They aren't "non believers" They are people for whom the social atmosphere (Reply #15)

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Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:47 PM

15. They aren't "non believers" They are people for whom the social atmosphere

is very important and they are OK with going along with the doctrine. There is no reason not to -- other than one's own intellectual integrity, which isn't so important to most people.

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94 replies	Author	Time	Post
Salvation for Dummies [View all]	Scuba	Dec 2013	OP
Brilliant!	longship	Dec 2013	#1
+100	billh58	Dec 2013	#87
I just came home from a Christian funeral	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#2
So almost every believer is essentially a liar?	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#3
The club has its ceremonies and they are OK with it	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#4
That's Pascals wager - but again your statement is that most believers	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#5
Pascal's wager applied when those that didnt believe were really on the fence.	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#6
Than why do non-believers go to church, as this person claims?	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#8
I'm a godless heathen, and I go to church for funerals and weddings	MynameisBlarney	Dec 2013	#13
I would have preferred a wake to a memorial service, but they didn't put it up to a vote	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#20
I hear ya.	MynameisBlarney	Dec 2013	#29
They aren't "non believers" They are people for whom the social atmosphere	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#15
"I think most Atheists can feel the truth of God in their hearts; they just reject it."	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#16
Not at all. Just silly.	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#21
Rather depends on how you define "God" n/t	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#42
I don't have to believe to take your $50. That's the point	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#10
White lies aren't really lying	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#9
Do you have any evidence?	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#11
Not necessarily.	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#18
OK let me spell this out for you very clearly. I believe in God. I don't go to church for social	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#19
Before I reply, answer me this	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#23
No I'm a pacifist, more or less.	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#26
I diidn't want to irritate you further if you were a gun owner	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#52
Shit or get off the pot	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#56
If you communicate regularly with spirits, yeah, it would seem so.	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#59
And anybody who believes fits into that category	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#61
Is a person who believes in astrology delusional?	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#65
You've made your point	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#73
What I think of believers	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#74
Trying to get back to safe ground, eh?	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#75
Good point.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#77
The OP graphic was about the instututions. Jesus isn't here to speak for himself.	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#79
Like i said I go to church every week; I don't feel extorted	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#82
Well	phil89	Dec 2013	#85
Are you you delusional if you believe in God?	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#62
Didn't she say, in her opinion, almost everyone?	FSogol	Dec 2013	#24
She called almost every Christian a liar and a phony	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#27
Why do you believe God wants you to go to church?	AuntPatsy	Dec 2013	#50
Because I have prayed and felt a connection to him; and among other things he'd like me to do	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#51
I know quite a few who differ with not only how they perceive God but also what they believe	AuntPatsy	Dec 2013	#67
I would say a good chunk of them are...most people just give it lip service	snooper2	Dec 2013	#34
"Most people understand religion is bullshit."	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#36
I should have added "In the Western World"	snooper2	Dec 2013	#37
If you think that's what the Bible requires than you really don't know anything nt	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#38
I was shocked by that as well.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#39
This is getting interesting but I have to go meet a friend to play Golden Tee	snooper2	Dec 2013	#41
How do you choose which commandments to follow? n/t	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#43
There's no commandment that requires you to summarily execute your neighbors	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#44
You might want to re-read Exodus and Numbers. n/t	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#47
Point me to the scripture and I'll look it up.	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#49
OK	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#53
OK you've made your point	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#55
Don't blame us for what YOUR BOOK tells YOU to do.	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#58
I blame you for being so stupid and unengaged	el_bryanto	Dec 2013	#60
It's a worse argument to suggest your Holy book doesn't say things that it says.	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#89
Not my religion. I rejected it long ago. Don't blame me for it's content. n/t	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#88
Good question. to me I follow what makes sense and what I think comes from God.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#46
Letting your conscience be your guide is an excellent approach.	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#54
I know I don't know so I also know they don't know. I'll find out when I need to.	brewens	Dec 2013	#35
What an offensive post!	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#7
How is Bluestreak's post offensive?	FSogol	Dec 2013	#12
3rd paragraph.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#14
Still don't see what you are getting offended about. n/t	FSogol	Dec 2013	#17
Saying believers are not being true.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#22
Didn't she say, in her opinion and almost everyone?	FSogol	Dec 2013	#25
who is she to speak for them?	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#28
Did she say she was speaking for you? She stated an opinion.	FSogol	Dec 2013	#30
Yes and I found it offensive.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#31
Say hi to everyone at the "Church for the Perpetually Outraged" next Sunday for me.	FSogol	Dec 2013	#32
I am Episcopalian so I will miss their services.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#33
Not true to reality or to their religion typically.	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#45
I follow what I think is divinely inspired.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#48
Your post sums up what church is about.	Vashta Nerada	Dec 2013	#64
And that my friends	SCVDem	Dec 2013	#40
I can't remember the last time I heard anybody complain about	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#57
That's usually my line.	SCVDem	Dec 2013	#66
Yep. Pretty much.	Vashta Nerada	Dec 2013	#63
Yeah!	Glassunion	Dec 2013	#68
I'll pass your comments along to the Episcopalian Minister who sent me the graphic!	Scuba	Dec 2013	#69
Cool story bro.	Glassunion	Dec 2013	#70
She's my sister.	Scuba	Dec 2013	#71
Neat!	Glassunion	Dec 2013	#72
I'm curious why she is in the ministry	BlueStreak	Dec 2013	#78
I'm not aware of any reluctance on her part as to speaking honestly.	Scuba	Dec 2013	#84
I would be interested to know if your sister has seen this thread	cbayer	Dec 2013	#81
I sent her a link but don't know if she's seen it yet.	Scuba	Dec 2013	#83
Thanks. If she does see it, I would be interested in her response.	cbayer	Dec 2013	#86
It exposes the truth about religion throughout history?	Rex	Dec 2013	#76
Exactly. And the best way to expose truth is through intolerance.	Glassunion	Dec 2013	#80
Faith is believing things without justification. That has elements of delusion to it. n/t	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#90
Which is exactly why those of us with an obviously superior intellect must	Glassunion	Dec 2013	#92
Religion is harmful. It needs to be called out.	Gore1FL	Dec 2013	#93
Love the insults by some in this thread.	hrmjustin	Dec 2013	#91
Lock	Sissyk	Dec 2013	#94

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