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In reply to the discussion: JFK Conference: Mark Lane Addressed the Secret Government’s Role in the Assassination [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)135. That's Acquila Clemons, who said it Oswald did not shoot Officer Tippit
Acquilla Clemons: The black witness the Warren Commission ignored
by Adam Howard
The Grio | November 21, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly committed two murders on November 22, 1963 and while the first will forever make him infamous, it was the second that arguably helped convict him in the court of public opinion as the lone assassin of President John F. Kennedy.
SNIP...
How do we know Oswald killed President Kennedy? a legal aid to the Warren Commission once said. Because he killed Officer Tippit.
However, many key aspects of this story have always rung false, especially for those who suspect a conspiracy was behind the presidents death.
There are conflicting viewpoints about whether Tippit was shot with an automatic weapon or a revolver (which Oswald did have in his possession when he was taken into custody). The four bullets found in Tippits body were also a source of confusion. The lead officer on the scene of the Tippit shooting marked the shells with his initials before they were entered into evidence, yet the shells later produced by the FBI didnt have his demarcation on them. Others have simply questioned why Oswald would have even been roaming the streets of Dallas after having allegedly pulled off the murder a sitting president.
And although the Warren Commission interviewed 13 witnesses in connection to the Tippit murder, only two said they actually saw it take place. One, Domingo Benavides, could never positively identify Oswald as the shooter, and the other, Helen Markham, was inconsistent with her descriptions. She both described Oswald accurately (thin, balding) and inaccurately (pudgy with bushy hair.)
Yet there was one witness, with a clear view of Tippits shooting, who was startlingly consistent with her story. She also happened to be African-American. Her name was Acquilla Clemons and among conspiracy theorists her testimony is legendary because it was never formally taken.
She told investigators that she saw two men at the scene of the crime from her front porch. One had a pistol and was waving the other man away. The armed man was described by Clemons as chunky, short and kind of heavy and the other man was tall and thin, wearing a white shirt and khakis, neither of which matched Oswalds appearance on that fateful day.
Three of the bullets fired into Tippit were manufactured by one company (Winchester) but the fourth was made by another (Remington), an unusual occurrence which may support Clemons testimony that there were multiple shooters.
Later, Clemons claimed she received an intimidating visit from Dallas authorities warning her not to repeat what she saw.
Clemons later described the encounter in writer and investigator Mark Lanes seminal book Rush to Judgment, a bestseller which called the Warren Commissions conclusions into question:
Clemons was never called to tell her story before the Warren Commission, which refused to even acknowledge her existence in the numerous volumes of their final report. In fact their findings, which still stand as the official record, suggest there was only one female witness to the killing of J.D. Tippit.
There may be doubts about whether there was a conspiracy and whether of not Lee Harvey Oswald was involved, but we do know that Acquilla Clemons most certainly a living, breathing human being and her story deserve to heard and investigated.
CONTINUED...
http://thegrio.com/2013/11/21/acquilla-clemons-the-black-witness-the-warren-commission-ignored/
PS: You are most welcome, Holly_Hobby! Please know Your friendship means the world to me.
PPS: Here's another important witness who also went against the grain: Abraham Bolden. What does he know? He's only the first African American Secret Service agent -- personally selected by President Kennedy to serve on the White House detail.
by Adam Howard
The Grio | November 21, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly committed two murders on November 22, 1963 and while the first will forever make him infamous, it was the second that arguably helped convict him in the court of public opinion as the lone assassin of President John F. Kennedy.
SNIP...
How do we know Oswald killed President Kennedy? a legal aid to the Warren Commission once said. Because he killed Officer Tippit.
However, many key aspects of this story have always rung false, especially for those who suspect a conspiracy was behind the presidents death.
There are conflicting viewpoints about whether Tippit was shot with an automatic weapon or a revolver (which Oswald did have in his possession when he was taken into custody). The four bullets found in Tippits body were also a source of confusion. The lead officer on the scene of the Tippit shooting marked the shells with his initials before they were entered into evidence, yet the shells later produced by the FBI didnt have his demarcation on them. Others have simply questioned why Oswald would have even been roaming the streets of Dallas after having allegedly pulled off the murder a sitting president.
And although the Warren Commission interviewed 13 witnesses in connection to the Tippit murder, only two said they actually saw it take place. One, Domingo Benavides, could never positively identify Oswald as the shooter, and the other, Helen Markham, was inconsistent with her descriptions. She both described Oswald accurately (thin, balding) and inaccurately (pudgy with bushy hair.)
Yet there was one witness, with a clear view of Tippits shooting, who was startlingly consistent with her story. She also happened to be African-American. Her name was Acquilla Clemons and among conspiracy theorists her testimony is legendary because it was never formally taken.
She told investigators that she saw two men at the scene of the crime from her front porch. One had a pistol and was waving the other man away. The armed man was described by Clemons as chunky, short and kind of heavy and the other man was tall and thin, wearing a white shirt and khakis, neither of which matched Oswalds appearance on that fateful day.
Three of the bullets fired into Tippit were manufactured by one company (Winchester) but the fourth was made by another (Remington), an unusual occurrence which may support Clemons testimony that there were multiple shooters.
Later, Clemons claimed she received an intimidating visit from Dallas authorities warning her not to repeat what she saw.
