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Trust Buster

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92. Hello Skinner....folks....I'm a newbie here.....
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 06:37 AM
Mar 2014

I've been enjoying DU headlines for a year now but just recently decided to actively post. I've been doing some heavy battle on another forum with wing nuts for years. I find this site to be a refreshing change of pace and more constructive. Not that I don't value diverse opinion, but let's be real, the Right wing's position has been set in stone my whole lifetime and never changes with the times. Ergo, their problem.

Regarding the ACA, we must not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Any legislation that affects 1/6 of our economy is bound to have rough edges in it's nascent stage. I choose to focus on the larger vision. This is the first time in my life that the healthcare reform boulder has gone from an immovable initiative to one that's now rolling and in play. The shackle that has blinded employee to employer has been broken and the self determination that flows from that alone makes the ACA worth it's price in gold IMO.

Skinner on the ACA [View all] OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 OP
Damn right. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #1
You are always welcome, CP! OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #2
??? Whisp Mar 2014 #93
You're right...it's, um...confusing BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #127
Also REP Mar 2014 #211
Read it in ACA! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #3
I totally agree. It's the first time anything begins to move in the general direction of health Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #4
I like this: Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #22
Thanks! :) nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #31
+1,000. Also, work to turn their states into single payer like VT. It's in the ACA. freshwest Mar 2014 #83
You said it!!! I view the whiners as sitting home chewing on Twinkies and posting whines Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #146
Perfect rebuttal to the all-or nothing crowd! riqster Mar 2014 #194
Excellent, Sarah! Cha Mar 2014 #210
Thanks! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #214
And Skinner is entitled to his opinion Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #5
Skinner is the owner and founder of the site. OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #18
Skinner doesn't require us to agree with his opinions. LWolf Mar 2014 #124
Umm.. I saw Skinner's quote, liked it, and posted it. That's all. OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #136
Apparently that's not all, lol. LWolf Mar 2014 #139
I tried to answer all your points. Not take apart your post. OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #191
THAT is true. LWolf Mar 2014 #199
I'd say he did need to. tavalon Mar 2014 #205
This is his private website, and it does have a perspective. MADem Mar 2014 #25
I never said his opinion "doesn't matter," Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #33
I think it IS a bit more important than anyone else's opinion. MADem Mar 2014 #37
And that's your opinion Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #41
It's not an opinion. It's based on an analysis of the power structure here. MADem Mar 2014 #46
I've noticed that some people seem to want to write their own rules for this site Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #50
I can't understand it either. MADem Mar 2014 #59
Yeah, I find it esp. funny when people who just had a 3 week long meltdown over one swimsuit picture Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #60
Without getting specific as to any individuals, in a generic sense, I think we're seeing a lot MADem Mar 2014 #63
I think part of the Debbie Downer is sincere, part is definitely FUD steve2470 Mar 2014 #64
I can't argue with that. MADem Mar 2014 #67
oh there's definitely trolls and Republicans here and libertarians steve2470 Mar 2014 #69
"FDR wasn't perfect in the eyes of the Left, either. That's conveniently ignored." Number23 Mar 2014 #72
I do agree with you steve2470 Mar 2014 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author mikekohr Mar 2014 #81
#23, Your grasp and perspective of history is bound to confuse mikekohr Mar 2014 #89
What a lovely, kind thing to say. I really appreciate that Number23 Mar 2014 #174
Completely agree LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #108
+1,000...FDR was so correct on so many things, but he had a few clunkers too... MADem Mar 2014 #129
MAD, it doesn't even fly NOW. Let alone in 50 years when there will be documentaries Number23 Mar 2014 #173
