Great find, kpete, thanks! (Reply #12)

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12. Great find, kpete, thanks!

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Dear Pres. Obama: Dissent isn’t Possible in a Surveillance State (By Juan Cole) [View all]	kpete	Dec 2013	OP
k&r for exposure. n/t	Laelth	Dec 2013	#1
Dear Juan:	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2013	#2
K&R	woo me with science	Dec 2013	#3
I just can not figure this president out...	pangaia	Dec 2013	#4
But we don't live in a police state..	sendero	Dec 2013	#5
I agree with the above posters.	zeemike	Dec 2013	#6
He is POTUS! He has the Bully Pulpit!	Dustlawyer	Dec 2013	#16
Perhaps he just wants to live.	zeemike	Dec 2013	#32
You could be right. I would say trillions though.	Dustlawyer	Dec 2013	#45
We need someone who puts people first.	tblue	Dec 2013	#49
You have described	dotymed	Dec 2013	#52
^^ this ^^	TBF	Dec 2013	#51
Secret Police. Secret Courts. Secret Government.	Octafish	Dec 2013	#7
Really? Because the NSA retains copies of telecom data, dissent is impossible?	randome	Dec 2013	#8
Does it really stop there?	colorado_ufo	Dec 2013	#10
We don't. We can only go by what we know so far.	randome	Dec 2013	#19
it provides way too much leverage to executives that won't be as saintly as Obama	nashville_brook	Dec 2013	#37
Yes. Because the NSA retains copies of the telecom data, dissent is impossible.	JDPriestly	Dec 2013	#20
Nervous about what?	randome	Dec 2013	#22
Some dissenters will be easily cowed and some may not, it's a numbers game.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2013	#25
well said	kpete	Dec 2013	#30
The NSA has all the data on your communications and can link them to the communications	JDPriestly	Dec 2013	#26
Copying the telecom's records makes some sense to me.	randome	Dec 2013	#27
Getting a warrant is quite easy.	JDPriestly	Dec 2013	#36
What you say.....	Blus4u	Dec 2013	#29
Lol! I chuckle everytime you trot out Bernstein. As tho his evaluation outweighs Gore, Kerry	riderinthestorm	Dec 2013	#28
The NSA is nothing compared to plain old journalism	treestar	Dec 2013	#56
And the courts disproportionately punish activists.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#31
Once again you come to the defense of the authoritarian state.	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#38
There's plenty of dissent right here	treestar	Dec 2013	#55
K&R for wider exposure.	bvar22	Dec 2013	#9
nice post bvar!	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Dec 2013	#11
Great find, kpete, thanks!	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Dec 2013	#12
This amounts to a huge	ProSense	Dec 2013	#13
I think that is part of Obama's problem in dealing with this overly zealous security apparatus	JDPriestly	Dec 2013	#23
I think your assumptions are off. Criticism of the surveillance state is a criticism of the	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#39
Wait,	ProSense	Dec 2013	#41
We havent lost all dissent yet. But Occupy proved that those in Power will go to	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#42
What	ProSense	Dec 2013	#43
Let me try a different approach.	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#44
The comment	ProSense	Dec 2013	#46
Good grief. You have no argument here. You want to claim you are only pointing out what you	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#47
I made no friggin "assumption."	ProSense	Dec 2013	#48
The idea that dissent is suppressed is so absolutely hilarious	treestar	Dec 2013	#57
K&R!!	G_j	Dec 2013	#14
"potential for making dissent impossible"	gulliver	Dec 2013	#15
LOL. And your point is what?? nm	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#40
The irony in the comments on this OP dissenting with policy while claiming they cant is unbelievable	stevenleser	Dec 2013	#54
Brilliant commentary on the NSA spying.	JDPriestly	Dec 2013	#17
It's really not a problem. If you don't say anything against the regime, you're safe.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2013	#18
As we know in Madison, POLITICAL CONTROL OF POLICE is an essential element	HereSince1628	Dec 2013	#21
This is a must read.	jsr	Dec 2013	#24
Our government HAS abused the power that comes with information, & WILL CONTINUE	snot	Dec 2013	#33
The intent is not to keep "us" safe.	tblue	Dec 2013	#50
Thank you Juan Cole..perfectly stated. K&R	Jefferson23	Dec 2013	#34
I'm reccing this for Big Brother	BelgianMadCow	Dec 2013	#35
We all know how expensive "talk" is.	WinkyDink	Dec 2013	#53
Quite clearly, Mr Obama has already chosen...	99Forever	Dec 2013	#58

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