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redqueen

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49. No no no no... this is not about being male.

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 08:00 PM

Feb 2014

These people are clinging to privilege. Many women enjoy this set up and help to prop up this aspect of patriarchy too.

You aren't clinging to any privilege so you've got absolutely no reason to identify with those that do.

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Sexual Objectivication Explained (VIDEO) [View all] Jamaal510 Feb 2014 OP

... Phentex Feb 2014 #1

Excellent video, Jamaal BainsBane Feb 2014 #2

Fantastic Video ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #3

Very well done theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #4

K&R redqueen Feb 2014 #5

K&R sheshe2 Feb 2014 #6

K&R In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #7

Kick redqueen Feb 2014 #8

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #9

Did you watch the video? redqueen Feb 2014 #10

That's all I got. reusrename Feb 2014 #11

Did you watch the video? redqueen Feb 2014 #14

Why would she fard if not to objectify herself? reusrename Feb 2014 #18

So no, you didn't watch it. redqueen Feb 2014 #21

of course I watched it reusrename Feb 2014 #27

If so then you failed spectacularly in your effort to comprehend it. redqueen Feb 2014 #38

Damn ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #41

This kind of conflation is extremely common. redqueen Feb 2014 #46

I guess they completely miss the 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #48

The messages in culture and media overwhelmingly reinforce that it is true. redqueen Feb 2014 #64

I think we just disagree, that's all. reusrename Feb 2014 #47

NO SHE'S NOT!!!!! 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #50

Objectification is not an aspect of sexuality. It's a type of oppression. redqueen Feb 2014 #52

What specifically (and relevantly) leads you to believe that? LanternWaste Feb 2014 #60

you think women put on makeup to objectify themselves ? JI7 Feb 2014 #30

I think they do it for all sorts of reasons. reusrename Feb 2014 #36

so fucking what ? what has any of that got to do with not being seen as an object ? JI7 Feb 2014 #37

So it fucking WORKS, that's what. reusrename Feb 2014 #53

What fucking works? Are you under some delusion sufrommich Feb 2014 #57

seems to be an attempt to fight back against the message JI7 Feb 2014 #23

No, of course they don't realize it. redqueen Feb 2014 #43

I'm hoping ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #39

Thanks for providing an example nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #13

What an incredibly trollish remark. Save this idiocy for sufrommich Feb 2014 #16

Why be an ass? Nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #20

... cyberswede Feb 2014 #28

Disgusting, shameful, idiotic, self-involved post. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #55

That was excellent. Speak up! k&r. sufrommich Feb 2014 #12

Am I being obtuse by pointing out what seems ironic to me? idendoit Feb 2014 #15

It only seems ironic because you're still not getting it. redqueen Feb 2014 #17

What is make up about, if not to objectify one's sexuality by enhancing it? idendoit Feb 2014 #29

Maybe you should watch it again. redqueen Feb 2014 #35

Ouch ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #44

No no no no... this is not about being male. redqueen Feb 2014 #49

Great post. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #59

I took your advice. idendoit Feb 2014 #63

There are a dozen or so links to further reading after that video. redqueen Feb 2014 #85

Yes, make up is definitely permission to objectify sufrommich Feb 2014 #19

That would be stupid. She can wear what she wants meaning clothes or make up for HER, seabeyond Feb 2014 #22

As she said, feeling attractive and finding someone else attractive BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

Does feeling attractve happen in a vacuum? idendoit Feb 2014 #34

So what is your argument BainsBane Feb 2014 #40

Should I never objectify someone, in my mind, because of what they do? idendoit Feb 2014 #69

To objectify is to remove subjectivity. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #75

So than what is the point of her, do as I say, idendoit Feb 2014 #82

uhmmmm. mercuryblues Feb 2014 #83

Great post. It's a shame it has to be said, sufrommich Feb 2014 #84

thank you mercuryblues Feb 2014 #86

Finding a person attractive is not objectification. Asking them out is not objectification either. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #94

that makes no fucking sense at all, her point was that women should not be objectified JI7 Feb 2014 #26

What makes no sense is the doublethink. reusrename Feb 2014 #31

You didn't watch the video, did you? BainsBane Feb 2014 #32

Oh, I think I hear it. reusrename Feb 2014 #45

"makes herself look sexually available" why do you think it's about offering something to you ? JI7 Feb 2014 #51

Reminds me of a comment the cavers made about me BainsBane Feb 2014 #56

and it sounded just as creepy and disgusting JI7 Feb 2014 #58

Yep BainsBane Feb 2014 #61

I'm thinking you are right about this not being a coincidence. R B Garr Feb 2014 #72

I wish that explained it all BainsBane Feb 2014 #73

That's what bugs me. The ones that automatically think it's just for them ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #65

Clearly you understood nothing you heard BainsBane Feb 2014 #54

I think it is difficult hfojvt Feb 2014 #71

It's not black and white like that. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #77

it's so diffuse though hfojvt Feb 2014 #78

We have a culture that makes female caregiving overly pronounced. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #79

This is true JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #89

Correct. Married women do not have increased life spans. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #91

"Sexually available"? You have an almost bizarrely low threshold for that... Just saying... nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #96

What???? gollygee Feb 2014 #101

WTF ? she never said one should never try to be attractive , that has nothing to do with being JI7 Feb 2014 #33

Being sexual and being sexual attractive is not the same as being a sexual object gollygee Feb 2014 #88

Question. Iggo Feb 2014 #74

Yes. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #76

You're using the make up to avoid hearing what she said treestar Feb 2014 #103

That was an excellent video, thanks for posting it nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #25

The reletive comfort level of posters trolling this thread sufrommich Feb 2014 #42

That they are is reinforcing my belief that many males are Broken Men. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #62

Hardly surprising given that we live in a Broken Culture Fumesucker Feb 2014 #67

Good video! wendylaroux Feb 2014 #66

Good video, mainly aimed at men in our society ... however, would like to see video ... MindMover Feb 2014 #68

Fabulous. K&R (n/t) MadrasT Feb 2014 #70

K & R Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #80

kick redqueen Feb 2014 #81

well done! G_j Feb 2014 #87

kick BainsBane Feb 2014 #90

K&R Whisp Feb 2014 #92

This is no different than..... idendoit Feb 2014 #93

How do you recognize a $5000 suit? Phentex Feb 2014 #95

So if a woman is attractive gollygee Feb 2014 #97

I don't get the analogy either... Is he admitting that she's far better-looking than he is? nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #99

Exactly, no she can't treestar Feb 2014 #104

I think you just summed up sexism gollygee Feb 2014 #105

WTF? Just when I thought I'd seen people pull the most ridiculous analogies out of their asses nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #98

great video! thanks for posting eShirl Feb 2014 #100

Here's another good one. KitSileya Feb 2014 #102