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634. May your 2014 be better than your 2013.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:06 PM
Dec 2013

'Cause judging by this post, your 2013 was not good at all.

du rec. xchrom Dec 2013 #1
I Agree 100%...and I like the rainbow flag. billhicks76 Dec 2013 #251
A very good point LiberalLovinLug Dec 2013 #371
I wrote an essay on this subject that might be of interest to you. Laelth Dec 2013 #579
thanks Laelth LiberalLovinLug Dec 2013 #688
Well, to be accurate, Obama "campaigned" as a Left Leaning Populist. bvar22 Jan 2014 #716
That is exactly what happened. He gave soaring speeches with no content. Now his supporters say Vincardog Jan 2014 #727
+ 1000000 woo me with science Jan 2014 #728
I remember "specific" promises to Organized Labor and the Working Class: bvar22 Jan 2014 #729
Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2014 #731
I think that's exactly what the Tea Party is doing to the right at the moment. Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #2
And for much the same reason. It isn't a matter of philosophy, it is the result of Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #5
Interesting thing though is that the Tea Party started out as disaffected Repugs... bluesbassman Dec 2013 #65
We won't see that, the left has no support from the rich except insofar as their willingness Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #82
The left will be co-opted by the 99% demwing Dec 2013 #99
Don't hold your breath harun Dec 2013 #414
I think the Tea Party started as an astroturf operation Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #109
Yep - AstroTurf for sure... See linked article klook Dec 2013 #134
Saboteurs have been disrupting liberal uprisings ever since Justice Powell wrote his manifesto in loudsue Dec 2013 #149
Will the 1% tolerate the people leaning left? No... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #384
Exactly - they have these neat military tools to keep us in check bodily and mentally Hestia Dec 2013 #433
Good post! loudsue Dec 2013 #449
+1000 G_j Dec 2013 #548
Your "grass roots" coach awaits you! KansDem Dec 2013 #169
I believe that's correct. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #180
of course the 1% isn't going to co-opt a lefty purist group Sheepshank Dec 2013 #589
+1. Tea baggers are for the billionaires. left is the people. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #195
I just don't see that playing out with the Democratic Left. BobUp Dec 2013 #143
Many of us will not accept the Third Way version of the Democratic Party. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #161
Then prepare for lancer78 Dec 2013 #259
You could not be more wrong. The issues and the electorate are entirely different now. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #312
I disagree, respectfully.Bill Clinton rebranded himself a "new democrat" but was in lexington filly Dec 2013 #341
Well said. +1 Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #496
Your arguments have a certain logical resonance... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #383
I've said this several thousand times but I'll say it again: tomp Dec 2013 #391
Agree with you about the Dems....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2013 #439
as you, I agree with your first paragraph only. tomp Dec 2013 #521
They don't serve the rich treestar Dec 2013 #489
bones must be thrown or the masses will revolt. tomp Dec 2013 #519
^^^^^^^Well said.^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Dec 2013 #613
Exactly. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #6
It's actually scary Andy823 Dec 2013 #23
Yea ...let's keep the party moving right ...because that's where the money and votes are. L0oniX Dec 2013 #40
On the other hand Andy823 Dec 2013 #63
That's the battered spouse school of voting theory. Chan790 Dec 2013 #67
Marvelous analogy, Chan! Feral Child Dec 2013 #602
"If you want more left leaning candidates get them elected in the primaries" is a "battered spouse"? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #604
No. Chan790 Dec 2013 #608
That's nothing like what Andy823 said muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #609
0 for 2. That's exactly what he said. Chan790 Dec 2013 #612
Here's what you said: muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #622
By all means do NOT blame the right leaning Dem centrists. pffft L0oniX Dec 2013 #77
Who besides you is advocating for not voting? Please give a link to a post from A Simple Game Dec 2013 #138
"We shouldn't vote for...", "No more lesser of two evils"... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #191
that will be your choice AlbertCat Dec 2013 #226
Grow up? Enthusiast Dec 2013 #381
It means what it says, I will no longer vote for a candidate just because they A Simple Game Dec 2013 #260
Thanks for the clarification! I think that when you say... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #276
By the way... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #278
lesser of two evils is reality creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #350
Wow, who knew it could be that simple? Why has no one thought of this before? n/t A Simple Game Dec 2013 #375
Who suggested that it would be simple... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #420
No, I am suggesting a radical idea, voting for the best candidate regardless of party. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2013 #434
No, I am suggesting a radical idea, voting for the best candidate regardless of party. n/t AlbertCat Dec 2013 #438
You mean Bernie Sanders? fadedrose Dec 2013 #465
The reason the far left never does it creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #443
What far left? AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #581
How do you know they "don't have the votes"? AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #582
Dennis Kucinich creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #600
+1 they keep repeating that as though it means something treestar Dec 2013 #488
"Lesser of two evils" is an admission that our candidate is evil. winter is coming Dec 2013 #498
"If you don't agree with Democrats, run some people in the primaries." !!! THIS!!! bvar22 Jan 2014 #715
"not voted for a Democrat in over 10 years" "the candidate I voted for was and is now the President" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #606
Nothing but the truth, think about it, I know you will be able to figure it out. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2013 #623
Playing 'A Simple Game' with you seems pointless muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #625
I believe you have to read what that person posted... Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #626
Third parties are not allowed where you vote? A Simple Game Dec 2013 #650
Obama is still a Democrat; you voted for a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #656
Yes I voted for someone picked by a party, the party was Working Family instead of A Simple Game Dec 2013 #665
But Obama is not a member of the Working Families Party; he is a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #666
quite easy, actually. there's a shit ton of parties on the ballots here. dionysus Jan 2014 #720
I didn't realize those parties didn't run their own candidates. Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #721
i don't think so.. they will run their own candidates for local stuff... but for national or dionysus Jan 2014 #725
No, I'm not saying President Obama isn't a Democrat, I'm saying he is more than a Democrat. A Simple Game Dec 2013 #647
