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12. Well, the "we" is the United States. If you mean who is the "we" in terms of individual members

Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:50 PM

Mar 2014

of the armed forces I would say my family. My grandfather, CSM US Army WWII, Korea, Vietnam x 3, My father USAF 22 yrs Vietnam, Grenada My brother in law,30 yrs US Army and USAR Iraq, Afghanistan.
While I don't want anyone to die in conflict, and i'm aware of the suffering that causes, we're naive to think that no one will be hurt if we don't go to war. We want to protect our children, I guess the question is how is the world the best place for them? It's not as simple as if we don't go to war the world will stay the same and everything will be better.
Clearly the situation in Iraq wasn't worthy of invasion, but there's a consequence to not doing something just as there are consequences to taking action. I'm saying that we should consider the cost of use the military and the cost of not using it. IMHO It's the only way we'll
lessen our dependence on military action.

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Are You Tired of Being the World's Policeman? [View all] yellowwoodII Mar 2014 OP

I resent the taxes I pay being used for their war games. L0oniX Mar 2014 #1

+1 Go Vols Mar 2014 #2

So tired whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #3

I'm not an isolationist by any stretch, but shit! Aristus Mar 2014 #4

One can be sure some in the MIC are cranking the numbers on profitability scenarios! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #5

Seeing as how our "protection" of countries is like the Mafia's "protection" of businesses... Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #6

+1 n/t whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #7

The common mistake I think we all make is assuming if we weren't the "world's policeman" that the okaawhatever Mar 2014 #8

Who Is the "We" Kemosabe? yellowwoodII Mar 2014 #10

The 'we' would be the same people as the 'our' referred to, in your own OP muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #11

Thank you, that was really bugging me as I read. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #14

Well, the "we" is the United States. If you mean who is the "we" in terms of individual members okaawhatever Mar 2014 #12

Grenada was worthy of an invasion? malaise Mar 2014 #26

What was the purpose of Vietnam where we lost over 50,000 lives and they fought back sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #34

I'm not saying there is a valid justification for Vietnam or Iraq, but your assumption that none of okaawhatever Mar 2014 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #36

Strange that nobody even tried to answer your question mythology Mar 2014 #37

Is grits groceries? Lasher Mar 2014 #9

Thoroughly. calimary Mar 2014 #13

Interesting that this is the focus of some during Russias unprovoked war of aggression. stevenleser Mar 2014 #15

We object to war crimes again? JoeyT Mar 2014 #24

That line of reasoning does not work with individual citizens. I am not the government or the Bush stevenleser Mar 2014 #27

I meant our government objecting to them. JoeyT Mar 2014 #29

But the OP was about what we as individuals think as was my response. stevenleser Mar 2014 #31

When corporations, oligarchs and the surveillance Aerows Mar 2014 #16

You and Cleita nailed it malaise Mar 2014 #28

I don't really see it that way. I see it as using our military and young people Cleita Mar 2014 #17

And the US and EU are in there, meddling with all their might Demeter Mar 2014 #18

There has been talk that many of the conditions that started WW1 are Cleita Mar 2014 #20

With our funding, intelligence support, propaganda, etc Demeter Mar 2014 #21

99% of the time that is what starts wars, protecting nations' business interests. liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #23

Or wanting to plunder their natural resources. eom Cleita Mar 2014 #32

ya. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #19

Not policemen, stormtroopers! Demeter Mar 2014 #22

as long as we spend more on the military than the most of the rest of the world combined usa liberal Mar 2014 #25

Why, yes! Yes, I am. Octafish Mar 2014 #30

Take care of our own first. jsr Mar 2014 #33

And like many policmen, also the leading gangster. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #35

immensely tired, sick and broke. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #39

The world's corrupt cops is more like it Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #40

Yeah. I have flat feet from walking the beat. Wait. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #41