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4. Moral statements are not going to sway Putin.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:46 AM
Mar 2014

Only consequences will.

Not particularly interested in our government sending moral messages, rather in seeing our government preventing bad behavior on its own part as well as other nations.

"No way, Jose. Smirk." - George AWOL Bush (R) & Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney (R) Berlum Mar 2014 #1
Chicken Hawks enrage me. They are beyond contempt. These two are the worst. kairos12 Mar 2014 #47
I thought you were SpiralHawk 4_TN_TITANS Mar 2014 #58
........ trusty elf Mar 2014 #72
What color are unicorns? FSogol Mar 2014 #2
Nine. Orrex Mar 2014 #9
Smells like 9. FSogol Mar 2014 #10
Smells like 9 but taste like 2. zeemike Mar 2014 #41
Feels like Tuesday. FSogol Mar 2014 #44
Invisible pink Fumesucker Mar 2014 #12
Your post is offensive to Pastafarians. Jim Lane Mar 2014 #55
Rainbow and chrome, of course Scootaloo Mar 2014 #60
Pink and fluffy. Must dance on rainbows. mwooldri Mar 2014 #71
Putin wouldn't give a shit. cali Mar 2014 #3
Then why bother making any moral statments at all? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #7
Agreed ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #15
A far stronger moral statement would be unacceptable to most here. Igel Mar 2014 #29
WTF? Was there genocide happening in Ukraine like there was under Milosevic? KittyWampus Mar 2014 #30
I wouldn't be averse to that if you include everyone Fumesucker Mar 2014 #31
Not all Dems thought that the Kosovo business was a good idea. amandabeech Mar 2014 #43
The 1st Gulf War? freebrew Mar 2014 #79
Moral statements are not going to sway Putin. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #4
You wouldn't see such a move as in any way preventing bad behavior? n/t Fumesucker Mar 2014 #5
On whose part? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6
On the part of war criminals.. Fumesucker Mar 2014 #8
more likely, it would embolden the next Republican who takes office geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
It's always easier to see the mote in another's eye than the beam in your own Fumesucker Mar 2014 #13
indeed. Republicans would not view a Bush prosecution geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16
I thought Putin was the enemy? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #18
To paraphrase Tina Turner, what's morality geek tragedy Mar 2014 #24
What does morality have to do with Putin invading Crimea? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #26
No, the problem is that it undermines modern international geek tragedy Mar 2014 #27
And why is it that states are not allowed to invade, conquor or annex other states? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #28
War is to be discouraged, nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #38
Why should war be discouraged? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #68
if you need explanations as to why war should be avoided, I suggest geek tragedy Mar 2014 #70
I'm interested in your thoughts on the matter Fumesucker Mar 2014 #73
let's see, death, poverty, disease, rape, environmental degradation, geek tragedy Mar 2014 #74
And what do all those things have in common? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #75
they're caused by war. the Socratic method is tedious, got anything else?nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #76
You really can't help yourself, can you? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #77
Reality check proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #19
No, the problem is that people let *their* *own* politicians off the hook for this kind of thing Fumesucker Mar 2014 #21
(Sounds like Will Shakespeare to me) ReRe Mar 2014 #49
Putin = Take the food away from a cub in front of a Mother Bear (Russia).... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #36
As Shakespeare said, "Discretion is the better part of valor." JEB Mar 2014 #40
If Russia is a mother bear, the US is a bull elephant. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #69
How many fight-to-the-death maulings can a bull elephant take? Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #81
On the contrary malaise Mar 2014 #66
Here's what crossed my mind yesterday... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #14
Russia puts the US strategic weapons in check Fumesucker Mar 2014 #17
Seen these? Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #23
And all of this is based on their perception of us. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #20
Exactly.. Fumesucker Mar 2014 #22
All things being equal, Russia, India and China are not allies ... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #25
Indeed Fumesucker Mar 2014 #34
This chart brings us to the second tier of war criminals Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #62
Except that India is strengthening their military ties to the US to counter China hack89 Mar 2014 #45
Agreed. See post #25. But alliances in a time of war can shift... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #48
India does not care about Russia hack89 Mar 2014 #50
I suspect they may care a bit about Pakistan Fumesucker Mar 2014 #56
China is arming Pakistan hack89 Mar 2014 #57
And don't forget the 23 nations that have backed away from the US dollar. n/t truedelphi Mar 2014 #61
Well, at least there's agreement that Putin's actions were illegal. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #32
Have I ever even implied otherwise? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #33
+1, and totally pulling out of Afghanistan immediately would help as well. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #35
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #37
Love to see the W, Dick and crew perp walk, but JEB Mar 2014 #39
That would require an attorney genreral and a president with high moral standards. Hoppy Mar 2014 #42
Putin should have focused on preparing a Russian port to the east of amandabeech Mar 2014 #46
You are singing my song. n/t Mira Mar 2014 #51
Earning. Moral. Authority. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #52
Ukraine crisis: 'Russian soldiers' seize Crimea hospital ProSense Mar 2014 #53
i don't think anyone is calling for Putin to be charged with war crimes JI7 Mar 2014 #54
Obama would never do that. joshcryer Mar 2014 #59
Personally speaking. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #63
Yeah right! as if western nations ever put their leaders on trial? mazzarro Mar 2014 #64
How about daybranch Mar 2014 #65
I encourage you to post an OP with that as the premise Fumesucker Mar 2014 #67
There's nothing the USA can do to redeem itself ...no more than Nazi Germany could have. L0oniX Mar 2014 #78
Bars & Stripes (clothing) for the Bushies! tea and oranges Mar 2014 #80
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