"faced with a choice between a "Republican Republican" and a "Democratic Repulican""... jtuck004 Dec 2013 #377
Suggesting a write-in for "Edward Snowden" is another example... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #417
I am sure that is exactly the opinion any self-interested plantation owner would take jtuck004 Dec 2013 #461
Not really. I think the "self interested plantation owner" would... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #505
Well, then, he, or she, may get what he or she wishes <G> n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #507
Maybe because we have grown up over the past number of years, we have learned that the phrase sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #493
And if they win? (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #506
Ask the Party Leadership. The voters have no control over them winning. Voters will vote only for sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #510
RE So who to blame if Republicans win? reACTIONary Dec 2013 #547
Rahm Emmanuel was the one who told those who won the election, that 'minority' you just spoke of, sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #550
What is a 'hard core leftist'? I'm not sure... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #555
I know the word 'purist' is INTENDED to be an insult, that was clear when it first appeared on sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #564
I consider Emmanuel and Axelrod to be... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #588
The 'idea' that Emmanuel called 'retarded' was running ads against conservative Democrats in 2009 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #617
You mean ads against Third Wayers/Republican lite candidates which OF COURSE Rahm the Corporatist sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #630
Those who unnecessarily drive the Democratic party to the right are to blame AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #583
The key word is "unnecessarily"... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #584
Where is it written AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #641
Voters will vote for liberal, left wing candidates... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #655
Obama wasn't a 'liberal left wing candidate' AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #661
Obama wasn't a 'liberal left wing candidate'... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #664
They can't admit their responsibility in the loss of Congress in 2010. See the convulated excuses sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #631
Then they win Feral Child Dec 2013 #605
Excellent post, thank you. I wonder what it will take for the Party Leadership to realize that they sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #633
Agreed, Sabrina Feral Child Dec 2013 #669
Yes and if WE lose, the People that is, I know who I will be blaming and it won't be the voters. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #705
The END is NIGH!1!! reACTIONary Dec 2013 #657
You're not being "flippant", Feral Child Dec 2013 #668
Sorry for being flippent... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #677
Your assumptions Feral Child Dec 2013 #687
Have a great New Year!!! And you are right... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #692
In the last 5 years Maedhros Dec 2013 #160
We want more left-leaning candidates. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #239
You can bet we will end up running against a Tea Party candidate in the Jamastiene Dec 2013 #250
You are so right. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #365
Yep. DUer RC created this graphic to describe the pols in Washington ... Scuba Dec 2013 #401
Add Publicly-funded elections to that list, and I think you have a winner.. Volaris Dec 2013 #360
Problem is, we've been holding our noses and voting for the lesser of evils... polichick Dec 2013 #327
Anyone that wouldn't vote for the lesser of two evils AAO Dec 2013 #342
You don't think we could get someone to run for the Senate, the House and the presidency JDPriestly Dec 2013 #356
Of course. I think there are many Dems that should be primaried. AAO Dec 2013 #358
Or they can vote for the good. polichick Dec 2013 #399
And look at the results. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #382
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Dec 2013 #400
"They shipped our jobs out of the country" Dude if only that was all. L0oniX Dec 2013 #523
I agree. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #533
And it's worked so well for America to have to right wing parties Doctor_J Dec 2013 #192
Yes, right wingers collapsed everything in 2007 AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #574
Yea ...let's keep the party moving right AlbertCat Dec 2013 #224
+10 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #228
Last I heard, the chained CPI is still in the budget. I won't vote for anyone who votes JDPriestly Dec 2013 #240
Right. It seems pretty straight forward. AAO Dec 2013 #345
And in America winning is everything. raindaddy Dec 2013 #413
Where the votes are is kind of important. treestar Dec 2013 #486
Ok, now I'm confused- by "right wing plants"- do you mean plants from the Tea Party? Or "centrists"? LooseWilly Dec 2013 #62
Yeah ... I don't think it's intended to follow logically. DirkGently Dec 2013 #155
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #322
"'left' is presumptively radical and extreme." Yeah, even LBJ. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #385
LOL! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #165
Another ridiculous assertion fadedrose Dec 2013 #392
That's exactly what I was thinking as I read the OP... Blanks Dec 2013 #93
I'd say the "weak willed" are those willing to accept any degradation of Liberal values Maedhros Dec 2013 #162
Give me some specific examples of this 'degradation of liberal values'... Blanks Dec 2013 #225
Chained CPI; supporting charter schools; giving breaks to Wall Street instead of JDPriestly Dec 2013 #243
There are a lot of people supporting charter schools... Blanks Dec 2013 #262
Democrats could have increased the minimum wage when they had both houses of JDPriestly Dec 2013 #285
Beautifully said, JDPriestly! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #326
^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Dec 2013 #344
It might shock you to learn that not all democrats are laboring away... Blanks Dec 2013 #480
I would agree with you except for the fact that the wealth of the corporate managers, especially JDPriestly Dec 2013 #532
This thread has hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #330
And what do you think a teabagger president will do? AAO Dec 2013 #346
Look. The right-wing of the Democratic Party has lost a lot of working people JDPriestly Dec 2013 #352
I guess you can't fix stupid. AAO Dec 2013 #357
This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Dec 2013 #492
And who will be responsible if that happens? Surely you are not blaming voters when the blame lies sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #660
Well, if everyone refuses to vote for the lesser evil AAO Dec 2013 #673
"royal you"? "you people"? reddread Jan 2014 #735
Why don't you tell me what you're really thinking - it's vague to me. AAO Jan 2014 #736
I'm a progressive... Blanks Dec 2013 #539
It's not the reality of politics in America. No matter what you say. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #324
FDR didn't replace Henry Wallace. The Democratic party leaders did at the Convention. octoberlib Dec 2013 #537
Obviously, I phrased that poorly... Blanks Dec 2013 #538
