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16. That's the trouble with letting your emotions cloud intellect

Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:21 PM

Mar 2014

You see I have NEVER said such a thing.

Someone who really doesn't like Naziism doesn't care for any of it. But we have some people on this site for whom their feelings and support depend on "who's Nazi" it is.

Intellectually, it is dishonest to create a false equivalency. Yes there is a problem in Russia, as there is in Europe. But this is VERY different, as they are in a place of power and over the department of Justice there.

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Russian Speakers and free thinkers are being harrassed, beaten, and discriminated against in Ukraine [View all] newthinking Mar 2014 OP

I could not imagine the Ukrainian people simply allowing another Russian takeover. kickysnana Mar 2014 #1

Svoboda is not Russian. It is a Party in Ukraine brought to power by Maidan newthinking Mar 2014 #4

Thanks for the link and the heads up. n/t kickysnana Mar 2014 #56

they have my sympathy. Adam051188 Mar 2014 #2

Very sad. also sad that Putin has free thinkers beaten in Russia. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

It's SVOBODA. It's UKRAINE. newthinking Mar 2014 #5

What exactly did he say is untruthful? William769 Mar 2014 #6

Where did I sy I supported them? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #7

You didn't, I checked. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #13

I guess the poster did not like the fact I brought it up. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #14

No, but my OP was about Ukraine. newthinking Mar 2014 #52

You would be a supporter of the facism of Putin? kwassa Mar 2014 #9

That's the trouble with letting your emotions cloud intellect newthinking Mar 2014 #16

Tell that to the LGBT people who get beaten and arrested in Russia thatnit is a false equivalence. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #21

I guess my sword is to sharp for him. William769 Mar 2014 #22

I am not the one making excuses for the Far right? My OP was about the problem in Ukraine, not Russi newthinking Mar 2014 #44

Well I think you can be angry by both Putin's actions and not like the Ukrainian goverment. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #45

Hallalujah! newthinking Mar 2014 #49

ok but I think I said this on my first post here. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #51

It's all pretty serious... newthinking Mar 2014 #53

. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #55

I doubt you can name anyone on DU who supports Svoboda, or cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #23

You've got to be fucking kidding me. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #29

I am not going to get further into the deflection newthinking Mar 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author newthinking Mar 2014 #58

The Minister of Justice is a member of Batkivshchyna. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #12

Svoboda member of parliament Oleh Makhnitsky was named prosecutor-general of the Country newthinking Mar 2014 #20

No I didn't. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #24

"Untruth"? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #57

I already admitted I read him wrong newthinking Mar 2014 #59

Yes, and..Very Truly Sad that Putin has a stupid hate for Gays and Dissident Journalists in Russia. Cha Mar 2014 #50

And Russian vigilantes have been attacking gay Russians and forcing their nightclubs to close. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #8

Thats nothing compared to the beatings that they get because of Putin. William769 Mar 2014 #10

William769, I'm sure these Right Sector and Sloboda thugs will LOVE LGBT folks! rdharma Mar 2014 #15

Instead of posting a music video why don't you put up or ... William769 Mar 2014 #18

What's the old saying.... "jumping from the frying pan into the fire"? rdharma Mar 2014 #26

Thats what I figured. William769 Mar 2014 #31

The arguing here is disingenious. newthinking Mar 2014 #33

Or this? Ukraine "Free Speech Commitee" PM beats TV boss and forces him to quit newthinking Mar 2014 #41

Because it's totally a binary. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #19

OK, if that is the case then we agree. newthinking Mar 2014 #34

Amazing how heavily some are defending Svoboda and Right sector here? newthinking Mar 2014 #27

I didn't defend them and who are you calling a sock puppet? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #40

maybe he's referring to himself dlwickham Mar 2014 #54

Seriously? You are making excuses for for neo-nazi's in Ukraine? newthinking Mar 2014 #25

Your first link is about the president that was ousted (look at the date). William769 Mar 2014 #28

No, that is the president. The ousted President was Yanukovich newthinking Mar 2014 #46

Odd acusation... William769 didn't even mention neo-nazi's in Ukraine in that post. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #32

Or the one's in Russia. nt William769 Mar 2014 #37

come on now. Be honest. You know that he was deflecting from the point of the OP newthinking Mar 2014 #38

The point of the OP is hardly to raise general awareness of man's inhumanity to man cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #42

No, I am not stuck in the cold war. What is happening in Ukraine is getting worse every day newthinking Mar 2014 #47

"Neither are OK" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #35

Exactly newthinking Mar 2014 #39

Fuggin' Nazi Bastards! rdharma Mar 2014 #11

Russian Speakers and free thinkers are being harrassed, beaten, and discriminated against in Russia TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #17

Yes, but they are not the head of the Ministry of "Free Speech" newthinking Mar 2014 #30

Bull: Russian speakers are running the government frazzled Mar 2014 #43

Svoboda and Right sector each have their own hate. Right Sector hates Russian Speakers newthinking Mar 2014 #48