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MADem

(135,425 posts)
140. I avoid the gun discussions precisely because they are too contentious!
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 01:59 PM
Jan 2014

I got in a discussion there once a while ago, in the old DU, and boy did my head hurt! That's a bit too rich for my blood, as they say.

We had another person back in that old DU who had the same approach, a lawyer from Canada, she styled herself (though she couldn't have practiced much law because she was on the internet all the time), who had a blazing affection for the very same two forums; can't remember her name but she got PPR'd after doing much the same thing for a long, long time--fighting with everyone, ascribing false views to people, being incredibly rude...she'd try to wear people down with a continuous assault of invective. Of course, now that we have the jury system, that full on kind of approach doesn't work anymore--good thing!

Though we all may not own a gun, we each do have a gender (a rare few more than one) and if we're to live together on this big blue marble and keep humanity going, it's not helpful to start phony "wars" over things that we all agree on--and the overwhelming majority of DUers are good, decent people who respect women, AND men, AND children, AND the elderly, and aren't hateful misogynists/misandrists who view every waking moment as a battle against an unseen "opponent" of the opposite gender. This attitude is just absurd, and when complete strangers are made "the enemy" and accused in that fashion it just really makes DU suck.

What in the world is the point of this poll, except to start things up again? HERVEPA Jan 2014 #1
Well, if we all agree, then there will be no dispute. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #2
Well there's always the argument about who agrees more el_bryanto Jan 2014 #3
maybe even worse geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9
and the way to end that one, is, of course, "and rightly so" HERVEPA Jan 2014 #14
The fact that pintobean Jan 2014 #4
What is the point about the poll about fat jokes? BainsBane Jan 2014 #7
Well said. nt Zorra Jan 2014 #31
That's the point Renew Deal Jan 2014 #27
Where's the "Oh geez, not THIS SHIT AGAIN" response? MADem Jan 2014 #5
certainly they should be hidden regardless of to whom they're applied, no? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #10
Well, we could make a list, and check it twice, if you'd like. Do you think that would MADem Jan 2014 #22
Cool Story, Bro BainsBane Jan 2014 #16
Excuse me? This predated your arrival here--at least according to your profile. MADem Jan 2014 #21
Who PPRed the person? BainsBane Jan 2014 #56
It wasn't MIRT--the person was a DUer who had been here for awhile. MADem Jan 2014 #63
The chromosomal deformity is a reference to a piece in the Onion BainsBane Jan 2014 #66
Well, it's not "funny" and it really should be put on the list of banned words and phrases. MADem Jan 2014 #72
! opiate69 Jan 2014 #73
Merci, mille fois! nt MADem Jan 2014 #76
Well, I called one of my shotguns an "OLD whore." Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #81
+1000. You just summed up almost every post quinnox Jan 2014 #84
You mean like your poll BainsBane Jan 2014 #91
Then don't read it. Sheesh. n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #95
Show me where I accused someone of being "horrible" BainsBane Jan 2014 #94
I really dislike it when people are falsely accused--and that's happening a lot in this thread. nt MADem Jan 2014 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jan 2014 #170
I am not the one making the false accusations--you are. MADem Jan 2014 #182
"sub-group"? Really? CTyankee Jan 2014 #169
I think you might be getting annoyed without call. MADem Jan 2014 #187
The irony is thick: Your rights do not extend to telling me what I can be offended by. BainsBane Jan 2014 #87
Yes, they do--this is a discussion board, and disagreement is part of discussion. MADem Jan 2014 #89
I'll make this brief and save you time BainsBane Jan 2014 #90
You're stuck on transmit, aren't you? MADem Jan 2014 #96
Let's be clear BainsBane Jan 2014 #103
There you go again, making up attitudes and ascribing them to others--your stock in trade. MADem Jan 2014 #118
You may not know the half of it. beevul Jan 2014 #125
I avoid the gun discussions precisely because they are too contentious! MADem Jan 2014 #140
Tis iverglas you refer to. beevul Jan 2014 #141
Yes, that's the one, precisely! MADem Jan 2014 #142
Iverglas! Yes! Exactly the same style hootinholler Jan 2014 #181
I was one of the people who gave her some of that "feedback." I tried to be constructive, too. MADem Jan 2014 #183
What a great performance hootinholler Jan 2014 #188
She's one of my all-time favorites...what pipes! nt MADem Jan 2014 #189