centrists have been holding the "my way or the highway crap" gun.. frylock Dec 2013 #107
I put it this way: Maedhros Dec 2013 #163
word up frylock Dec 2013 #170
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #329
A point by point response: Maedhros Dec 2013 #156
Nailed it. n/t DirkGently Dec 2013 #185
Double nailed it. L0oniX Dec 2013 #200
tripple nailed Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #216
Thank you. Well said. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #244
Where's Andy? Maybe Andy has something more important to do, I'll check back tomorrow. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #281
As long as progressives, liberals, socialists, reformists, and Democrats cheapdate Dec 2013 #282
Bullshit. Voting for corporate-friendly Democrats does NOT enable Progressive policies. Maedhros Dec 2013 #295
Bullshit. There's no way in hell that the progressive agenda is served in any way cheapdate Dec 2013 #313
I'm considering the long game. Maedhros Dec 2013 #364
We need effective ways to get attention mdbl Dec 2013 #416
Don't short-sell the Democrats - they also have manipulators that they pay to make bad policy Maedhros Dec 2013 #475
It's smart to consider the long game. cheapdate Dec 2013 #518
Quadruple nailed it. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #333
Nice post! polichick Dec 2013 #337
There is no "FAR LEFT". Enthusiast Dec 2013 #164
It only seems "FAR LEFT" to them when they are FAR RIGHT and think they are centre. L0oniX Dec 2013 #310
+10 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2013 #184
Actually, it is the center and right wing of the Democratic Party that has Jamastiene Dec 2013 #248
So you like to disparage the left do you? To what aim? Are you trying to split the party? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #315
You are EXACTLY right. The TeaLEFT is almost as bad as the TeaRIGHT. Both are awash in radical RBInMaine Dec 2013 #380
you can't even get dems elected in your own state.. frylock Dec 2013 #454
You are completely WRONG about my state, and I am not disparaging actual liberals. Read on: RBInMaine Dec 2013 #540
Name the "many fronts" on which Obama has been "very progressive." Maedhros Dec 2013 #509
You only think of one because you see the world through a non-realist purist lens. Read on: RBInMaine Dec 2013 #541
Little progressive steps forward, Maedhros Dec 2013 #565
Obama's "successes" remind me of Jack & The Beanstalk. bvar22 Jan 2014 #719
that is sooooo delusional G_j Dec 2013 #549
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #575
+a stone cold billion Julie. Astonishing to see people who claim to be so smart Number23 Dec 2013 #136
Project much? L0oniX Dec 2013 #202
I'm sure that made perfect sense in your head. Here, this is for you and your pals Number23 Dec 2013 #232
Still projecting huh? No one is talking about your 3rd term candidate. L0oniX Dec 2013 #273
I'm not the one starting an OP trying to pretend that me and my nine other friends hold Number23 Dec 2013 #283
Again more projection about someone we are "rooting" for. Keep trying. L0oniX Dec 2013 #284
When you find a point, why don't you bring it along with you into this thread? Up until now Number23 Dec 2013 #289
First you project that "claim to be so smart" was said then project an Obama poll has anything to do L0oniX Dec 2013 #294
Between the typos and lack of point, I don't get what you're saying at all Number23 Dec 2013 #299
So now you resort to complaining about how many times a person posts??? What a joke! L0oniX Dec 2013 #303
Yes, throwing "ProjecTION!1" out with so obviously no idea what that means is a better strategy Number23 Dec 2013 #308
What was that about "typos and lack of point"? Heh ...wow ...hey you aren't pissed off are ya bro? L0oniX Dec 2013 #316
You don't need my help to look bad, do you?? Number23 Dec 2013 #319
LMAO "posts in this thread that say fuck all" Ok whatever. L0oniX Dec 2013 #323
You're putting me on ignore???! Oh joy!! And lucky for you, there's no spelling involved! Number23 Dec 2013 #328
Now I'm putting you on ignore? and "??!" Punctuation problem? L0oniX Dec 2013 #334
Red X, dude!! RED X!!!! Happy New Year to me Number23 Dec 2013 #338
Please don't beg. It's dehumanizing. L0oniX Dec 2013 #339
Your understanding of "begging" is as good as your understanding of "projection" Number23 Dec 2013 #347
LMAO "recs=power" Does the rec count tell you something you don't like? L0oniX Dec 2013 #349
Authoritarians always have a sadz over the truth. Rex Dec 2013 #567
Wow, how does 9 friends almost equal 300 recs? Rex Dec 2013 #566
Just what I was going to ask...except that it was 309 recs last time I checked. Raksha Dec 2013 #646
I love it when 10% of the Party call the other 90% "purists". Hilarious. Scuba Dec 2013 #402
A very good point - it would be funny if it hadn't worked for so long. Raksha Dec 2013 #648
So why would a Democrat want to disparage the left? What issues do you disagree with? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #318
Every single time you have tried to come after me, the conversation ends with you running Number23 Dec 2013 #325
Why is he "trying to waste" your time? Are you letting him control your time? L0oniX Dec 2013 #335
Dont flatter yourself. You arent that good at bullying. You just seem to like to rhett o rick Dec 2013 #353
I'm not that good at bullying?? Was I trying to be?? Particularly as YOU are the one that has Number23 Dec 2013 #376
your act is stale. Union Scribe Dec 2013 #386
What's even more stale is your "pile on 'cause I've got nothing ever" act Number23 Dec 2013 #478
My "1st grade attempts?" Again that's a very weak attempt. Your post is pure projection. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #422
Oh Praise the Lord! Can you make your little friend live up to his promise to put Number23 Dec 2013 #481
You still don't seem to understand ignore. Union Scribe Dec 2013 #487
It's how I work it. And thanks for reminding me Number23 Dec 2013 #490
And that post right there Union Scribe Dec 2013 #497
No, the problem is entirely YOURS as you have shown REPEATEDLY in this thread Number23 Dec 2013 #500
"needless net nannying as if anyone asked you to involve yourself" OMG the irony. L0oniX Dec 2013 #508
Edit Number23 Dec 2013 #520
I promised to put you on ignore? You are seeing shit that aint there now too? L0oniX Dec 2013 #524
"no interest in what you have to say about anything" ...and yet you keep responding. L0oniX Dec 2013 #425
!! Bobbie Jo Dec 2013 #410
"What a fucking whinefest" I give it a 3 on a Crying Infant scale of 1-10 Number23 Dec 2013 #477
Yea ...what is it with that? Does the left make them feel uncomfortable or something ... L0oniX Dec 2013 #331
I am guessing that those that disparage the left do so because they covet conservative ideologies. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #355
Of course it does, it goes directly against their agenda. Rex Dec 2013 #569
There's always this marsis Dec 2013 #22
This is an example of why the OP is correct. Fearmongering instead of discussing what went wrong sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #34
I think what you' re saying is important. truedelphi Dec 2013 #83
no..... sendero Dec 2013 #111
We are talking about two different processes inside the reality of politics. truedelphi Dec 2013 #302
It sounds great when you speak in vague terms... Blanks Dec 2013 #152
'We have to compromise'. Sorry, we've been doing that. THEY have to compromise. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #183
I'm not talking about compromising with the republicans... Blanks Dec 2013 #222
Or is it a question of compromising with Republicans who claim to be Democrats? JDPriestly Dec 2013 #252