+1,000 !!!! nt MADem Mar 2014 #178
Very brave of you to point to a thread where you lost a debate and then lost your temper A Simple Game Mar 2014 #196
That hidden post was worth it. And if you consider that me losing the debate Number23 Mar 2014 #207
I chimed in because I followed your link, something I rarely do, but had a A Simple Game Mar 2014 #213
Yes, my "talking points" of history and politics Number23 Mar 2014 #215
You can rattle on can't you, and you obviously don't proofread. A Simple Game Mar 2014 #218
Color me shocked that a person who considers it "bashing" when someone asks how progressives Number23 Mar 2014 #219
can I ask what FUD is? I'm making up all kinds of guesses Whisp Mar 2014 #128
Spreaders of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #132
oh! sounds like a Hunter Thompson book title. ty. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #133
Maybe Johnny Depp* will find it in Hunter's basement. FSogol Mar 2014 #134
A less glamorous origin, as an acronym, anyway - about IBM's 70s marketing tactics muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #148
Thanks for that - I assumed it was made up by clever DUers. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #151
thats where I learned it....by the time I joined , it became "no-one ever got fired for buying IBM" pkdu Mar 2014 #203
By the time I joined, 'FUD' was what Microsoft spread with Windows rumours muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #204
It's the three electric supermarket scooter riders of the acopalypse.... MADem Mar 2014 #137
lol!!! give me a warning next time. Whisp Mar 2014 #143
Some of that stuff is just so ... OTT! MADem Mar 2014 #152
Or we could ride our llama! riqster Mar 2014 #195
This is the SECOND time I've said this to you this week... Number23 Mar 2014 #176
I know, but sometimes I just can't help ma-sef!!!! MADem Mar 2014 #181
those poor overworked llamas pulling the weight of all that righteousness! Whisp Mar 2014 #197
That is a priceless definition. llmart Mar 2014 #182
Lol! Kaleva Mar 2014 #220
It's how dogs spell "food." Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #160
One of my favorite commercials...! nt MADem Mar 2014 #163
Yeah, or like the "NASA Study Says Civilization Will Collapse Within A Decade!" Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #90
That one makes me roll my eyes and giggle every time I see it. MadrasT Mar 2014 #94
Not me... Callmecrazy Mar 2014 #96
I find the BATBOY laughs in the lounge more credible than those! nt MADem Mar 2014 #131
Some opinions are more relevant than others Major Nikon Mar 2014 #116
Actually, opinions are neither right or wrong, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #117
I didn't say anything about right or wrong Major Nikon Mar 2014 #120
I think you are twisting Skinner's words into some sort of threat. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #52
No, I'm not. MADem Mar 2014 #55
He's no Kos, though. joshcryer Mar 2014 #77
Well, KOS has a very different style and mission. MADem Mar 2014 #141
You're kidding, right? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #49
The difference is he states his opinion without juvenile use of the word 'fuck' in it. randome Mar 2014 #111
And some of us are bilingual, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #113
He SAID he was scared and pissed. So does Ted Nugent. I don't always believe everything I read. randome Mar 2014 #119
I don't doubt that his wife is ill. I don't doubt that she couldn't get her meds for a time. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #123
I gathered you were on ignore based on another post you made. randome Mar 2014 #126
Well when one goes apoplectic...one get's apoplectic comments in return. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #155
specifically, what is the falsehood(s)? nt grasswire Mar 2014 #164
Well, he could have admitted that Obamacare had absolutely nothing to do with his situation. randome Mar 2014 #168
you wrote: grasswire Mar 2014 #170
You are bilingual in "street" and "academia?"Sorry...that sounds as silly as this.... msanthrope Mar 2014 #200
No I'm not and don't call me Shirley Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #208
God, People are Soooo Funny! Skraxx Mar 2014 #221
I'm curious as to what legislation it surpassed. 1000words Mar 2014 #6
I can think of three pieces of major social legislation off the top of my head. OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #21
He is younger than I am, but I said, in another thread, that the ACA ties, in my mind, MADem Mar 2014 #39
Right on point! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #7
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2014 #8
What a used car salesman!!1!(one)!! Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #9
