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AuntPatsy

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67. I know quite a few who differ with not only how they perceive God but also what they believe

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:39 PM

Dec 2013

Their particular God wants from them, it's all about personal needs and or fears is my personal belief, it is factual how and why so many stories ended up in the so called words of God.

How I would more than likely privately view your beliefs in the real world is that you simply need to have a degree of faith in order to feel at ease in a world not so easy to deal with as I view some believers, there are many reasons I believe why people have faith in a deity, one never seen nor proven beyond a reasonable doubt to even ever existed.

I personally have my own beliefs but I honestly do not feel victimized and or insulted if someone fails to rationalize my beliefs which may differ from theirs. I don't understand why those who believe in Gods and or Goddesses allow others to make them feel insulted, I can only assume it is because privately the person feeling insulted may fell a bit wobbly on that faith, when your older it truly should become personal with no need to have validation of said beliefs from anyone other than yourself.

My personal feelings on the subject, could care less if someone called me nutty or whatever word they chose to use.

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Salvation for Dummies [View all] Scuba Dec 2013 OP

Brilliant! longship Dec 2013 #1

+100 billh58 Dec 2013 #87

I just came home from a Christian funeral BlueStreak Dec 2013 #2

So almost every believer is essentially a liar? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #3

The club has its ceremonies and they are OK with it BlueStreak Dec 2013 #4

That's Pascals wager - but again your statement is that most believers el_bryanto Dec 2013 #5

Pascal's wager applied when those that didnt believe were really on the fence. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #6

Than why do non-believers go to church, as this person claims? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #8

I'm a godless heathen, and I go to church for funerals and weddings MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #13

I would have preferred a wake to a memorial service, but they didn't put it up to a vote BlueStreak Dec 2013 #20

I hear ya. MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #29

They aren't "non believers" They are people for whom the social atmosphere BlueStreak Dec 2013 #15

"I think most Atheists can feel the truth of God in their hearts; they just reject it." el_bryanto Dec 2013 #16

Not at all. Just silly. BlueStreak Dec 2013 #21

Rather depends on how you define "God" n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #42

I don't have to believe to take your $50. That's the point BlueStreak Dec 2013 #10

White lies aren't really lying BlueStreak Dec 2013 #9

Do you have any evidence? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #11

Not necessarily. BlueStreak Dec 2013 #18

OK let me spell this out for you very clearly. I believe in God. I don't go to church for social el_bryanto Dec 2013 #19

Before I reply, answer me this BlueStreak Dec 2013 #23

No I'm a pacifist, more or less. el_bryanto Dec 2013 #26

I diidn't want to irritate you further if you were a gun owner BlueStreak Dec 2013 #52

Shit or get off the pot el_bryanto Dec 2013 #56

If you communicate regularly with spirits, yeah, it would seem so. BlueStreak Dec 2013 #59

And anybody who believes fits into that category el_bryanto Dec 2013 #61

Is a person who believes in astrology delusional? BlueStreak Dec 2013 #65

You've made your point el_bryanto Dec 2013 #73

What I think of believers BlueStreak Dec 2013 #74

Trying to get back to safe ground, eh? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #75

Good point. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #77

The OP graphic was about the instututions. Jesus isn't here to speak for himself. BlueStreak Dec 2013 #79

Like i said I go to church every week; I don't feel extorted el_bryanto Dec 2013 #82

Well phil89 Dec 2013 #85

Are you you delusional if you believe in God? hrmjustin Dec 2013 #62

Didn't she say, in her opinion, almost everyone? FSogol Dec 2013 #24

She called almost every Christian a liar and a phony el_bryanto Dec 2013 #27

Why do you believe God wants you to go to church? AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #50

Because I have prayed and felt a connection to him; and among other things he'd like me to do el_bryanto Dec 2013 #51

I know quite a few who differ with not only how they perceive God but also what they believe AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #67

I would say a good chunk of them are...most people just give it lip service snooper2 Dec 2013 #34

"Most people understand religion is bullshit." el_bryanto Dec 2013 #36

I should have added "In the Western World" snooper2 Dec 2013 #37

If you think that's what the Bible requires than you really don't know anything nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #38

I was shocked by that as well. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #39

This is getting interesting but I have to go meet a friend to play Golden Tee snooper2 Dec 2013 #41

How do you choose which commandments to follow? n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #43

There's no commandment that requires you to summarily execute your neighbors el_bryanto Dec 2013 #44

You might want to re-read Exodus and Numbers. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #47

Point me to the scripture and I'll look it up. el_bryanto Dec 2013 #49

OK Gore1FL Dec 2013 #53

OK you've made your point el_bryanto Dec 2013 #55

Don't blame us for what YOUR BOOK tells YOU to do. BlueStreak Dec 2013 #58

I blame you for being so stupid and unengaged el_bryanto Dec 2013 #60

It's a worse argument to suggest your Holy book doesn't say things that it says. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #89

Not my religion. I rejected it long ago. Don't blame me for it's content. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #88

Good question. to me I follow what makes sense and what I think comes from God. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #46

Letting your conscience be your guide is an excellent approach. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #54

I know I don't know so I also know they don't know. I'll find out when I need to. brewens Dec 2013 #35

What an offensive post! hrmjustin Dec 2013 #7

How is Bluestreak's post offensive? FSogol Dec 2013 #12

3rd paragraph. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #14

Still don't see what you are getting offended about. n/t FSogol Dec 2013 #17

Saying believers are not being true. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #22

Didn't she say, in her opinion and almost everyone? FSogol Dec 2013 #25

who is she to speak for them? hrmjustin Dec 2013 #28

Did she say she was speaking for you? She stated an opinion. FSogol Dec 2013 #30

Yes and I found it offensive. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #31

Say hi to everyone at the "Church for the Perpetually Outraged" next Sunday for me. FSogol Dec 2013 #32

I am Episcopalian so I will miss their services. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #33

Not true to reality or to their religion typically. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #45

I follow what I think is divinely inspired. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #48

Your post sums up what church is about. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #64

And that my friends SCVDem Dec 2013 #40

I can't remember the last time I heard anybody complain about BlueStreak Dec 2013 #57

That's usually my line. SCVDem Dec 2013 #66

Yep. Pretty much. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #63

Yeah! Glassunion Dec 2013 #68

I'll pass your comments along to the Episcopalian Minister who sent me the graphic! Scuba Dec 2013 #69

Cool story bro. Glassunion Dec 2013 #70

She's my sister. Scuba Dec 2013 #71

Neat! Glassunion Dec 2013 #72

I'm curious why she is in the ministry BlueStreak Dec 2013 #78

I'm not aware of any reluctance on her part as to speaking honestly. Scuba Dec 2013 #84

I would be interested to know if your sister has seen this thread cbayer Dec 2013 #81

I sent her a link but don't know if she's seen it yet. Scuba Dec 2013 #83

Thanks. If she does see it, I would be interested in her response. cbayer Dec 2013 #86

It exposes the truth about religion throughout history? Rex Dec 2013 #76

Exactly. And the best way to expose truth is through intolerance. Glassunion Dec 2013 #80

Faith is believing things without justification. That has elements of delusion to it. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #90

Which is exactly why those of us with an obviously superior intellect must Glassunion Dec 2013 #92

Religion is harmful. It needs to be called out. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #93

Love the insults by some in this thread. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #91

Lock Sissyk Dec 2013 #94