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In reply to the discussion: Hypothetical Question: Would Obama and the Clintons be as successful if they were actually Liberal? [View all]Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)52. Or, you'll do what? You're insinuating that I will accuse someone on this board of hating the
president because he is black. That is a lie!!
I said that there is racism in the Democratic Party. That is the truth!
I said that there are liberals who are racists. That is the truth!!
What you are trying to insinuate is a lie. You need to be very careful where you go from here.
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Hypothetical Question: Would Obama and the Clintons be as successful if they were actually Liberal? [View all]
Armstead
Jan 2014
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if we accept the false premise that Obama is not a liberal. But, Obama is a liberal and
Coyotl
Jan 2014
#150
not likely. unfortunately, liberals just don't have enough institutional power these days.
unblock
Jan 2014
#2
Democrats are our own worst enemy. The so-called "corporatists" and conservatives in the House
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#8
What a line of crap. If we need our democrats to be republicans to get elected, well what's the
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2014
#63
No. Maybe Dems should not attacking their own and run more progressive candidates for office.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#119
So you're saying that there are no conservative or corporate Democrats? How is it crap?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#118
Irony of ironies is that you name yourself "Liberal_Stalwart..." at the same time denigrating
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2014
#68
No way, sure. I voted for Nader over Clinton. Twice. I voted for him over Gore a third time.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#120
only partly, and this is where the dearth of institutional liberal power comes in
unblock
Jan 2014
#17
Yes they were, and Hillary lost because when it came down to who was more Liberal on issues like
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#35
Would Obama be more popular? No! We liberals will always find something else to raise the bar...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#4
I don't think that disagreement with your premise is the equivalent of denying discussion
LanternWaste
Jan 2014
#94
Disagreement with my premise is fine. It's just the "you shouldn't complain..."
Armstead
Jan 2014
#98
Well then he has a chance now to take the bull by the horns regarding spying on the American people.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#36
The truth never hurts. But baseless lies do. They hurt this country. So who do you know
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#37
I am a black woman who saw racism in the liberal community with my own two eyes!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#45
There is racism everywhere, but you are claiming that when people disagree with this President
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#69
Talk to your friend Sid. Do you agree with him?? If so, then my premise is correct. I did not
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#128
NO I AM NOT AND SAID NO SUCH THING!!! You know it! Where did I assert that ANYONE who doesn't
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#117
come on. you always make up arguments to attribute to other people, arguments they never made. nt
dionysus
Feb 2014
#160
You denying that it's true? That truth must really hurt something awful.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#20
I don't see anything funny about laughing about racism. Nothing funny at all.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#51
Why is it that white people always want black people to prove racism?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#116
You were called the N word and spat upon by Democrats for supporting Obama?
AgingAmerican
Jan 2014
#134
You don't have to believe it. You live in a world where you don't want to believe it. That's sad.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#135
Please name specifically some of these 'people on the Left' who hate the President
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#38
I'm not referring to commentators. I'm talking about voters. Democratic voters during the primaries.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#46
That's odd, because Obama was elected by a huge margin over McCain. You would think that the 'haters
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#61
I don't doubt or question your experience. I doubt people who pose as the "liberal left" then spew
GoneFishin
Jan 2014
#66
So who are these people? On every single Liberal Blog I've ever been on, bigoted comments are
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#109
I have not seen any. My only point is that such racists are not like any liberals I know.
GoneFishin
Jan 2014
#139
Okay, I misunderstood then, thank you. My apologies and thank you for your civil response.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#141
No problem. We are nearly always on the same page. I was trying to be delicate and I muddled
GoneFishin
Jan 2014
#143
Oh, please with this victimhood mentality. No one is trying to shut down debate.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#19
Joke all you want. There is racism in the Democratic Party and on the political left.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#47
Or, you'll do what? You're insinuating that I will accuse someone on this board of hating the
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#52
Interesting. Conservatives knock anyone who isn't "pure" like them. I'm a liberal. A proud liberal.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#27
Again, nothing in Obama's two books, nothing in his voting record, nothing in his ENTIRE speech
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#50
Let's just say I disagree withn your interpretation of their message and strategy
Armstead
Jan 2014
#59
I think he was very naive to believe that the Republicans (and some Democrats) wanted to work with
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#112
'Fucking liar'. That's not an argument. See Sid's interpretation of your meaning and then get back
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#129
Post my exact words that I either implied or explicitly stated that ANYONE who disagreed with Obama
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#131
LiberalStalwart left DU over this thread. But the support she's gotten from EVERY black poster
Number23
Jan 2014
#158
Liberals/Progressives played ball in 2012....and of course you have to criticize them for that too
Armstead
Jan 2014
#60
Well, maybe there was a reason for the complaints? And yes, we are getting the message
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#142
I'd be happy if your constant whining about Democrats turned into better candidates.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#146
No, she didn't 'lose' she was a victim of the Third Way who have managed to tell the lie
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#151
I have to run, got more important things to do than sit around whining about Progressive Democratic
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#153
To my knowledge, neither of them considered nor called themselves "liberals". And if we had
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#15
My friend, you simply didn't learn about his ENTIRE political philosophy. You picked out a few issue
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#29
Of course! I'd happily attend a $10,000 a plate fundraiser if only they were more liberal. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2014
#10
One of the things i always liked about Obama was his pragmatism and willingness tro compromise
Armstead
Jan 2014
#101
Yes, I'll answer. I was a Kucinich fan. I supported him before finally moving over to Obama.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#23
There's a big difference between moderation/ compromise and driving in the wrong direction
Armstead
Jan 2014
#28
You are so right! Oh, my God. The brainwashing, anti-government, hyper-individualism has
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2014
#114
Yep. The rest is just advertising. They take whatever position is convenient.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2014
#54
the political consensus from the last three to four decades has excluded liberals and progressives
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#40
And the question is...do Brown, Warren, and Sanders have the ability to win a Presidential election?
Sancho
Jan 2014
#76