authoritarian JI7 Mar 2014 #10
Ummm... OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #23
She's just joshing ya Number23 Mar 2014 #65
She keeds.. Cha Mar 2014 #79
Thank you Cha (& Number 23) OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #115
:) Me too! Cha Mar 2014 #184
THANKS OBAMA... You #$%^&@)_+&^*!!111 Cha Mar 2014 #11
Mahalo Omaha, Cha ! steve2470 Mar 2014 #12
If I lived in Cha Mar 2014 #13
oh, I'm in Orlando steve2470 Mar 2014 #14
Aloha, Orlando steve~ Cha Mar 2014 #17
I'm sure you've been told a billion times, it must be nice to live in Hawai'i steve2470 Mar 2014 #19
I can never hear it enough.. Cha Mar 2014 #26
yes I hope we do steve2470 Mar 2014 #27
Here's Hoping! Cha Mar 2014 #29
go Dems, go Charlie, go medical marijuana initiative ! steve2470 Mar 2014 #32
I live in Omaha OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #24
Yeah, I know you do, Steve.. :) Didn't Cha Mar 2014 #28
^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #35
Oh Sweet, she! Riveting Beautiful pics of the Cha Mar 2014 #56
Thanks for posting #1 Cha~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #98
Good Morning~she Cha Mar 2014 #99
Night Owl! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #102
LOL! Cha Mar 2014 #103
Beautiful as always! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #86
Hi freshwest~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #100
The ACA will never be repealed LittleBlue Mar 2014 #15
If we get a Republican president, Senate and House anytime soon it sure as hell WILL be repealed. Kablooie Mar 2014 #42
I too think riversedge Mar 2014 #61
Same in N Carolina. Kablooie Mar 2014 #84
They will have a hard job replacing it Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #162
depends on how strong GOP marketing is compared to Dems. Kablooie Mar 2014 #180
Suddenly pre-existing conditions matter? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #202
Part of it has to be renewed by 2019. jeff47 Mar 2014 #125
Time for the bullshit surrounding this to STOP!!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #16
What kind of "force", I don't know... DevineBovine Mar 2014 #70
Whatever.....she was the most successful Speaker of the House ever... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #118
Interesting assembly of assumptions and generalizations DevineBovine Mar 2014 #161
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #166
Bernie Sanders and Skinner...both on the same page... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #20
Uh, Sanders' state (VT) is single-payer cprise Mar 2014 #57
Ya...VT is moving toward single payer, thanks to the ACA Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #58
And he doesn't support private health insurance. cprise Mar 2014 #62
Yes, but he does consider the ACA to be a step in the right direction Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #75
Insurance Companies are nothing more.... cynzke Mar 2014 #122
+ 1 DevineBovine Mar 2014 #201
Maybe I haven't read all the threads Union Scribe Mar 2014 #30
I think this is what sparked things off... LAGC Mar 2014 #40
Right, though I wouldn't call that Union Scribe Mar 2014 #48
That particular post was "over the top", IMO red dog 1 Mar 2014 #171
I had not seen that . Thanks for the link riversedge Mar 2014 #212
There are many posts that specialize in FUD of the worst order. MADem Mar 2014 #44
you nailed it once again steve2470 Mar 2014 #47
Check the rec's on this thread: joshcryer Mar 2014 #54
Checked it...1% of viewers. Don't know most but two surprised me...nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #85
Skinner indicates he's in a certain camp though. joshcryer Mar 2014 #87
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #169
Good post. SoapBox Mar 2014 #34
ACA, without a doubt, is imperfect but an amazint step in the right direction LynneSin Mar 2014 #36
Yes. It's not perfect but it's a huge step towards being perfect someday. Kablooie Mar 2014 #38
Agree!! KT2000 Mar 2014 #43
When he's right, he's right. Er, make that correct. Warpy Mar 2014 #45
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #51
It is without a question of doubt that ACA will lead to single payer. joshcryer Mar 2014 #53
How do you see that coming about? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #66
Look at Vermont, they need the ACA to go to single payer. joshcryer Mar 2014 #74
Without question would require a level of prescience not demonstrated, the CBO doesn't agree. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #106
The entire reason to implement the ACA was single payer. joshcryer Mar 2014 #209
And save thousands of lives as we work towards that change. Walk away Mar 2014 #109
I stand with Skinner. Firebrand Gary Mar 2014 #68