Clemons later described the encounter in writer and investigator Mark Lanes seminal book Rush to Judgment, a bestseller which called the Warren Commissions conclusions into question:
Clemons: He looked like a policeman to me.
Lane: He did? Did he have a gun?
Clemons: Yes, he wore a gun.
Lane: And did he say anything to you?
Clemons: He just told me itd be best if I didnt say anything because I might get hurt.
Clemons was never called to tell her story before the Warren Commission, which refused to even acknowledge her existence in the numerous volumes of their final report. In fact their findings, which still stand as the official record, suggest there was only one female witness to the killing of J.D. Tippit.
There may be doubts about whether there was a conspiracy and whether of not Lee Harvey Oswald was involved, but we do know that Acquilla Clemons most certainly a living, breathing human being and her story deserve to heard and investigated.
CONTINUED...
http://thegrio.com/2013/11/21/acquilla-clemons-the-black-witness-the-warren-commission-ignored/
PS: You are most welcome, Holly_Hobby! Please know Your friendship means the world to me.
PPS: Here's another important witness who also went against the grain: Abraham Bolden. What does he know? He's only the first African American Secret Service agent -- personally selected by President Kennedy to serve on the White House detail.
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JFK Conference: Mark Lane Addressed the Secret Government’s Role in the Assassination [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2013
OP
I see. You're the type of person who argues that you can't prove George Washington really existed.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#69
More boring cut-n-paste from Octa who refuses to answer why they believe the HSCA
stopbush
Nov 2013
#98
Please look at YOUR post #7 in this thread: "CIA Director Bush helped destroy HSCA investigation."
stopbush
Nov 2013
#105
Blakey believes the mob was involved and will probably go to his grave believing that.
stopbush
Dec 2013
#172
Don't understand why certain DUers don't appreciate the BFEE connections to Dealey Plaza.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#106
Odd is how that same George HW Bush in Dallas Nov. 22, 1963 shows up to head CIA 12 years later.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#145
Like your exchange with Jim DiEugenio? You did all you could to drive him off.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#149
Speak plainly, sir. Are you accusing me of being here under false pretenses?
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#150
Or leave these foolish games and Meta distractions aside and start dealing with the evidence already
Octafish
Nov 2013
#151
No, I have not been 'payed' or paid to write about the assassination of President Kennedy.
Octafish
Dec 2013
#179
There's a good analysis of the Parrott memo in Russ Baker's book 'Family of Secrets'
Mc Mike
Dec 2013
#186
I'm sorry that you sometimes take so much flack and displays of antipathy for posting good info.
Mc Mike
Dec 2013
#190
The problem for them is that no matter how they try to discredit ANYONE who doesn't march in
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#53
journal.. feh. you're no REAL journalist man... you've never even been in a shootout!!1111
dionysus
Nov 2013
#57
E. Hunt was such an upstanding man. Now I'm convinced, Hunt denied it, therefore it must be true.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#55
"So much effort to prevent people from speaking their minds on this historical tragedy."
zappaman
Nov 2013
#56
Most of us, a majority of the people, want to see bullshit countered and don't everything their
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#65
E Howard Hunt planted fake cables in WH safe to make it look like JFK ordered Diem assassination...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#141
CIA caught red-handed in HSCA safe, a pattern of obstruction of justice in JFK assassination.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#142
Wow, thank you for that. Tampering with evidence. Yet nothing was done about it, and some wonder why
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#144
I don't know what Brehm said, but Lane interviewed him on videotape. It's on You Tube.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#109
You've got the wrong book. The CIA went after Lane's idiocies in in his POS book
stopbush
Dec 2013
#153
Guilt by association is un-American. Lane is an attorney who represented two clients.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#28
It's easy. Mark Lane says we don't know the whole truth, but it looks like CIA conspiracy.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#38
I watched the 'Firing Line' debate between Lane and Buckley on YouTube the other day
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#6
It doesn't matter, but I believe Mark Lane is Jewish. He also is an attorney...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#41
Mark Lane's involvement with Liberty Lobby references the JFK assassination.
avaistheone1
Nov 2013
#50
I'm pretty new to all the JFK conspiracy stuff, about the past 6-7 years or so. I was only 9 months
Ghost in the Machine
Nov 2013
#73
YOU are a DU treasure, Octafish, keep the info coming. I look forward to your next reporting.
mother earth
Nov 2013
#47
And yet when he was a part of the HSCA investigation, he agreed that the head wounds
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#51
Looks like you've got a host of Hugh Aynesworth wannabees in this thread Sir-K&R, NGU
bobthedrummer
Nov 2013
#44
I finally got around to reading Lane's Rush to Judgment in the mid-70s. I usually save books but
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#75
Seems after forty years, Lane's still working to get more than two pebbles in a straight line
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#115
A spoon of barley tossed into a barrel of water makes mighty thin gruel. Here's the testimony
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#129
The Chicago Plot involved a tipster named ''Lee.'' And the DIA harrassed Edwin Black.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#132
Apparently, Veciana's death was misreported, according to Vince Palamara.
robertpaulsen
Dec 2013
#193
Mr. Lane credited himself on that one! Said it should've been called 'The Mark Lane Bill.' LOL!
Octafish
Nov 2013
#120
It was, indeed, Oliver Stone's "JFK" that got Congress to pass the "JFK Act"
red dog 1
Nov 2013
#125