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Response to LWolf (Reply #124)

Sat Mar 22, 2014, 11:36 AM

136. Umm.. I saw Skinner's quote, liked it, and posted it. That's all.

imo, it smells of desperation when you pull out one of his opinions to try to score points against those who don't share them


I don't view this as a game and don't look to score points.

It sounds like you are anxious to silence dissenting opinions by whatever means you can find.


No. If I wanted that, I'd have posted "Shouldn't we make support of the ACA a TOS. I did nothing of that sort. I repeat. I liked the way he defended the ACA. He said it well.

As for the point you are trying to make about the ACA? I disagree with Skinner; I think it's legislation that further legitimizes the concept of insurance as priority over care, as the insurance industry as the gate keepers to care, and it spreads the false idea that insurance somehow equals care rather than the reality: The more "affordable" the insurance, the less affordable the care, and having insurance doesn't mean that one can afford to get actual care. It just means that whatever we've got to pay for health care goes to pay an insurance premium, and then we self-limit the actual care we get, because there is nothing left to pay those copays and deductibles.


OK. You disagree. We disagree. I'd hope that we can agree that healthcare for all should be a goal of the Democratic party. I disagree with you to this large extent (and I just made this point in another post).

I don't see physicians as victims of a soul-crushing corporate system. I see them as equal players in a game that has four players: the physicians, Pharma, the for-profit health insurance market, and hospital networks. As with all games, the players are sometimes partners and sometimes opponents, but they all have one goal -- skim as much money from the system as possible.

Yes, all of these players, at some level, are there to help people and improve health outcomes -- in the same way that American Eagle wants to sell you trendy clothes or that Chipotle wants to sell you addictive, overly large burritos. However, the principal goal of all of these enterprises is to make money.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4708867

To sum up: We disagree. I'm fine with that. However, you are supposing motives with respect to my post that simply aren't there.

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