Let's see. The marginal tax rate is OK. Charter schools are OK. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #249
The only advice I was giving was to vote. That's how... Blanks Dec 2013 #255
People who have always voted WILL vote, but as we saw in 2010, they will vote for Progressive sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #266
I found this telling: Maedhros Dec 2013 #511
Amen. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #177
I think the tea party MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #37
...and the Dem party "it seems" is catering to the defectors and embracing them while discarding... L0oniX Dec 2013 #44
Exactly, sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #85
I am not at all surprised that you cant see the difference. The left are holding onto principles rhett o rick Dec 2013 #173
Me too! +1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #336
The difference is that teabagging policies are for the 1%. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #363
Except the Democratic "left" is actually in line with the majority of Americans Ash_F Dec 2013 #366
That is why dotymed Dec 2013 #442
My point is about the tactics, not the philosophy nt Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #463
Amen. As i read the OP, I'm thinking "Switch Dem with GOP and left with tea party" 7962 Dec 2013 #396
Yeah, just fuck all those folks who will die. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #3
Let us know when the rich who make money from the MIC will contribute to the anti war... L0oniX Dec 2013 #8
Nice sidestep. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #9
You mean people who vote Aerows Dec 2013 #14
The sidestep is all yours. L0oniX Dec 2013 #17
you're turning the definition on its head. It's those who insist on voting for the lesser of 2 evils yodermon Dec 2013 #52
What you see as "lesser of 2 evils", Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #474
So voting your conscience.... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #64
Oh come one now ...get with the program. If it has a (D) by its name ...vote for it. L0oniX Dec 2013 #84
This somehow seems appropos..... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #95
Epic Kitteh insight. L0oniX Dec 2013 #97
Wow! Liberals are now sociopaths? Um-hmmm. loudsue Dec 2013 #176
Sometimes you end up in bizzarro land when your not planning to go there. L0oniX Dec 2013 #196
Damn dude, sociopathy. You'd think you were defending a drone program that regularly kills innocents JoeyT Dec 2013 #110
Wow ...how did you read that? ...I needed a sarc tag? L0oniX Dec 2013 #120
There still patting themselves on the back for the Clinton-era sanctions against Iraq Maedhros Dec 2013 #168
I was referring to the JoeyT Dec 2013 #287
Vote or be blamed for Death fascisthunter Dec 2013 #39
Makes ya wonder what party yer in don't it. L0oniX Dec 2013 #47
I don't consider them as dems fascisthunter Dec 2013 #517
You wonder what we thought when Bush launched his criminal war? You mean you don't remember? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #43
Your capacity for selective reasoning is quite impressive. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #72
What about Obama EXPANDING the Afghan war that Bush started, Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #261
I think you may very well be right. Autumn Dec 2013 #4
The Democratic Party is going to have to appeal to the left if it wants the Left's votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #7
Oh they will appeal to us ...and then throw us under the scenic cruiser again. L0oniX Dec 2013 #11
They'll appeal to us with cries of "not as bad" and the "lesser of two evils". Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #15
Look at post 3 ...it's already started. L0oniX Dec 2013 #18
Yep. And, they will claim the Left gave the seats to the Republicans after the election. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #41
It should be made clear right now. IF Democrats lose the next election, the ONLY people to blame sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #49
+1. "We suck less!" is not a viable platform. n/t winter is coming Dec 2013 #55
Imagine ^^ that ^^ on a bumper sticker, LOL!!! n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #70
LOL! 2banon Dec 2013 #267
Or "We Suck Less?" SomeGuyInEagan Dec 2013 #280
Leadership is the problem Aerows Dec 2013 #60
Recently there has been one happy exception to the truedelphi Dec 2013 #94
Yes, I supported DeBlasio due to his long history on progressive issues. I would not have supported sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #104
Yet ProSense Dec 2013 #121
If he continues that trend, he will lose the next election and if he had told people he intended to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #129
So that's it? ProSense Dec 2013 #150
De Blasio Appoints Goldman Sachs Exec To Deputy Mayor Post For 'Fighting Inequality' Phlem Dec 2013 #208
So you approve? ProSense Dec 2013 #209
Yep. Phlem Dec 2013 #212
What? ProSense Dec 2013 #215
Right, as expected. Phlem Dec 2013 #217
And we all know how that worked out BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #125
They will also LIE, blatantly and shamelessly. woo me with science Dec 2013 #166
+1 a shit load............nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #340
As always.. 99Forever Dec 2013 #418
They are selling brand identity. Maedhros Dec 2013 #512
This is the same argument used by Ralph Nader Gothmog Dec 2013 #652
If the candidate wants the votes of the left, then he must appeal to left wing voters. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #654
Thank you MissDeeds Dec 2013 #20
I think the TPP Aerows Dec 2013 #10
I hope so, but.. X_Digger Dec 2013 #78
You'd hope Aerows Dec 2013 #103
Well, to be fair, some dumb redneck said something stupid on TV. Maedhros Dec 2013 #171
Exactly...............nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #343
you apparently don't know how it works here. Phlem Dec 2013 #607
That's the red line, right there Autumn Dec 2013 #672
Just say no to Hillary? ProSense Dec 2013 #12
To win, she will have to attract the Indepents who came out in 2008 to get rid of Bush policies sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #59
Wait, ProSense Dec 2013 #75
I was clear in what I said I believe. No candidate can win with just their base. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #91
Let me ProSense Dec 2013 #100
Funny, From Where I'm Sitting It Looked Like They Came Out To Insure Bush's 3rd Term Upward Dec 2013 #190
You can thank Liberas for that, again. But since that's not likely to happen, we are where we are sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #264
Odd isn't it? dflprincess Dec 2013 #297
Yes, very odd. We need to keep reminding them of their constant claim that Liberals aren't needed sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #362
I don’t think that there are that many of these self-destructors... busterbrown Dec 2013 #69
If the Party steps up to defend and expand the safety net, we'll win in 2014 and 2016. winter is coming Dec 2013 #354
I do. hootinholler Dec 2013 #293
They'll lose if the left is necessary to win. polichick Dec 2013 #304
I think the point is, that the People will lose. The Party may win, but the victors will be Big Corp 2banon Dec 2013 #307
I'm here to say I guarantee she will lose. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #361
I wish you were right but I fear you are wrong tularetom Dec 2013 #13
The tiny number of people crazy enough to desert can be done without. gulliver Dec 2013 #16
