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In reply to the discussion: We can applaud media's greater NSA scrutiny AND think that Snowden's resume/timing/motives [View all]delrem
(9,688 posts)50. "the last few decades of BushInc" include 6 yrs of ObamaInc., 8 yrs of ClintonInc.
IMO the exclusive focus on party over policy is fundamental cause of US political dysfunction, where you have tweedledum/tweedledee administrations on matters of economic military policy and you have nothing else than spin to suggest some deep dividing difference. Spin that is directly contradicted by the D&R politicians themselves in their more candid moments.
The notion that after 6 yrs as president Obama hasn't "accrued enough power in DC to take on...." is utterly absurd, esp. when compared to the obsequiousness of the premise, which surrenders to and absorbs a right-wing "BushInc" message that the fascist right is all powerful. Even after 6 yrs. As if "BushInc" should have more natural power than "ObamaInc".
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We can applaud media's greater NSA scrutiny AND think that Snowden's resume/timing/motives [View all]
blm
Mar 2014
OP
I agree, 100%. But the fools who criticize Obama think Obama created the NSA's PRISM machine...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#4
But the smart people who criticize Obama know that he expanded BushCo's illegal spying
cui bono
Mar 2014
#10
And furthermore, they elected him with the expectation that he would put an end to
Demeter
Mar 2014
#36
You believe he's been apprised of everything CIA/NSA has been doing, even by private firms selected
blm
Mar 2014
#79
I admit I didn't read your whole post. After seeing all your LOLs and totally rude
cui bono
Mar 2014
#12
I told you, after seeing mostly LOLs and rude posts trying to ridicule people with no substance
cui bono
Mar 2014
#22
LOL - I think Obama's is one of the weakest presidencies in modern history. I think you must
blm
Mar 2014
#38
What's made it so weak in your opinion? Repub obstructionism or the goals set by the admin?
Number23
Mar 2014
#52
Both - I think getting along with opposition party should have been shelved as a goal
blm
Mar 2014
#70
I agree. I wish there WAS a way for Dems to accrue the power base needed to confront this
blm
Mar 2014
#94
No, the point is to force you to stop pretending such and go after the ones with the power
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#107
Clinton accrued more power in his tenure than Obama has and STILL won't confront them.
blm
Mar 2014
#108
Excuses to continue the pretense. Push them to lawfully take the power or prove that it
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#111
I agree - Fvck the excuses - say those of us lefties who choose to stay out of the arena
blm
Mar 2014
#112
Keep in mind there would be no 'greater media scrutiny' to applaud without Snowden n/t
whatchamacallit
Mar 2014
#37
Which is exactly what I wrote in my post. Keep in mind everything else, too. There is ONE family
blm
Mar 2014
#44
"the last few decades of BushInc" include 6 yrs of ObamaInc., 8 yrs of ClintonInc.
delrem
Mar 2014
#50
I think you don't 'get' it at all. It would take you months to get through the full BCCI report
blm
Mar 2014
#72
I feel that if you can't wrap your brain around what was said, only focused research can help you
blm
Mar 2014
#78
You are acting as apologist for the rampant lack of knowledge about the presidency and
blm
Mar 2014
#81
The BCCI report gives NO excuse for Obama, or any other president, to claim powerlessness
delrem
Mar 2014
#83
You're showing you're vastly under-informed. Get thee to National Security Archives, and....
blm
Mar 2014
#85