"making DU suck" pintobean Jan 2014 #143
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Stop trying to play the victim. I pointed out your horrible behavior, and you don't like it. MADem Jan 2014 #179
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"I have every right to analyze your behavior...." MADem Jan 2014 #180
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If I am so boring, why are you hyper-posting and replying several times to a single post of mine? MADem Jan 2014 #192
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Of course I realize I'm still being ostentatiously ignored LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #173
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*yawn* LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #177
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I'm not the one trying to deny I said it. That would once again be you. LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #178
Out.Of.The.Park. N/T beevul Jan 2014 #124
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Spot on, Sir. Bravo. N/T beevul Jan 2014 #123
Boom. Inkfreak Jan 2014 #128
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Ouch mythology Jan 2014 #152
I try! MADem Jan 2014 #153
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Ooooh, some snark! MADem Jan 2014 #185
... RainDog Jan 2014 #156
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You might not realize this, because you don't read what others write very often or very thoroughly, MADem Jan 2014 #184
Cool Story Bro hootinholler Jan 2014 #30
The only point of contention BainsBane Jan 2014 #61
Again back to your black and white world view hootinholler Jan 2014 #69
It is definitely a reference to a recent statement BainsBane Jan 2014 #77
Again, context is everything hootinholler Jan 2014 #99
The context was precisely BainsBane Jan 2014 #100
For the record hootinholler Jan 2014 #105
I don't claim to know you BainsBane Jan 2014 #107
Yet people in that thread both found and accepted my apology hootinholler Jan 2014 #132
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I don't accuse you of "knowing me" hootinholler Jan 2014 #186
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Excuse me? hootinholler Jan 2014 #102
All I know is what I see you write BainsBane Jan 2014 #108
Here ya go! hootinholler Jan 2014 #24
Hee hee! nt MADem Jan 2014 #25
Thanks! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #26
same shit, different year loli phabay Jan 2014 #137
Is this about the use of "prick" on DU? polichick Jan 2014 #6
feel free to do your own poll BainsBane Jan 2014 #17
Someone had just posted that word when your thread appeared... polichick Jan 2014 #67
No, it was inspired by the Christie fat shaming poll BainsBane Jan 2014 #92
Certainly offensive and not appropriate for DU. nt DLevine Jan 2014 #8
Context. SlutWalk? Attention whore? "Karma's a bitch"? n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #11
Yes, context matters. Sissyk Jan 2014 #36
If I post elsewhere and repost here,the asterisks show up . riqster Jan 2014 #40
lol! Sissyk Jan 2014 #48
I was blasted... one_voice Jan 2014 #43
I don't get offended by it either. Sissyk Jan 2014 #46
The c word is definitly the deal breaker for me. giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #51
Oh goodie, this again n/t Kurska Jan 2014 #12
corporate whore is appropriate- snooper2 Jan 2014 #13
True - an essential term when talking about politics. polichick Jan 2014 #139
META! Iggo Jan 2014 #15
Sexist slurs will get a 'Hide' vote from me, no matter whom they're aimed at petronius Jan 2014 #18
Please indicate which of the slurs in this oh-so-earnest post would NOT result ... 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #19
I have seen all of those listed above allowed by juries BainsBane Jan 2014 #20
In context? A woman was called a whore? A slut? A bitch? And it was allowed to stand? 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #23
She's not a big fan of "attention whore", either, Bravo. opiate69 Jan 2014 #29
The word "whore" doesn't only apply to women. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #34
Yes, and to suggest that it does is rather an odd stance--especially in this day and age. nt MADem Jan 2014 #37
Agreed. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #39
yes, frequently BainsBane Jan 2014 #50
I do remember being troubled and posting about it. I just don't remember it happening often. 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #52
I think you should take her advice LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #82
Yes. Sissyk Jan 2014 #106
That is hilarious and everyone should look too. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #112
You certainly have a ..... creative way of interpreting the written word... opiate69 Jan 2014 #55
By all means, enlighten me BainsBane Jan 2014 #57
