True, all that money spent on killing machines could be going toward a "Green New Deal" (Reply #7)

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Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:23 AM

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7. True, all that money spent on killing machines could be going toward a "Green New Deal"

I know 3rd parties aren't too popular here, but this was one great plan: http://www.jillstein.org/summary_green_new_deal

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162 replies	Author	Time	Post
The Guardian: I worked on the US drone program. The public should know what really goes on [View all]	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	OP
Every time I read about the drone program, it enrages me. Land of the free? Psh. (nt)	anti partisan	Dec 2013	#1
That looks like an old out of style drone.	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#4
True, all that money spent on killing machines could be going toward a "Green New Deal"	anti partisan	Dec 2013	#7
Applause!	swilton	Dec 2013	#82
+1 Putting people back to work is so "Ross Perot".	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#11
Yeah! Putting people back to work is so "Ross Perot".	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#59
Even more disgusting........Home of the brave.	SammyWinstonJack	Dec 2013	#12
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t	Laelth	Dec 2013	#2
...	KG	Dec 2013	#3
Frightening stuff n/t	cinnabonbon	Dec 2013	#5
Our masters, the US Military. Their piggy bank, the US Treasury. nt	valerief	Dec 2013	#6
Probably shouldn't have read this first thing in the morning.	99Forever	Dec 2013	#8
And for the cost of just one of those hell fire missals	zeemike	Dec 2013	#9
n/r	marmar	Dec 2013	#10
We are targeting . . .	another_liberal	Dec 2013	#13
Our sociopath gov has made war clean to keep us from seeing what our vote gets us.	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#14
+1 One week of experiencing this in Fairfax County, VA, or Boston...	woo me with science	Dec 2013	#16
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2013	#41
I consider us all to be complicit in murder.	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#42
K&R. nt	DLevine	Dec 2013	#15
Compared to WW2..	iamthebandfanman	Dec 2013	#17
Did someone threaten to destroy the US lately? The wedding party in Afghanistan, the nearly two	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#23
+100	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#52
Sickening! I cannot even think of what we did in Libya and the ongoing brutality in that country	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#108
Lesser of two evils is still gut-wrenchingly evil.	woo me with science	Dec 2013	#18
Green for victory!!...	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#19
?	whatchamacallit	Dec 2013	#43
It's OK you don't understand. The OP knows what it means...nt	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#69
Green? No, pink. For more detailed info on drones, read CODEPINK (although admittedly I have not).	proverbialwisdom	Dec 2013	#65
Code Pink? LOL...	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#68
Their goofy antics as they confront raw power are entirely forgivable.	proverbialwisdom	Dec 2013	#71
+10 (nt)	reACTIONary	Dec 2013	#80
I love Code Pink.	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#109
Of course you do...	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#117
And Sid loves errant drone strikes?	think	Dec 2013	#122
That's a pretty weak attempt...	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#125
Yes, your posts are so enlightening.	think	Dec 2013	#126
You've got a long way to go, grasshopper...nt	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#127
You are correct. I am lacking. Perhaps you'd like to comment on the thread topic	think	Dec 2013	#128
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#129
This message was self-deleted by its author	think	Dec 2013	#131
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This message was self-deleted by its author	think	Dec 2013	#136
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#138
Sorry. I didn't get it. I am slow.	think	Dec 2013	#142
I self-deleted to avoid the confusion.	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#143
You two self deleting everything fucked up the thread...	snooper2	Dec 2013	#144
Is that supposed to mean something or a genuine acknowledgement that Democrats have always respected	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#157
Examine Jeremy Scahill's recent work, too. I haven't yet either but finally plan to, as well.	proverbialwisdom	Dec 2013	#66
When I was in the service, the UAV's that my unit operated weren't armed	MrScorpio	Dec 2013	#20
What's the difference between...	reACTIONary	Dec 2013	#81
Mission differences	MrScorpio	Dec 2013	#85
Mission differences are a valid (perhaps only valid) consideration...	reACTIONary	Dec 2013	#145
During my time in, we weren't arming the UAVs, at least the USAF wasn't	MrScorpio	Dec 2013	#149
All things being equal, bombing civilians is bad...	reACTIONary	Dec 2013	#151
None at all.	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#88
I'm not sure where you came up with this list...	reACTIONary	Dec 2013	#146
What "legitimate war" have we declared?	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#155
What warfare are we involved in? And how many #2 men are there? I remember during the Bush years	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#158
K&R. nt.	polly7	Dec 2013	#21
It's just a way of delivering a bomb	treestar	Dec 2013	#22
I don't really know where to begin to respond to your comment.	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#24
not sure if the naivety is feigned or real, but it is consistent.	KG	Dec 2013	#25
So you can't handle the question	treestar	Dec 2013	#27
hilarious.	KG	Dec 2013	#30
It's hilarious but astounding at the same time to see a Karl Rove, remember him, talkiing point	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#91
That is what Republicans say about Democrats 'they WANT us to be attacked by terrorists'.	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#56
Do you even care that you sound EXACTLY like Dick Cheney? [n/t]	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#89
I'm not sure 'naivity' can occur suddenly after being apparently informed throughout the Bush	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#28
So why don't you complain equally against guns, bomber planes	treestar	Dec 2013	#26
Sigh! Who are we at war with? You have ignored the fact that there is no war going on. So why are	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#29
So why cry about a particular weapon?	treestar	Dec 2013	#33
Um, so you have not read any of my comments, you are rewinding the same old talking points and	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#37
"Technique" is the correct word,	bvar22	Dec 2013	#58
That was one great post right there.	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#62
