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In reply to the discussion: Want my support for the ACA? Repeal the mandate. [View all]Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)12. No, insurance is the price of owning and operating a dangerous machine. nt
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Not going to happen. You need to talk with a private insurer to get nationwide coverage. nt
MADem
Mar 2014
#1
Shocking that you think that is a good point of negotiation to get where you want this to go...
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#7
I doubt if you are a 23 year old mom with three jobs but just in case you are....
Walk away
Mar 2014
#94
No, my problem is different, but my position on mandates has nothing to do with ME...
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#98
Actually no, if there is no mandate and pre-existing conditions have to be covered
mythology
Mar 2014
#130
I replied to the above poster who tried to use the tired car insurance analogy
BuelahWitch
Mar 2014
#13
It's sufficient for a large percentage of the MALE population age 20-40. WOMEN HAVE BABIES...
Hekate
Mar 2014
#62
Define "we" when you say it. As for me, I am concerned with the other 50 states too, not just Calif
Hekate
Mar 2014
#65
Well you can choose not to drive but you can't choose to not be an ER liability.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#111
Most of the country is nothing like NYC or LA or Chicago in terms of public transportation.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#112
Why, so you can game the system and buy in when you need it? Sign up with a not-for-profit, or do
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#10
Good, I see you've figured out how to game the system and let others pay to help it work.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#22
I like what we have now considering things. And a mandate is the only way to make it work
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#46
They require the financially able to pay a tax/fine when they don't have insurance.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#29
Well, unless you have a supplemental, there is no out-of-pocket cap on traditional Medicare. And
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#84
New York tried a system where insurers were required to accept anyone who applied
Nye Bevan
Mar 2014
#23
And even single payer would have a mandate, it would just be tax based instead of premium based.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#32
Single payer would bring with it the ability to negotiate rates with the healthcare industry
Jesus Malverde
Mar 2014
#39
NOT having to pay a middleman for administration and profit is a huge win
Jesus Malverde
Mar 2014
#48
I think ACA actually codifies the broken system into our government rather than give
Jesus Malverde
Mar 2014
#51
"The private insurance system was headed for collapse before this law came into effect"
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#52
If the government is a criminal cartel that gets over by denying care then we should replace it.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#61
Taxes are much more progressive (in the technical sense) than insurance fees.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2014
#120
One of my biggest problems with the ACA is that it brings millions of customers to the insurers
Jesus Malverde
Mar 2014
#36
I think competition adds that incentive. If another insurer thinks they can handle the population
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#50
No it does not guarantee premiums will go up. Another insurer, such as a hospital not-for-profit
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#54
"We are not going to put your drug on our formulary at that price" is pretty strong.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#42
He did NOT wish any ill on the OP. He just stated the possible risks. If someone wants to take
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#60
won't happen, and they do need a mandate at least the way it exists today
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#57
Usually the government will subcontract to private insurance. They do it now for Medicare
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#97
Without the mandate, the whole rest of the system is unaffordable to the insurers
jmowreader
Mar 2014
#59
exactly, it spreads the risk. We don't have single payer, and this is what we have, so that is what
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#63
But who would fund single payer? Would it be Gilligan or would it be Mr Howell? The ACA...
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#70
I am not dodging, all tax payers, including corporations. That is how single payer runs
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#96
You are still evading. Who pays what percentage? You think single payer is regressive? nt
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#99
WHAT!! I am not legislator, and if you expect a complete plan with details, ask your representative
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#100
why is *your* support so important? are you so important that we should change a law for you?
CreekDog
Mar 2014
#133
Insurance mandates date back to 1791. They're one of the oldest ideas in the country.
Recursion
Mar 2014
#76
Other countries employ mandates to get their citizens to get covered privately or pubically.
BenzoDia
Mar 2014
#81
"How do I qualify for an exemption from the fee for not having health coverage?"
Lars39
Mar 2014
#87
If you are willing to sign a waiver refusing all uninsured hospitalizations or emergency services....
peace13
Mar 2014
#102
The mandate is there to force people, who would not otherwise buy, to purchase their product...
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#122
Not only ACA, but universal and social health care all require a pool of everyone to pay
Sheepshank
Mar 2014
#125
My grandma spoke Galician. She used to say, "qui tardi piacchi" meaning...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#126
Universal=mandatory. The mandate isn't one of the top 10 flaws with the system. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2014
#135
The GOP is playing political theater. I don't care what they pretend to do, I care what's right. nt
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#139