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66. Thank you, CanSocDem! Dr. Grover Proctor does an excellent job filling in the blanks...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 12:43 PM
Dec 2013
The Raleigh Call

Dr. Grover B. Proctor, Jr.

Combined from two articles published in Spectator Magazine
July 17 and 24, 1980

One of the most interesting and potentially important aspects of the John Kennedy assassination may not have anything to do with the murder itself. A story concerning the actions of the accused assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, has simmered on the back burner of the investigation since its discovery ten years ago, and is considered by leading assassination authorities to be a key in the unsolved mystery.

Oswald's movements and statements inside the Dallas jail up to the time of his murder have always been a huge mystery, and any clues to what happened during that time are vigorously sought by all researchers. So when a story surfaced that Oswald attempted to place a call from the jail to a person whose name had not otherwise entered the assassination investigation, it was big news.

In short, it is alleged that Oswald attempted to place a call to a John Hurt in Raleigh, North Carolina on Saturday evening, November 23, 1963, but was mysteriously prevented from completing the call. Though there is speculation that the call was incoming rather than outgoing (for example, a crank call to the jail from someone by that name), private and Congressional researchers believe Oswald, for whatever reasons, was the one attempting the call. The implications of that call have prompted former U.S. Intelligence officials to speculate on Oswald's possible link with intelligence agencies.


How We Know What We Know

On the night of November 23, 1963, two telephone operators were working the switchboard that controlled, among other Dallas municipal offices, the jail. One of the ladies, Mrs. Alveeta A. Treon, made a statement concerning the events of that night to assassination researcher and attorney Bernard Fensterwald some five years after the assassination, but then refused to sign it on advice from her lawyer, according to Fensterwald. The following is a condensation of that statement:

Mrs. Treon arrived for work at the switchboard between 10:15 and 10:35 that evening, and was told by her fellow worker, Mrs. Louise Swinney, that their supervisor had asked them to assist law enforcement officials to listen to a call that Lee Harvey Oswald would be making soon. Two men, that Mrs. Treon thinks might have been Secret Service agents, subsequently came into the switchboard area and were put in an adjacent room where they could monitor the expected call.

At about 10:45, the call from the jail came through, and both ladies rushed to take it. Mrs. Swinney handled the call, as it turned out; wrote down the information on the number Oswald wished to reach; and notified the two men of the call. Quoting from Mrs. Treon's statement: "I was dumbfounded at what happened next. Mrs. Swinney opened the key to Oswald and told him, 'I'm sorry, the number doesn't answer.' She then unplugged and disconnected Oswald without ever really trying to put the call through. A few moments later, Mrs. Swinney tore the page off her notation pad and threw it into the wastepaper basket."

After Mrs. Swinney left work at approximately 11:00 p.m., Mrs. Treon retrieved the piece of paper, and copied the information from it onto a telephone slip commonly used by the operators to record calls, so that she could keep it as a "souvenir."

Phone slipThat slip, which would turn up seven years later in a Freedom of Information suit brought by Chicago researcher Sherman H. Skolnick (a civil action filed in Federal District Court in Chicago, April 6, 1970, No. 70C 790), contains some startling things. It purports to show a collect call attempted from the jail by Lee Harvey Oswald to a John Hurt at 919-834-7430 and it gives another telephone number in the 919 Area Code, 833-1253. (The slip is reproduced in the Appendix of the 1975 book, Coup d'Etat in America by Canfield and Weberman, the first major work to deal with the "Raleigh call" and its implications for Oswald's links to intelligence agencies.)

What do we know about those two telephone numbers? The House Assassinations Committee gave one of its staffers, Surell Brady, reponsibility for investigating the "Raleigh Call." Though the committee's final report did not mention the call, Brady wrote a 28-page internal memorandum outling the results of their investigation of the incident.

In an insert after page 15 of the document, it is incorrectly reported that the two numbers listed on the telephone slip "were unpublished in 1963." This information was reported as having been supplied by Carolyn Rabon of Southern Bell Telephone Co. in 1978. However, a simple check of the December, 1962 Southern Bell telephone directory for Raleigh, North Carolina (which would have been current at the time of the assassination) and the December, 1963 directory (which would contain any new information and reflect any changes of listing status) shows that both numbers were published.