Nah.. I think for a New Year's resolution.. opiate69 Jan 2014 #59
I didn't think you could BainsBane Jan 2014 #62
... opiate69 Jan 2014 #64
+1 n/t Kurska Jan 2014 #83
rofl, never seen that before but its spot on. loli phabay Jan 2014 #138
The C word still stands on another thread on page one. Pathwalker Jan 2014 #28
I took the gamble and lost. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #33
This is why I no longer alert OR spend much time here, either. Pathwalker Jan 2014 #44
Wow. PassingFair Jan 2014 #68
In the example you cite, the term is used in isolation. No one is being labeled with the slur. 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #45
IMO, there is no proper context for that word. Pathwalker Jan 2014 #49
So if I were to post that ... 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #54
This is why context matters. The word in question wasn't used to insult anybody. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #58
Sometimes context matters not at all. That word, alone in any context, should ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #85
Depends on the part of speech and, kiva Jan 2014 #32
Half of them do, anyway. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #35
Aaarrrggghhh! kiva Jan 2014 #47
How is this even a question? Shandris Jan 2014 #38
Yes it is relatively common BainsBane Jan 2014 #93
April 6, 2004 Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #41
I remember those--I was in read-only mode way back then, for the most part! nt MADem Jan 2014 #79
10 years... jeebus.. opiate69 Jan 2014 #80
Really depends on a case by case basis... CFLDem Jan 2014 #42
Appropriate for DU? Emphatic No. Glassunion Jan 2014 #53
Why is it that the very people that tell others to Trash Thread or put people on Ignore, never do so RC Jan 2014 #60
I don't know because I don't keep notes on people. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #71
Heh... Heh... Glassunion Jan 2014 #65
Another flamebait poll? Wonder who posted it? 99Forever Jan 2014 #70
Is this poll flamebait too? BainsBane Jan 2014 #74
Like sands through the hourglass...so are the Days of Our Lives.... MADem Jan 2014 #75
Looking into my crystal ball pintobean Jan 2014 #78
I voted! Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #86
Does that extend to racist and homophobic insutls as well? BainsBane Jan 2014 #88
I think you could get your answer by reading some stuff from the poster Scootaloo Jan 2014 #101
Well, at least that one was honest BainsBane Jan 2014 #129
Saying that your poll is shit-stirring is also an honest opinion. Bonobo Jan 2014 #136
It's just a poll people. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #98
I'm offended by all of the * goldent Jan 2014 #104
You would be surprised BainsBane Jan 2014 #110
I used them ALL below. Bonobo Jan 2014 #111
Ah, but you aren't PWF BainsBane Jan 2014 #113
Is this what you do now? Bonobo Jan 2014 #114
It is the exact same subject BainsBane Jan 2014 #116
Anthony Bourdain calls himself an "egg slut" all the time. Bonobo Jan 2014 #109
3 DU search links that tell the real story about how these words are used on DU. Bonobo Jan 2014 #115
Does that include when the host of a BainsBane Jan 2014 #117
To me you're just babbling now. Bonobo Jan 2014 #119
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #122
I start whining? BainsBane Jan 2014 #126
Keep ignoring the links that tell the real story. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #127
ouch BobUp Jan 2014 #120
I really don't care... a la izquierda Jan 2014 #121
How would you feel BainsBane Jan 2014 #146
Are any of those words being used to insult women at DU? last1standing Jan 2014 #130
Look at #115 and you'll see how they appear on DU. Bonobo Jan 2014 #131
Only if used in that context. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #133
Shouldn't there be some disclaimer it's ok if directed R's ileus Jan 2014 #134
There is an option for that in the poll BainsBane Jan 2014 #145
got it...can't believe I'm the first voter. ileus Jan 2014 #147
Are you interested in my views on that? BainsBane Jan 2014 #148
depends on context. loli phabay Jan 2014 #135
No, I think they shouldn't be used. Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #149
I'm kind of on the fence about "bitch" Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #150
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What if I only insinuated it pintobean Jan 2014 #175
in a significant minority I think sexist slurs are not cool, but should not be censored.... mike_c Jan 2014 #151
People don't want to be educated BainsBane Jan 2014 #154
Trying to force your opinion on others pintobean Jan 2014 #155
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You know hiding a post doesn't cover it up BainsBane Jan 2014 #168
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