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Major Nikon

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41. There was more to it than that
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 09:14 PM
Nov 2013

You could just as easily say Ford and Poppa Bush gave us Saint Ronnie. In fact, I give them far more credit for undermining Carter's presidency. You can also thank Lee Atwater for the Southern Strategy.

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I don't think it was Iran's intention Turbineguy Nov 2013 #1
You sure? zbdent Nov 2013 #3
I meant when they took the hostages. Turbineguy Nov 2013 #11
So was I ... zbdent Nov 2013 #46
It's tricky to place blame, I admit. Laelth Nov 2013 #47
what goes around comes around... magical thyme Nov 2013 #2
This. Skidmore Nov 2013 #4
+1 JHB Nov 2013 #5
I think I covered our complicity in the OP. Laelth Nov 2013 #48
I still blame us. We had no business propping up the Shah. magical thyme Nov 2013 #50
Like you, I am quite glad their current administration decided to pursue peace. Laelth Nov 2013 #54
CIA loyalty questioned at the time... Octafish Nov 2013 #6
...35 years ago.... n/t TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #7
Thanks for the response. Laelth Nov 2013 #49
Well, I did leave quite a bit to be inferred TroglodyteScholar Nov 2013 #52
On the other hand, it is ironic that we are allied with the sponsors of Sunni terrorism FarCenter Nov 2013 #8
As far as responsibility for a terrible leader in the other's country NuclearDem Nov 2013 #9
I also don't see the reason for any hate towards Iran. polly7 Nov 2013 #16
Reagan returned the favor by serving up 240 Marines as sitting ducks for a truck bomb geek tragedy Nov 2013 #10
Iran's Islamic Revolution gave us Reagan. Iggo Nov 2013 #12
scary reminder of our past. Sheri Nov 2013 #13
"I blame Iran." That's just stupid. I blame the CIA. So there. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #14
Iran allied itself with the Republican Party in 1980/81. Laelth Nov 2013 #15
Blaming Iran for Reagan is like blaming Nader for Bush. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #17
Crabbed? Cool word. Laelth Nov 2013 #18
A lot of the mess that was Iran and the oil crisis at the time was set in place before Carter... cascadiance Nov 2013 #30
There was no world wide web in 1981. BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #19
Why did the CIA overthrow Iran's leftist prez? (Excuse my ignorance re this.) polichick Nov 2013 #20
He nationalized the oil industry. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #21
Quite true. Laelth Nov 2013 #22
Okay, you admit we overthrew their elected government for imperialist reasons... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #25
I said we installed the Shah in the OP. Laelth Nov 2013 #37
No coup, no revolution. No revolution, no hostage crisis. solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2013 #24
must see free HULU documentary will answer all questions solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #40
No wonder Eisenhower warned us about the mic... polichick Nov 2013 #45
Exactly .... tweeternik Nov 2013 #29
Gee, maybe we shouldn't have forcibly installed the former Shah. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #23
Carter deserves a lot of the blame for his handling of the mess. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #26
I don't recall thinking that at the time. Laelth Nov 2013 #35
And we gave them Shah Reza Scootaloo Nov 2013 #27
Why, thank you. Laelth Nov 2013 #36
Whatever. Your opinions lack the backing of fact Scootaloo Nov 2013 #38
You do know what the Shah was all about, don't you? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #42
OP US centric malletgirl02 Nov 2013 #43
It's hard to blame just one entity in this mess... Hell, we could perhaps blame BP the most! cascadiance Nov 2013 #28
That's an excellent post, and I am happy to let it stand without comment. Laelth Nov 2013 #57
And I want to add one more item that is positive for Iran's new generation. More educated women! cascadiance Nov 2013 #61
How many of the hostages did Iran kill?: zero cpwm17 Nov 2013 #31
Good post. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #32
Great post. Thanks. Laelth Nov 2013 #33
It was obvious to me from the very moment I started looking into it. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #34
remember: reagan sold arms illegally to iran and funneled the money to the contras spanone Nov 2013 #39
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #51
an act that would have a Democrat impeached & imprisoned. spanone Nov 2013 #56
There was more to it than that Major Nikon Nov 2013 #41
Could you elaborate on this part?: A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2013 #53
don't foget, that Reagan's staff stole stole the debate plan book from Carter gopiscrap Nov 2013 #55
i blame ted koppel + nightline. pansypoo53219 Nov 2013 #58
American addiction to fake cowboy machismo gave us both Iran and Reagan. Orsino Nov 2013 #59
Way too many generalizations... Xolodno Nov 2013 #60
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