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http://www.groverproctor.us/jfk/jfk80.html

PS: Thank you for the kind words, CanSocDem. The good doctor, and too many like him, has been hounded -- professionally -- in his work and private life for writing that Oswald was not alone. Ending his research and writing into the assassination of President Kennedy, he has moved from academia into the self-employed sector. Seems if Oswald was a lone nut, people would be able to say that without fear of retribution.
I remember when he talked about the man in the bushes Politicalboi Nov 2013 #1
1968 interview? Really? MineralMan Nov 2013 #2
They know the rules about CT's here... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #4
Woo-believers? Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #9
"woo" is always believing the official story. Yes it is. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #10
No, "woo" is beliving something for which there's not any evidence. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #11
There's plenty of evidence that contradicts official stories as well. n/t cui bono Dec 2013 #54
Yet the post stands HangOnKids Dec 2013 #58
The rules about CTs are ignored by Hosts... SidDithers Dec 2013 #71
And I stand with you. Th1onein Nov 2013 #3
A comedian's opinion is not evidence. Progressive dog Nov 2013 #5
Moon Landings Not The Same Thing colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #6
Mort Sahl was correct. DUer Bobbie found this... Octafish Nov 2013 #7
"If America goes, it will surely be an inside job. " Scuba Dec 2013 #8
Mort was a very sharp and biting wit, he was on TV often during my childhood and I remember his Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #12
He was the friends of jFK and Reagan had two degrees Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #13
I've got to remember that quote Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #14
Good one! Raksha Dec 2013 #47
The Case Against LBJ Eddie Haskell Dec 2013 #15
Wallace's wife as well as Johnson's sister were enamored of Kinser (to put it politely) Samantha Dec 2013 #56
Mort Sahl interview on MaeBrussell.com... Octafish Dec 2013 #16
He has certainly been vindicated both ways. Raksha Dec 2013 #49
Mort Sahl supported Alexander Haig for President in 1988. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #17
Have you ever felt important, The Midway Rebel? Like when doing a job? Octafish Dec 2013 #18
Woo-hoo personal attack. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #19
Wow, a history teacher. Eddie Haskell Dec 2013 #21
Gee Eddie. Some Democrat you are. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #22
Thank you Mr. History Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #23
Wrong. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #25
you read and write for a living but can't tell the diff between "your" and "you're"? nt grasswire Dec 2013 #37
yeah a common error f ths waz my theesus i wud prrofred more The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #38
The Midway Rebel did it again. Octafish Dec 2013 #42
Yes, your correct. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #44
Thanks for calling attention to my thread, again. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #46
You're wrong there, too. Octafish Dec 2013 #48
Okey dokey. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #50
Figured you for a friend of zappaman. Apart from slurs, you also don't add or know much. Octafish Dec 2013 #63
Speaking of "John Hurt".... CanSocDem Dec 2013 #65
Thank you, CanSocDem! Dr. Grover Proctor does an excellent job filling in the blanks... Octafish Dec 2013 #66
Facts not speculation. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #68
That explains it. Octafish Dec 2013 #39
I am not impressed. Raksha Dec 2013 #51
Thanks for your honest opinions. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #53
What in the world is a Mid way Rebel? Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #20
I find it interesting all you have in this debate is personal attack and innuendo. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #24
OK.. What is a midway rebel? Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #26
You should look into the actual facts of the JFK assassination as earnestly as you have my DU sn. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #27
What grades to do teach history? Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #29
Kind of creepy. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #34
Ha.....LOL Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #36
Thanks Iching HangOnKids Dec 2013 #59
Why was he black listed in a country that claims to grant all Americans the right to speak their sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #28
Because his tirades against the WC simply were not funny anymore. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #30
So you're FOR censorship? I'm for the exact opposite, MORE speech. Those who support censorship sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #32
No, I'm for night club owners booking the acts they want. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #35
That's what the blacklisters in the 1950s said also. former9thward Dec 2013 #40
So....Elia Kazan and Bud Schulberg were in on the JFK assassination too?! The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #43
I pray you are just an internet "teacher". former9thward Dec 2013 #61
+ at least 16 solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #62
Thanks, my students appreciate your empathy. nt The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #69
I'm for night club owners who support the Constitution of the US and who are not influenced by sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #55
Yeah, I'm sure the night club owners were in on the JFK assassination too. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #57
Are you? I don't know who was in on the JFK assassination, yet. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #64
Well, if you can even insinuate that 60s club owners were part of the JFK conspiracy... The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #70
So Morten Sahl equals Jackie Mason Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #33
But But But HangOnKids Dec 2013 #60
He was on Ed Sulivan's show all the time Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #31
The Blacklists of the late 40's and early 50's were political. Archae Dec 2013 #41
Sahl set up the Johnny Carson - Jim Garrison interview MinM Dec 2013 #72
BTW you can follow Mort Sahl on twitter MinM Dec 2013 #73
Thank you so much, I definitely agreee with you that this was an honorable man. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #74
Outstanding post! Octafish Dec 2013 #77
Mort has been working since 1950! MortSahlFan Dec 2018 #78
Nothing will happen unless we have a REAL MEDIA upi402 Dec 2013 #45
Thank you, upi402. Octafish Dec 2013 #67
K & R. dchill Dec 2013 #52
"My Grandfather Came from Lithuania--Though Lou Dobbs Tried to Stop Him" MinM Dec 2013 #75
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