Hmmm "Deserter Democratic Left" or the "Corporatist Democratic Right" ...decisions ...decisions L0oniX Dec 2013 #19
+++ You nailed it.... fadedrose Dec 2013 #467
To all those that dismiss Aerows Dec 2013 #21
That would be it. Autumn Dec 2013 #28
I would not be one of those who dismiss the voices... gulliver Dec 2013 #33
Excuse me? Aerows Dec 2013 #45
In all these cases where people lose out... gulliver Dec 2013 #80
"The best Democrats can do". You make the OP's case. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #87
No, here's the problem Aerows Dec 2013 #92
Good ole Patty Murray Phlem Dec 2013 #123
Oh? And what do you imagine the "Democrats" will accomplish without "the dead weight"? winter is coming Dec 2013 #24
Hey Aerows Dec 2013 #27
Likely much better results for 99%. gulliver Dec 2013 #42
Except the ones who might leave the Party are the ones who actually oppose winter is coming Dec 2013 #50
But they oppose it incompetently. gulliver Dec 2013 #96
You don't get effective donkeys Aerows Dec 2013 #102
Rather ironic for you to be accusing anyone of "beating the donkey". n/t winter is coming Dec 2013 #106
More donkeys pulling to the Right is not helpful. Maedhros Dec 2013 #174
You end up with a Donkephant or an Elephonky when they merge. L0oniX Dec 2013 #206
very good... KoKo Dec 2013 #421
Oh look. Another lecture from a grown-up centrist. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #269
consider the fact that most people don't even vote now fascisthunter Dec 2013 #48
But when that "tiny number" does sit out, they are blamed for Dem losses. progressoid Dec 2013 #53
Well they do more than sit. gulliver Dec 2013 #89
They kill the Democratic buzz? backwoodsbob Dec 2013 #119
Then that's EXACTLY what you'll have to do. :-| n/t DeSwiss Dec 2013 #71
You're not aware of the huge Coalition formed before the last election by various organizations sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #74
^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Dec 2013 #88
and you'll be front and center blaming the "Deserter Democratic Left" when the dems lose frylock Dec 2013 #133
Dem support for President Obama has SLIPPED to a whopping 77%, liberal Dem is at 79% Number23 Dec 2013 #153
Like in 2010? Doctor_J Dec 2013 #159
Withdrawing into fantasy again, I see. It's like there is some switch that lets you Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #265
I'd be overjoyed by Aerows Dec 2013 #25
+1. If we're going to indulge in corporate welfare, couldn't it be for businesses that are winter is coming Dec 2013 #29
Absolutely Aerows Dec 2013 #76
Having just found the site MO_Moderate Dec 2013 #26
Helping others who need it without casting judgement. uppityperson Dec 2013 #30
Dems used to stand for things the people needed, not what big business needed. madfloridian Dec 2013 #118
As a Democrat, i'm presuming here, you surely don't have to ask that question? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #122
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Dec 2013 #148
the very fact that we are fighting desperately to save 'Obamacare" or the ACA to use its Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #203
Here you go. And this is a very abbreviated list. woo me with science Dec 2013 #214
I need more links... nikto Dec 2013 #236
Awesome. nt hay rick Dec 2013 #258
Aw, come on. Is that all you've got? uppityperson Dec 2013 #272
Great list, bookmarking it for future reference. madfloridian Dec 2013 #388
And it's a list of things that the President alone is not able to change. Check out who voted for kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #406
Well done! raindaddy Dec 2013 #415
I love ProSense Dec 2013 #419
Bookmarked! KoKo Dec 2013 #423
+1 ^^^THIS^^^ ...copied and saved. L0oniX Dec 2013 #451
wait...this is another symptom of DU...this list is ok, but the "other" list is scorned? Sheepshank Dec 2013 #601
Feel free to counter the points on this list as well. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #670
of course. the third party people wouldn't have it any other way. dionysus Jan 2014 #726
When I officially joined the Democratic Party in 1966, bvar22 Dec 2013 #649
Bottom line for most is ...who's going to pay for Dem political campaigns. L0oniX Dec 2013 #31
You describe the reason we need to fight in primaries. jeff47 Dec 2013 #32
Historically, that's happened only after the Hamiltonian party has collapsed Warpy Dec 2013 #35
Time for REAL Change !!! blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #36
Yep-- and self-described "centrists" have already proven themselves too fickle to be relied upon. Marr Dec 2013 #38
The Lieberman-ization of the Dem party. L0oniX Dec 2013 #58
It's the "Reagan Democrats" showing up again. Maedhros Dec 2013 #513
Christie Democrats. How 'bout those blue dogs! octoberlib Dec 2013 #522
I concur especially about Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2013 #46
I have been saying this for a long time. Let us hope this is the moment in time. nt silvershadow Dec 2013 #51
I don't think a democrat "left" will prevail and take over the party meadowlark5 Dec 2013 #54
I don't think the left is trying to take over the party. That's already happened by the right. L0oniX Dec 2013 #68
If we could get more representation like Elizabeth Warren meadowlark5 Dec 2013 #101
Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Mike Gravel, Alan Greyson, Wendy Davis, Carl Sciortino... L0oniX Dec 2013 #470
.... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #79
We must take back our Party. Support progressive organizations outside the Party rhett o rick Dec 2013 #56
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2013 #57
Fuck Yea! Phlem Dec 2013 #61
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2013 #66
Nice! Phlem Dec 2013 #73
OMG LMFAO L0oniX Dec 2013 #90
I can be contemptuously scoffed at and NOT represented by Republicans without lifting a finger. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #81
+1. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #614
2014 FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #86
You mean the imminent election of Jeb Bush? XRubicon Dec 2013 #98
Tired, overused excuse. Phlem Dec 2013 #112
ok let's do the Ted Cruise Tea party strategy XRubicon Dec 2013 #124
Wow Phlem Dec 2013 #127
Thank you for your interest in the Democratic Party XRubicon Dec 2013 #154
ooooh! Phlem Dec 2013 #197
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Dec 2013 #199
kentuck is going to elect Jeb Bush all by himself? U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #126
You should take a quick look at the DU terms of service XRubicon Dec 2013 #367
Threaten with the TOS? How quaint. U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #369
Thanks to the Dem right ...who will vote for him in secret. L0oniX Dec 2013 #128
We are also focusing on the primaries... Chan790 Dec 2013 #130
Hell yes bud! Phlem Dec 2013 #132
I'll vote for whoever you want, if they win the primary... XRubicon Dec 2013 #158
Is that's the best ''scary'' you can do? Jeb? Really? DeSwiss Dec 2013 #141
Yes - two wars and the collapse of the economy with his brother was nothing to be afraid of XRubicon Dec 2013 #178
What I want...... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #181
The Jeb Bush whose education plan Obama is trying to implement? Doctor_J Dec 2013 #187
So you see no difference in President Obama and Jeb Bush? XRubicon Dec 2013 #193
LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS!!!! H2O Man Dec 2013 #292
Yeah, whats so bad about having a republican president anyway! XRubicon Dec 2013 #301
Agree Completely - Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Dec 2013 #105
The fact is that the status quo sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #108