I was being polite. You are correct, I recognize the technique very well. What gets me is that it	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#86
It is an interesting phenomenon.	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#61
Thank you.	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#87
So incredibly binary	whatchamacallit	Dec 2013	#46
Because an 8000 mile layer of abstraction dehumanizes and makes killing innocents easier.	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#49
Except that it doesn't. Read the article:	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#98
Killing women and children in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc etc is WRONG	think	Dec 2013	#31
What are we allowed to do about terrorists?	treestar	Dec 2013	#35
15 of the 19 terrorists in the 9/11 attack were from Saudi Arabia.	think	Dec 2013	#45
+1 a significant amount.......nt	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#63
Because	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#113
+100	theHandpuppet	Dec 2013	#115
What terrrorists? Name them. Feinstein says we 'are in more danger than ever' 12 years after	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#50
The "right" to go after Al-Quaeda..	SomethingFishy	Dec 2013	#60
This seems appropriate here:	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#90
We can stop creating terrorists. That'd be a fantastic start.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#93
Great Question, treestar.	bvar22	Dec 2013	#154
I give up! 'It's better than a nuke'!	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#32
The victims of any weapon will suffer	treestar	Dec 2013	#38
"Question nothing"	whatchamacallit	Dec 2013	#47
Here's an idea	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#51
Are you talking to yourself? You made stuff up and then answered yourself. Are you aware of doing	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#53
The US was founded by "terrorists"	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#112
All she does is sit at her	Puglover	Dec 2013	#44
"A" war?	El_Johns	Dec 2013	#48
We do. Let's cut the big war budget by 50%.	grahamhgreen	Dec 2013	#75
This is one subject on which we can totally agree	theHandpuppet	Dec 2013	#116
Yes. So are mines	NoOneMan	Dec 2013	#34
You just dont get it. Not surprised. We are not at war. WE ARE NOT AT WAR.	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#72
"it's just a way of killing children, that's all"	grahamhgreen	Dec 2013	#73
What war?	polly7	Dec 2013	#78
Thanks for that great post! nt	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#114
You're welcome. Sorry about some of those links.	polly7	Dec 2013	#147
Heart breaking. Thank you for posting.	think	Dec 2013	#121
You're very welcome.	polly7	Dec 2013	#148
Drone warfare shows how the west will fall	Harmony Blue	Dec 2013	#36
What are we going to say when Russia or China	DirkGently	Dec 2013	#39
Well we have given them the right to do that haven't we? I doubt many in the world are going to be	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#54
Every time things improve, we let the barbarians back in.	DirkGently	Dec 2013	#55
heck, war only got big with the Renaissance	MisterP	Dec 2013	#57
You have every right to jump in! Thanks for the info, I was thinking of Smedley Butler	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#83
We're busy creating terrorists....	sendero	Dec 2013	#40
I halfway imagine that is the idea.	DirkGently	Dec 2013	#64
+1	grahamhgreen	Dec 2013	#74
I think I agree with you...	sendero	Dec 2013	#120
Organic evil. If the "right" parties benefit, things continue.	DirkGently	Dec 2013	#160
thank you	heaven05	Dec 2013	#67
Notes From> Noam Chomsky: “Media Control”	fleabiscuit	Dec 2013	#70
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2013	#76
Great quote- Those over 45 will remember (?) how we were told that the USSR	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#111
Let's look forward, not back.	merrily	Dec 2013	#77
,	blkmusclmachine	Dec 2013	#79
She joined the US Army. What exactly did she think she'd be doing in the military?	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#84
Is there no atrocity you will NOT support in the name of your President? [n/t]	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#92
Did you read the article perchance? She has no problem killing people.	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#95
I'm not referring to the person in the article, I'm referring to YOU.	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#102
No kidding. nt	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#103
Golly, did you think I wouldn't see your response here?	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#130
I don't suppose you have a point for us today?	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#133
Are you slow?	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#134
Thanks, that answers my question. nt	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#135
Mine too. I've confirmed that your word is useless.	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2013	#137
Did Santa forget to fill your stocking	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#139
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Thanks for sharing. nt	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#141
Hehehe...	SidDithers	Dec 2013	#156
Wow, that's totally not disgusting for several different reasons.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#94
None of which you managed to identify. nt	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#96
Let's start with how you made Obama the victim of this somehow.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#97
Obama did not initiate this conflict. nt	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#99
And neither does he seem to be in any hurry to end it.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#100
He's in a hurry to get US troops out, and US and coalition fatalities are falling:	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#101
In a hurry to get them out? You've got to be kidding me.	NuclearDem	Dec 2013	#104
Sunday LA Times: "From MRAP to scrap: U.S. military chops up $1 million vehicles"	ucrdem	Dec 2013	#105
This message was self-deleted by its author	Skittles	Dec 2013	#106
The drone she is showing is an surveillance drone	Historic NY	Dec 2013	#107
I don't think the writers choose the pictures for their articles	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#110
Heather looks like she needs a cup of coffee...	Lost_Count	Dec 2013	#118
This Brit was more creative	solarhydrocan	Dec 2013	#123
Also good...	Lost_Count	Dec 2013	#124
K&R	Solly Mack	Dec 2013	#119
"The drone program."	LWolf	Dec 2013	#150
I just wonder when then the government will turn these things against its own citizens.	Vashta Nerada	Dec 2013	#152
Just in case it was missed by the casual lurker,	Maedhros	Dec 2013	#161
Drones are not the problem.	WatermelonRat	Dec 2013	#153
drone terror bombing is just terrorism	rafeh1	Dec 2013	#159
kick	woo me with science	Dec 2013	#162

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