You nailed it, Firebrand Gary.. Cha Mar 2014 #78
Yes, it's pretty darn good. So good I'm using part of it in my sig. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #121
I Agree! cer7711 Mar 2014 #71
So we are all agreed that the goal is still single payer or better:) grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #76
My goal is whatever works OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #114
Also less paperwork and lower costs. Single payer/nationalized insurance works. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #222
It works better for some than for others. OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #223
You wait here too... And then argue with the insurer over payments. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #224
I tend to agree. blackspade Mar 2014 #80
Obamacare enid602 Mar 2014 #82
Can I explain what "tort reform" does? Glitterati Mar 2014 #107
reform enid602 Mar 2014 #144
There's a cap Glitterati Mar 2014 #225
Could not agree more. That we even got any kind of healthcare is an amazing feat. The republicans lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #88
well stated, I agree with Skinner treestar Mar 2014 #91
Hello Skinner....folks....I'm a newbie here..... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #92
Welcome, and thanks for pointing out the fact that people don't have to stay in a shit job MADem Mar 2014 #149
I think Obama couldn't be more mediocre as a President, Vattel Mar 2014 #95
I don't think Skinner is a fifty year old man. If he is, I want directions from him to the Fountain MADem Mar 2014 #150
good point Vattel Mar 2014 #206
I agree riverbendviewgal Mar 2014 #97
I'm not sure but I don't think Skinner has ever been wrong madokie Mar 2014 #101
As someone now paying over $600 a month less and thousands less on deductibles, mmonk Mar 2014 #104
Folks, this is really simple Glitterati Mar 2014 #105
I agree with him, and have seen its benefits MineralMan Mar 2014 #110
Yet somehow I do not think Skinner intended for his words to be used to bash people nt iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2014 #112
Who is using his words to "bash" people? Are only some opinions welcome to be cheered? nt MADem Mar 2014 #138
cheer away iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2014 #142
Wait a minute--I was in that thread and I offered you some tea and sympathy, IIRC. MADem Mar 2014 #145
oh for heaven's sake iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2014 #153
What many are arguing in this thread is that it IS "Obama's fault" though, and because MADem Mar 2014 #156
k and r Berlum Mar 2014 #130
Skinner's right. If the ACA goes down, it will be decades before single payer cry baby Mar 2014 #135
ACA has been a godsend for me flamingdem Mar 2014 #140
I'm reminded of a quote from Jim to Sheriff Bart in "Blazing Saddles"... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #147
Another great quote from Jim to Sheriff Bart in "Blazing Saddles" red dog 1 Mar 2014 #179
I was born in 1950 so it will take much more than the ACA to impress me. A Simple Game Mar 2014 #154
I was born in '53... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #186
Thanks for the praise and I have to agree with Democrats not taking risks. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #189
A bunch of tips of the hat to you, A Simple Game... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #192
Thanks, the hat tip is appreciated as kind words seem to come sparingly on DU lately. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #193
"Trying to tear it down over the last six years." It hasn't existed for six years. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #157
I was wondering about that six year statement myself malokvale77 Mar 2014 #185
The midterms are coming up. Team FUD here on DU will try anything to piss off voters in the Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #158
nailed it nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #159
Just think about it folks - when is the last time the GOP tried to repeal anything Rex Mar 2014 #165
Clear and sane Springslips Mar 2014 #167
Right on Skinner Tippy Mar 2014 #172
Glad to see this site hasn't gone completely insane MirrorAshes Mar 2014 #175
No, we're here.. and Skinner is a Cha Mar 2014 #187
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #177
nope: Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act MisterP Mar 2014 #183
What a DINO. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #188
LOVE you Skinner!!! DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #190
That's been my argument all along. Stellar Mar 2014 #198
Thank you, skinner!!! Desert805 Mar 2014 #216
KICK! Cha Mar 2014 #217
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