcyPeas Nov 2013 #88

Here is an interesting article from the Boston Globe on Bobby ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #93

Jackie.... northoftheborder Nov 2013 #94

I was 15 and in high school 50 years ago. SheilaT Nov 2013 #90

How many of them call themselves a patsy? zeemike Nov 2013 #95

Evening kick. scarletwoman Nov 2013 #97

I'm surprised by that, too. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #98

It doesn't surprise me at all BainsBane Nov 2013 #100

By the end of the decade.... ReRe Nov 2013 #101

Overall DU results are similar to national polls: alsame Nov 2013 #102