Well said - k&r polichick Dec 2013 #113
I think the Party is coming to us. DirkGently Dec 2013 #114
Everyone is thinking about this all wrong! It is not about Republican and Democrat any longer. Dustlawyer Dec 2013 #115
It always was about Plutocrats, their minions, and the brainwashed. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #186
Okay, I think I have been here before. They killed my president and his brother and MLK. What the jwirr Dec 2013 #116
Again! whistler162 Dec 2013 #117
I'm compelled to say that you'd enable Republicans because of selfish reasons. great white snark Dec 2013 #131
Thank you wryter2000 Dec 2013 #151
The Democratic Party has always been HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #135
So you're saying..We'd be better off to have a Republican President than a Dem like Bill Clinton? Auntie Bush Dec 2013 #137
President Nader agrees. Everybody else is a bit more pragmatic. mikekohr Dec 2013 #139
I'm trying to reform the Democratic Party locally but... hay rick Dec 2013 #140
Once again, some prefer fighting Dems to fighting the GOP. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #142
"If the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and the White House, then so be it." chieftain Dec 2013 #144
This is what bothers me too Flatpicker Dec 2013 #223
+1,000,000 recs. The rich don't fear that we hate them, they fear that we don't hate each other." mikekohr Dec 2013 #234
BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA woo me with science Dec 2013 #275
Obama took that quote from the Hopi and didn't credit them... polichick Dec 2013 #311
Abso fucking lutely. At lease a few folks have OPENLY said in this thread and others that they want Number23 Dec 2013 #235
+1. Shrugging off the result of another 8 years of GOP rule, with the death and discrimination, is a freshwest Dec 2013 #263
I think 'temper tantrum' describes this type of thing perfectly. Number23 Dec 2013 #291
I wish they'd have the courage of their convictions... SidDithers Dec 2013 #271
"I guess they value their posting privileges more than their principles." And you nailed it, Sid Number23 Dec 2013 #286
This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #440
The repukes HAVE been controlling things without having a majority. L0oniX Dec 2013 #290
"If the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and the White House, then so be it." Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #644
Possibly. davidthegnome Dec 2013 #145
President Rand Paul? wryter2000 Dec 2013 #146
I disagree with your assessment of the Democratic Party. One thing about polical parties is madinmaryland Dec 2013 #147
As a lifelong Democrat, I'll keep trying to push my party left mountain grammy Dec 2013 #157
Hear! Hear! Titonwan Dec 2013 #167
Not even three hours, and 120 recs. woo me with science Dec 2013 #172
the democratic party left me..no truer words xiamiam Dec 2013 #175
I logged in for the sole swilton Dec 2013 #179
At least I'm not the only one saying it at this point. nt LWolf Dec 2013 #182
When did I hear this before... oh yes in 2010 when we lost big OKNancy Dec 2013 #188
So why don't the DC Dems try to attract some liberal voters then? Doctor_J Dec 2013 #194
We lost cuz Dems stayed at home when they saw the neocon agenda being furthered by our own party. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #198
We won in 2012. n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #205
We won it for ya. You know what we need to do. Stop the hoarding class. C'mon, it will be fun!!! grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #241
You sold out? n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #247
Some were trying to get out from under the bus at the time. L0oniX Dec 2013 #211
.... Phlem Dec 2013 #201
We lost because Nite Owl Dec 2013 #210
Shhh. Phlem Dec 2013 #254
k/r 840high Dec 2013 #189
I will say that this is a very enlightening post. Phlem Dec 2013 #204
You'll let us know when that happens, right? brooklynite Dec 2013 #207
Do they have to be real progressives or is it good enough to imagine that they are? L0oniX Dec 2013 #213
Dude. That NEVER happens! Phlem Dec 2013 #218
LOL L0oniX Dec 2013 #220
I don't know what the right anwser is. Flatpicker Dec 2013 #219
I here ya and agree. Your vote is yours and you deserve to have a say in how things work. Phlem Dec 2013 #227
anything is better than having the Republicans in total control. Well, no, it isn't . AlbertCat Dec 2013 #221
You and...ahem...what army? tritsofme Dec 2013 #229
Yet at the same time there is an entire corporate brigade woo me with science Dec 2013 #430
+1 L0oniX Dec 2013 #436
It would be pretty silly to blame 2010 on a disaffected left. tritsofme Dec 2013 #447
A number of Republicans have moved to the Democratic Party complaining that their party left them. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2013 #230
I prefer to have Republicans in office who have an R after their name rather than a D. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #231
Really? Sheepshank Dec 2013 #597
Americans will persist in their addiction to right-leaning Government... nikto Dec 2013 #233
Well said, kentuck! City Lights Dec 2013 #237
Your vote is the only power you have. Make them EARN it. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #238
If I kill myself, then they'll be sorry!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #242
perfect analogy treestar Dec 2013 #245
ROFL. eom Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #482
LMAO Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #514
Nice. Union Scribe Dec 2013 #515
Na, mocking whiners. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #543
This uponit7771 Dec 2013 #536
Good Democrats would never sell out we the people by supporting the narrow interests of those with indepat Dec 2013 #246
#21 You Threaten To Form Your Own Party If You Don't Get 100% of What You Want ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2013 #253
And who are you to tell him to leave??? fadedrose Dec 2013 #279
I'm glad you acknowledge that President Obama is a Democrat ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2013 #288
You see, that's a problem for me too fadedrose Dec 2013 #314
Then maybe you should leave the D.U. as well ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2013 #374
If Jeb Bush ran as a Dem, would you vote for him? NorthCarolina Dec 2013 #429
Only if he won the nomination... ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2013 #459
Yea ...we 3rd way centrists don't need or want their stinking votes. L0oniX Dec 2013 #437
+1 Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #483
k&r... spanone Dec 2013 #256
I largely agree Babel_17 Dec 2013 #257
That's some prime FUD right there... SidDithers Dec 2013 #268
Most Democrats cannot bring themselves to talk about it anymore. kentuck Dec 2013 #270
They do ProSense Dec 2013 #298
yep! Phlem Dec 2013 #306
Does that ProSense Dec 2013 #309
Yeah, he makes a speech like that while at the very same time... polichick Dec 2013 #317
Actually, ProSense Dec 2013 #320
The TPP isn't even out of draft form yet. Phlem Dec 2013 #321
That Republican healthcare plan should've been a Democratic plan. polichick Dec 2013 #332
"That Republican healthcare plan " ProSense Dec 2013 #348
The joke's on you - that plan was hatched by the Heritage Foundation... polichick Dec 2013 #397
No, ProSense Dec 2013 #404
The important part to remember is what a real Dem plan would look like... polichick Dec 2013 #444
Some pathetic, diluted, sold out group of empty minds voting without principles and conscience??? L0oniX Dec 2013 #300
