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defacto7

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33. In a lot of ways I would agree with your straightforward analysis.

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:52 AM

Feb 2014

But I neither think the OP's point of view nor a status quo point of view will suffice to reorder the balance of civilization to one that sustains peace. We can speed up a process or we can slow down a process, but the boat has already been torpedoed, we're just waiting for it to sink. Pessimistic it may be, but until we face the fact that the systems and methods of humans on this planet are not sustainable economically, politically or ecologically we will just be watching the horizon slowly rise.

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"On the fourth day, I’d be assassinated." [View all] WillyT Feb 2014 OP

More like on the 4th day WW3 would erupt CFLDem Feb 2014 #1

Which superpowers would go to war with each other? nt ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #2

Well for starters CFLDem Feb 2014 #5

Some questions... ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #9

Well CFLDem Feb 2014 #12

Thank you for the answers. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #13

Well thought out, CFL. The US, as much as some of us would like to drop out... Hekate Feb 2014 #23

I am curious MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #32

How many wars have been fought in the US? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #41

How many wars have been fought in the USA? MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #42

Like aginst Germany, Japan, N Korea, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #44

I'm having a hard tome following your direction or thoughts MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #46

That isn't surprising Progressive dog Feb 2014 #47

Nice. I should have thought MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #48

Forget it - they're Imperialists. Maedhros Feb 2014 #58

Agreed. Especially with the world so connected now, isolationism would only make it worse. 7962 Feb 2014 #63

And yet, history shows that other Empires who were 'keeping all those other places sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #24

I welcome that future pacifist empire CFLDem Feb 2014 #26

This really sums it up very well. defacto7 Feb 2014 #31

The US was the first to respond to the Tsunami of 2004. Not to mention countless others. 7962 Feb 2014 #65

Wonder how much US aid has gone to Haiti following the massive earthquake? indepat Feb 2014 #69

Seriously? You can check it out. One organization is Direct Relief International... Hekate Feb 2014 #72

Did not some Republican Congress-critter hold up the approved aid? indepat Feb 2014 #80

6 days, 6 weeks, certainly not 6 months. obxhead Feb 2014 #54

Corporations are the colonialist alfredo Feb 2014 #74

It isn't a Unipolar world though Savannahmann Feb 2014 #6

Isn't what China did with Tonga CFLDem Feb 2014 #7

Exactly the kind of thinking that IS the problem. Coyotl Feb 2014 #8

Absolutely. maddiemom Feb 2014 #20

Oh amurka the savior huh? MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #11

No not to save them CFLDem Feb 2014 #14

We don't behave. why should they? eom MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #15

I guess it's time for the talk. CFLDem Feb 2014 #19

Quoting another "realist" for you, George Kennan davekriss Feb 2014 #49

Bingo! Springslips Feb 2014 #53

We kill children in third world countries Maedhros Feb 2014 #59

I've posted this point before.... defacto7 Feb 2014 #37

And absolutely again. maddiemom Feb 2014 #21

There isn't an 800 pound gorilla. sibelian Feb 2014 #40

BS! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #56

You are making some questionable assumptions in your theory. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #57

Sounds like you would prefer another cold war where A Simple Game Feb 2014 #61

The Cold War gave us CFLDem Feb 2014 #64

In a rare moment, I am at a loss for words. But I am not surprised. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #66

Nice set of policies, except they ignore how everything works. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #3

Personally, I'd be fine with... nikto Feb 2014 #16

The would still require a compliant Congress. The President can't do it. 2014 is important. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #73

This is what NEEDS to happen. n/t PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #4

Not playing with a full deck. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #10

The US is no longer... nikto Feb 2014 #17

Actually CFLDem Feb 2014 #22

The internal Conservative response... nikto Feb 2014 #27

You can think whatever you want to. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #30

In a lot of ways I would agree with your straightforward analysis. defacto7 Feb 2014 #33

What other countries depend on us for their security? How about sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #34

+1000!!1!!11!! A voice of reason. RC Feb 2014 #43

Nice international community you got there, World. Maedhros Feb 2014 #60

Ya think? How about our just sitting here with our huge-ass nuke power? maddiemom Feb 2014 #25

Without forward deployment hiding at home behind our nuclear weapons won't work proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #35

Well, we'll certainly have to disagree about the US being the world's policemen. maddiemom Feb 2014 #38

The reality isn't just that simple out there in the big world. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #50

Many thanks for taking the time to reply and being obviously thoughtful in doing so. maddiemom Feb 2014 #62

Thanks for the reply proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #78

It is so sad to realize the stunning truth... nikto Feb 2014 #28

No they wouldn't. They have to live in this world too. RC Feb 2014 #29

Gotta read this later...watching Olympics...this looks like must read... KoKo Feb 2014 #18

What a nutjob. So what incentive would Iran have not to nuke Israel? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #36

90%??? LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #39

This was my thought as well, it would demolish the economy. Sirveri Feb 2014 #71

Deadly Democracy, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #45

Oh yeah, that's going to work! PosterChild Feb 2014 #51

A kick for Blum, even without reading. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #52

That's exactly what I'd do too. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #55

K and R frwrfpos Feb 2014 #67

reparations, eh? dionysus Feb 2014 #68

K&R ReRe Feb 2014 #70

Before we spout out that we are a superpower sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #75

k and r KentuckyWoman Feb 2014 #76

I Thought So Too... WillyT Feb 2014 #77

I like his thinking, I'll have to look into that book :) nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #79