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I would suggest just reading it, and not applying it topically jberryhill Feb 2014 #1
I love you. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #82
Now I'll NEVER get a cake in Arizona jberryhill Feb 2014 #85
I hear the best ones are the ones they make at the teabagger concentration camps. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #87
Come to Idaho, and I'll be happy to make you a penis-shaped cake jmowreader Feb 2014 #108
If you knew I was coming... jberryhill Feb 2014 #109
When you do Champagne and Coeur d'Alene, let me know jmowreader Feb 2014 #110
I thought Idaho WAS a penis-shaped cake! Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #115
Shame on you jmowreader Feb 2014 #116
The response is, "Why not build yourself up, instead of bringing others down? Maybe you're not Brickbat Feb 2014 #2
Yep. cyberswede Feb 2014 #6
I remember back before george w bu$h readjusted the economy, government workers made less, often way RC Feb 2014 #59
Which is why I *NEVER* understood the logic behind the Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #25
The ragefests are being cultivated by the corporations. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #70
Nope. I love me my sportsers; however, I think they are all overpaid. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #89
Jealousy is much easier to use than logic when marketing a product. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2014 #32
Also, LOL at "forklift" = "heavy machinery." Brickbat Feb 2014 #3
Me too sharp_stick Feb 2014 #7
Running a forklift means that someone is sitting on their butt all day. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #14
You do not know what you are talking about. MicaelS Feb 2014 #61
You are full of crap. People are killed driving forklifts. MicaelS Feb 2014 #42
Thank you. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #50
A thank you from me too hibbing Feb 2014 #69
And bullshit back to you. People are killed and injured working in the food service industry also. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #81
No, I'm not. MicaelS Feb 2014 #92
You know what, I've seen people sit on their butts all day doing nothing in both blue collar TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #103
You did see the point where I said "working class" right? MicaelS Feb 2014 #105
I guess that the definition of "working class" is where we disagree. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #106
lol, yeah. Marr Feb 2014 #11
It would be pretty "heavy" if it slammed into you at full speed Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #13
LOL. Brickbat Feb 2014 #20
Not defending this douche but some forklifts are heavy machinery progressoid Feb 2014 #21
It is heavy machinery. RC Feb 2014 #65
So what would happen to the minimum wage for tipped employees? badtoworse Feb 2014 #4
That hasn't been raised in thirty years, it is still $2.15 Bandit Feb 2014 #23
Then the higher minimum wage would not apply to them badtoworse Feb 2014 #24
Not in Washington State it's not Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #28
Each state has their own minimums but I was referring to the Federal one Bandit Feb 2014 #33
In Washington tipped employees make the same minimum wage trixicopper Feb 2014 #41
Line cook was the hardest job I ever had. tridim Feb 2014 #5
At bare minimum, you have to get certified as a fork lift operator Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #19
"Nonsense." redqueen Feb 2014 #46
BOOM! 7962 Feb 2014 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #76
PW, I'm often on your side; but I drove a fork lift in Chapel Hill, NC, to supplement ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #43
It remained that way in Ohio into the late 1980s. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #74
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #49
Rubs me the wrong way, too Rider3 Feb 2014 #9
Not to mention... "Maybe you should be making more than you do now"... JHB Feb 2014 #10
Hmmmm, living wage for ALL JJChambers Feb 2014 #12
Amen.... daleanime Feb 2014 #39
YES! 1000% YES! fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #79
I really wonder how many of those comments TBF Feb 2014 #15
sadly, i know some family members who just that stupid. they see anything that helps people less off dionysus Feb 2014 #29
You said it. It's a widespread phenomenon. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #78
why thank you! dionysus Feb 2014 #86
We know for a fact that these discussion groups Enthusiast Feb 2014 #75
Agree 100% nt TBF Feb 2014 #98
I understand why this bothers you, but from a practical standpoint, hughee99 Feb 2014 #16
Divide and conquer. woo me with science Feb 2014 #17
+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #80
A forklift ain't a Boeing 747. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #18
Insufficient Data Token Republican Feb 2014 #22
If her job truly is worth more than minimum wage, then her income would be going up too. jeff47 Feb 2014 #34
That hasn't ever been the case for wages going up. It's a myth. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #47
No, you're talking about a different statistics. jeff47 Feb 2014 #52
No. I'm talking about minimum wage. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #63
Then you're wrong. jeff47 Feb 2014 #77
You're arguing against your own arguments. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #91
No, that would be you. jeff47 Feb 2014 #100
Doh! fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #104
Not necessarily Token Republican Feb 2014 #62
Whether or not her company is profitable doesn't change what the job is worth. jeff47 Feb 2014 #72
Respectfully disagree Token Republican Feb 2014 #94
That picture of Data is causing my MicaelS Feb 2014 #44
Deleted Token Republican Feb 2014 #53
Thank you. MicaelS Feb 2014 #60
Try this edhopper Feb 2014 #26
I would still tip, but B2G Feb 2014 #27
Me neither.... I'm a generous tipper partly because I know they get paid crap... Adrahil Feb 2014 #36
Anyone arguing against raising minimum wage... Orrex Feb 2014 #30
How would the critics here feel if we raised wait staff to 15 while lowering teachers to match... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #31
In any job, you pay a premium for training and skill. jeff47 Feb 2014 #35
Concur.... though I have had waiters that were definitely what I'd call "skilled." Adrahil Feb 2014 #37
Correct. But those criticizing this woman seem to feel HER training and skill are irrelevant... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #38
No, we're criticizing her because she doesn't realize that training premium would still exist. jeff47 Feb 2014 #40
It doesn't actually work that way... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #51
That's why I said it isn't linear. jeff47 Feb 2014 #66
pwnage. nice. dionysus Feb 2014 #84
response.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #93
Sooooo much wrong in one place. jeff47 Feb 2014 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #54
Jeff's right. ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #58
that's the exact argument RWers use, your slip is showing... dionysus Feb 2014 #88
Is it? How about adress the point... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #97
I believe the RW term was used because it takes a special person fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #99
So apply it consistently. That's what everyone is dancing around... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #111
I never said those things. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #113
If that waiter doesn't handle her food properly, she could be crapping and puking and MADem Feb 2014 #45
And that is why we should be paying these people more! liberal N proud Feb 2014 #48
I agree. I think a fifteen dollar minimum wage is not unreasonable. MADem Feb 2014 #102
A higher minimum wage will put upward pressure on wages My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #55
That's kind of a sad attitude gollygee Feb 2014 #56
A forklift is certainly NOT heavy machinery. AAO Feb 2014 #57
I tip because... ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #64
I ran a forklift for a while. It wasn't very challenging. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #67
Maybe she should be making more than servers. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #71
If the person is not happy, then why doesn't the person become a waiter. Salaries are determined by lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #73
Not under a minimum wage law, they aren't. N.T Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #90
Of course it needs to go up. But I dont think it should go up a lot INSTANTLY. 7962 Feb 2014 #83
If her jealousy gets the better of her arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #95
Is $15 on the table? I thought it was $10 being discussed? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #96
The correct answer is..... CANDO Feb 2014 #107
too bad greed blinds people frwrfpos Feb 2014 #112
The woman is missing the whole point, that she's worked for 6 years mountain grammy Feb 2014 #114
the person who said that is likely to give zero tip in any case. yurbud Feb 2014 #117
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