I suspect we might see the GOP vanish nationally because of the Tea Party. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #274
agreed. Can see this happening. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #427
It's the nature of the system to destroy such ideals... countryjake Dec 2013 #277
199 recs and counting. woo me with science Dec 2013 #296
Me think's some of them are their own enablers. Phlem Dec 2013 #305
This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #351
It's coming indeed - After years of slavish devotion all I can say is whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #359
We need to get our local elections back, then states back. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #368
I think gerrymandering has to be ended, also cprise Dec 2013 #462
We, as a nation, then are screwed. donheld Dec 2013 #370
. donheld Dec 2013 #372
. L0oniX Dec 2013 #450
Anyone who knows the difference between the two parties and wants equality for all and cares Sparky 1 Dec 2013 #373
These people are the reason the Democratic Party nearly went extinct in the 70s and 80s... Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #378
You guys really need to update your bullshit talking points Union Scribe Dec 2013 #479
LOL so your point isn't even consistent then... Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #484
Interesting you lump moderates and conservatives together. Union Scribe Dec 2013 #485
You didn't 'turn out as always'. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #501
Here's the ACTUAL story Union Scribe Dec 2013 #503
You proved my point - liberals don't turnout. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #525
BS. bvar22 Jan 2014 #707
I showed you proof... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #711
You haven't "shown" anybody anything. bvar22 Jan 2014 #717
You lose. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #718
Oh here we go again with TeaLeft extremism. Good. Stay home and BITCH again. Then when the ReSCUM RBInMaine Dec 2013 #379
moderates lost Dems 2010 Union Scribe Dec 2013 #387
Progressives are the Tparty's worst nightmare fadedrose Dec 2013 #389
Voting for a third Party is throwing away your vote. another_liberal Dec 2013 #390
What else is there? fadedrose Dec 2013 #394
You will only be helping a Republican win the White House. another_liberal Dec 2013 #398
That's my hunch too.... fadedrose Dec 2013 #405
The "3rd Way" is the old DLC. bvar22 Dec 2013 #591
"sorry" is the right word... fadedrose Dec 2013 #393
I think the only difference between the third way and Republicans is Phlem Dec 2013 #455
Well done! another_liberal Dec 2013 #545
years mtasselin Dec 2013 #395
Happy to kick this great OP and wonderful thread. DUer RC created this graphic to describe ... Scuba Dec 2013 #403
+ a few million. A perfect graphic! solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #424
+1 Nailed it. ^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX Dec 2013 #426
So Spot on! Phlem Dec 2013 #457
"Most Democrats do not want to hear this and refuse to accept that it will happen" Progressive dog Dec 2013 #407
Why be anti left Dem? What is it that causes Dems to move right instead of left? L0oniX Dec 2013 #432
Because the third way trolls will berate you on DU. Phlem Dec 2013 #458
"What is it that causes Dems to move right instead of left?" winter is coming Dec 2013 #471
death by a thousand cuts. Phlem Dec 2013 #516
A democracy is based on majority rule, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #556
Now that's funny. majority rule? Phlem Dec 2013 #558
As we've had for over two hundred years, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #571
... Phlem Dec 2013 #599
Most inteligent people know that the majority is not always correct. L0oniX Dec 2013 #562
Democracy allows even the most ignorant to vote, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #570
"Democracy allows even the most ignorant to vote" L0oniX Dec 2013 #572
Absolutely, and you have a problem Progressive dog Dec 2013 #573
Why bother discussing anything with a 3rd way corporate centrist. L0oniX Dec 2013 #576
I don't know, When you learn to discuss anything with anyone, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #578
If democracy enables the 1% control our government and ignorant minds then it has failed... L0oniX Dec 2013 #580
I just wanted you to admit your dislike of democracy, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #585
I'm sure you know that this political message board is for progressives and not just democrats... L0oniX Dec 2013 #587
US progressives believe in our form of government, Progressive dog Dec 2013 #590
Project much? L0oniX Dec 2013 #592
"Project much?" Progressive dog Dec 2013 #594
I'll stop with this... you can go on ...but I'm done with responding to you. Not worth my free time. L0oniX Dec 2013 #596
If argument is measured by volume, you win Progressive dog Dec 2013 #603
They also know that enough money can convince the minority that they're the majority. winter is coming Dec 2013 #695
It's time, beacuse the 3rd way is the wrong way. raindaddy Dec 2013 #408
Run progresive candidates and I'll vote for them. 99Forever Dec 2013 #409
Don't try to convince me that I should take one for the team by voting for politicians GoneFishin Dec 2013 #411
Thank you for saying this Kentuck. dotymed Dec 2013 #412
Sounds like libdude Dec 2013 #428
it has long been inevitable stupidicus Dec 2013 #431
Just an observation, reading through these responses. woo me with science Dec 2013 #435
Mike Gravel said it: "Follow the Money!" L0oniX Dec 2013 #441
I love Mike Gravel. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #464
We need him in office. L0oniX Dec 2013 #469
Always about money. Always. woo me with science Dec 2013 #618
Great post, as usual - I would just suggest one thing... polichick Dec 2013 #445
Message was hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Dec 2013 #448
I think you are right about needing to do an end run. woo me with science Dec 2013 #616
I think that it is perhaps more fundamentally about corporations than money Agony Dec 2013 #452
I agree it's a worthwhile effort. woo me with science Dec 2013 #619
The League of Women Voters "Nailed It" back in 1988... bvar22 Dec 2013 #472
+1 This should be its own op. L0oniX Dec 2013 #586
Excellent post. woo me with science Dec 2013 #615
Excellent reminder....and it was a loss when we look at the way the debates KoKo Dec 2013 #690
"It's About The Money!" Shhhh..... KoKo Dec 2013 #689
There is no way that Dems escape their RW "corporate phase" without a paying a price Teamster Jeff Dec 2013 #446
Jeff, the Teamsters are paying a price for their "corporate phase" c'est pas. n/t saidsimplesimon Dec 2013 #456
We don't provide most of the money to the Party, but we are essential to its electability. leveymg Dec 2013 #453
Thank you kentuck, speaking for myself, saidsimplesimon Dec 2013 #460
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #466
nothing PatrynXX Dec 2013 #468
Wish I could give this another Rec. bvar22 Dec 2013 #473
Yes. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #476
Were tired of these threats. Just leave and join the Green Party treestar Dec 2013 #491
Judging by your active participation in this thread Union Scribe Dec 2013 #495
I'm not threatening to leave the party for the nine millionth time treestar Dec 2013 #502
OMG Phlem Dec 2013 #561
We ARE the Party! Who is this 'we' you are talking about? You don't seem comfortable here among sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #706
(snicker) BKH70041 Dec 2013 #494
Crass bobduca Dec 2013 #684
So you are saying this because of the Tea Party? Rex Dec 2013 #499
K & R democrank Dec 2013 #504
