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In reply to the discussion: There are exactly two ways to get rich [View all]hughee99
(16,113 posts)34. It would seem like entertainers and athletes may not fall into either category.
While it may require having a shitload of money to make money from those talents, those providing that money aren't "rich friends", they are people who are hoping to also profit from your talents. Many people have wonderful ideas and find investors NOT because they have rich friends, but because rich people see the potential to profit from it. Simply because you don't get to keep all the money your idea makes doesn't mean you're not rich, and it doesn't necessarily mean the investors are your friends in any way.
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Bullshit. Rawling was on public assistance when she started writing as a way to relieve her
bluestate10
Dec 2013
#75
What do you think they're respective opinions of Warner/NBA/Columbia Records are? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#49
And each of them was made super-rich by selling their talent to huge corporations.
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#83
Most huge corporations started by middle class people-Nike, Apple, Walmart, Microsoft etc.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#6
Phil Knight was the son of a lawyer turned publisher. Knight's father sold out
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#12
I addressed your first list of "middle class" people; Steve Jobs was the only one who could
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#33
So you SUPPORT the idea that tax cuts for the rich (job creators) WILL be good for job creation?
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#84
I didn't say anything remotely like that. Did you reply to the wrong post?
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#86
My WHOLE POINT is that 99% of our corporations were conceived by independent people
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#88
We agree on the cause and solutions to the problem. Where we disagree is your assertion that huge
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#93
Where are you getting this "tax cuts for the rich" crap? You are the only one talking about this
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#97
RW propaganda is that we have to cut taxes for the super-rich BECAUSE they are the "JOB CREATORS"!
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#98
Thanks for proving my point. A strong middle class is what creates innovators and entrepreneurs.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#110
With backing from big money. Without that, bupkis for the good ideas. And big money doesn't
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#111
Thanks for making my point again. ALL of them ultimately CAME from the middle class FIRST.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#112
No, they didn't. Bill Gates was the great-grandson & grandson of bankers, a birth member of
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#113
What in the hell are you talking about? Now you're claiming that because maybe Gates'
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#116
OK, now Paul Allen is the founder of MS because Gates doesn't fit your storyline.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#118
Do you always need to resort to straw men? It bespeaks the lack of a strong argument.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#120
Right. It takes money to make money. There are TONS of talented, brilliant people
valerief
Dec 2013
#138
You keep asserting that but I haven't seen any evidence but your list of corporations which
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#101
Please point me to where I (or the OP) claimed that corporations were founded by other
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#109
I did however point out that your premise of average Americans starting huge corporations was wrong.
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#89
I am FOR business and corporations. They DO create jobs and a strong economy. My problem
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#92
For the last time, your claim that 99% of these huge corporations were started by people from
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#95
Edison Electric was founded from the beginning with backing from Western Union, controlled
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#122
You don't know bupkis about "ferry operators then" & dont pretend you do. Yeah, the
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#130
Straw men & personal attacks, it's all you got. It's been fun, but I'd rather argue with someone
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#134
You have a problem. Your alleged class origin (1%) is probably why you think people of your
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#136
Without capital how do you market, develop, manufacture your product? As you acknowledge in
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#14
Convince the SBA or a bank or group of investors to fund it. They dont have to be friends. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#16
"Friends" used loosely, & if they're "friends" it sure helps to get in the door. Point 2) still
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#18
No, point two doesn't stand. None of the SBA or Bank or group of investors is your friend.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#20
Bill Gates was rich at birth, due to his $1 million dollar trust fund from grandpa.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#21
That is not a defense of OPs point number two. It has thoroughly been debunked. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#22
A business plan isn't expertise. Expertise includes, for example, $ to hire good lawyers.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#61
It would seem like entertainers and athletes may not fall into either category.
hughee99
Dec 2013
#34
Is rich the only objective? People in Spain started the Mondragon Cooperative by borrowing
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#35
Like the famous "middle-class tinkerer" Mark Zuckerberg. First he stole some people's ideas, then
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#37
"'Go where the rich and the powerful are,' I'd tell him, 'and learn their ways." = so true.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#70
"In a moment of inspiration, Blakely cut the feet off panty house, and Spanx was born".
Nye Bevan
Dec 2013
#51
You are dead wrong. Some of the largest companies in the world were started up simply,
bluestate10
Dec 2013
#74
Can you name some of these companies started in garages, funded solely out of earnings from
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#77
That's how you get rich then poor then rich then poor then rich then poor...
jmowreader
Jan 2014
#142