Seems a long time coming. nt Deep13 Dec 2013 #526
Do whatever you damn well please and form another party. Beacool Dec 2013 #527
It's ours. We're taking back the keys. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #528
No, it isn't. Beacool Dec 2013 #529
It's our turn. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #530
No, it belongs to the people. Not the groups that pull out Koch money... woo me with science Dec 2013 #546
Ha! Phlem Dec 2013 #559
That’s the illusion of any real difference speaking, backed up by no real change. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #534
That's all you have? Fear? Nothing about how your candidate... polichick Dec 2013 #551
"My candidate" hasn't even announced that she's running. Beacool Dec 2013 #553
If she does run and become prez, will she put the people ahead of corporations? polichick Dec 2013 #554
Crickets. Phlem Dec 2013 #560
Yeah, even her supporters know who would come first in an HRC admin. polichick Dec 2013 #563
No it isn't. sagat Dec 2013 #531
Agreed. As many Democrats say they support Hillary as supported any Democratic Presidential stevenleser Dec 2013 #535
Well then IMO we have something in common with the 1% and the corporations. L0oniX Dec 2013 #598
If corporate Hillary wins don't blame me. I won't vote for her under any circumstances. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #542
That's what the Tea Party said about Romney, and look how well it turned out for them. Beacool Dec 2013 #552
GOTV is now the problem, since the 'beaten downs' know the rich and their two parties don't need ancianita Dec 2013 #544
lord have mercy arely staircase Dec 2013 #557
K&R for pissing off all the RIGHT people! Rex Dec 2013 #568
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #577
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #593
The OP and this whole thread is pretty sickening Sheepshank Dec 2013 #595
Post any kind of divisive %$&* stirring and the usual folks get in line to lick the spoon. great white snark Dec 2013 #620
What's funny is watching the numbskulls call those NOT in favor of burning Number23 Dec 2013 #627
I KNOW!!! bvar22 Dec 2013 #632
May your 2014 be better than your 2013. Number23 Dec 2013 #634
What do you expect from people that believe 5 people trump 300? Rex Dec 2013 #638
This thread is a perfect showcase. bvar22 Dec 2013 #651
Extremely important statement. Feral Child Dec 2013 #610
Great job Kentuck! Phlem Dec 2013 #611
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Dec 2013 #662
Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers: "Real Change Is Closer Than You Think" proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #621
Good to see this OP still going strong. Autumn Dec 2013 #624
Who is on or 'not on' the REC list is an interesting read. I'm in. eom Purveyor Dec 2013 #628
Waaaa waaaaaa!! Mommy, daddy! The bad thread won't stop! Rex Dec 2013 #629
LOL... bvar22 Jan 2014 #714
We should keep this thread kicked all of 2014! Rex Jan 2014 #724
You guys rock DU. The Democratic Party? Not so much. Looks like you marshalled all the forces.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #635
Oh my God, that graphic sums up this thread so perfectly Number23 Dec 2013 #637
300 recs = an "illusion" of grandeur. Hell, you could pick up 300 recs from the tree place, y'know? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #639
ROFLLL at that pic!!! Girl, your graphics hit HOME every single time. Number23 Dec 2013 #640
Another kick so the RIGHT people don't miss this thread! Rex Dec 2013 #636
K & R. n/t GoneFishin Dec 2013 #642
I'm sorry, as a minority lgbt female, I do not have any choice but to vote for Democrats. If Zorra Dec 2013 #643
That is exactly what they are "banking" you will think. bvar22 Dec 2013 #645
I'm sure you're aware that I know that. My hope is that we can Zorra Dec 2013 #653
That's a powerful visual - disgusting, but powerful. polichick Jan 2014 #713
K&R Crewleader Dec 2013 #658
Happy New Year, Old Friend! kentuck Dec 2013 #659
You speak the truth my friend Crewleader Dec 2013 #674
another kick so minority gets it. Phlem Dec 2013 #663
I think that's a load of horse shit Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #667
You're a "moderate". You're part of the problem. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #694
moderates pay the bills Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #699
I think most of us realized TBF Dec 2013 #671
Could you provide a list of approved Democrats XRubicon Dec 2013 #675
This implies that there is no difference between republicans and Democrats, and I reject that lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #676
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Dec 2013 #678
Sensitive aren't you. I did NOT imply you should or should not leave, YOU DID in your OP. lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #679
I'm just sick of people that cannot or will not fight back. kentuck Dec 2013 #680
I agree. Bill Clinton, I believe, set the foundation for where the Democratic party is today, lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #681
So Bill Clinton Democrats "left" the Democratic Party? kentuck Dec 2013 #682
He definitely moved it to the right, and his policies of deregulation were right out of lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #683
l hope Warren runs too XRubicon Dec 2013 #685
I think so too. At the very least her candidacy would force an honesty on the other candidates lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #686
I believed the same about Kucinich's candidacy. bvar22 Dec 2013 #691
You have a point, but I think it might be different with Warren, maybe wishful thinking lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #704
You have a point too. bvar22 Jan 2014 #708
Kentuck, dear one... fadedrose Dec 2013 #693
I think some folks will realize... kentuck Dec 2013 #696
How bout that list? XRubicon Dec 2013 #697
If you don't know, I can't help you. kentuck Dec 2013 #698
I thought you knew who the good Democrats are??? XRubicon Dec 2013 #700
If they have a "D" by their name...? kentuck Dec 2013 #701
Thanks, Happy New Year XRubicon Dec 2013 #702
Who are the good Democrats? bvar22 Jan 2014 #733
Now we are getting somewhere XRubicon Jan 2014 #738
Funny post kentuck messiah Dec 2013 #703
This is worth kicking into the New Year. bvar22 Jan 2014 #709
MUHAHAHAHA YOU FOOLS! TPTB ARE TAKING OVER WITH THE CENTRIST PARTY! L0oniX Jan 2014 #710
K&R - This thread has been around for days now... Jasana Jan 2014 #712
THere is no Backlash from the Left , most are working within the party or on their own JI7 Jan 2014 #722
What a thread! nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #723
EJ Dionne has a good editorial on the reemergence of a Democratic left Gothmog Jan 2014 #730
Excellent points YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #734
Morning kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #732
Afternoon kick. Autumn Jan 2014 #737
Evening kick. Phlem Jan 2014 #739
See post 738 XRubicon Jan 2014 #740
Who ever replied to this, your on IGNORE. Phlem Jan 2014 #741
I knew that you had me on ignore, you are afraid of ideas... XRubicon Jan 2014 #742
kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #743
kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #744
kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #745
Wanted to KICK this important thread. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #746
kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #747
kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #748
Happy to see this inspiring thread again! polichick Jan 2014 #749
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