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sabrina 1

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23. Do you agree with the President deciding to end the meta data program?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:04 PM
Mar 2014

I'm very glad he has decided to do that.

Glenn is the definitive expert on hackery, so he'd recognize his own... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1
Do you support the President's proposal to end bulk phone records? NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #19
No one is praising the President for this except in Greenwald's crooked view. randome Mar 2014 #20
We haven't seen the coverage on MSNBC yet (if at all) and BOGers are busy attacking Greenwald NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #33
We haven't seen the Democratic reaction, either, and Greenwald is telling us their reactions! randome Mar 2014 #38
Unless you know that local police serve warrants to every telecom in the USA you have no information NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #40
I don't think Randome is a BOGer Aerows Mar 2014 #94
Yep. There are plenty of pretzel logic folks right here. lark Mar 2014 #47
So what do you think about Obama's decision to end the meta data program altogether? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #21
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If the shoe fits, wear it! The very individuals who attack Greenwald's blog piece are the ones JDPriestly Mar 2014 #67
this article is about people like you, so it's understandable why you'd be so defensive frylock Mar 2014 #78
I don't have satellite or cable.. 2banon Mar 2014 #2
I'm guessing the news that PBO is pushing NSA reforms that are exactly what GG wanted will be news. msanthrope Mar 2014 #10
perhaps so... 2banon Mar 2014 #15
correct, the official TV "leftists" wont touch this. bobduca Mar 2014 #110
. ProSense Mar 2014 #3
You've got to read the whole article...it's the funniest thing GG's ever written. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #8
Even more funny, ProSense Mar 2014 #52
Snowden isn't getting immunity...but may get a federal plea, after he talks. You know...the federal msanthrope Mar 2014 #65
I can't make it out. He spends the first (feels like) 20 paragraphs going on about another issue Number23 Mar 2014 #88
goodness, but that guy is an asshole of the first order! yikes. Whisp Mar 2014 #90
Do you agree with the President deciding to end the meta data program? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #23
Where's the actual action? lark Mar 2014 #48
Because it is an acknowledgement of what WE have been saying all along. That these invasions sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #61
You are certainly more optimistic than I am. lark Mar 2014 #106
Oh yay more division SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #4
Precisely...Glenn's pissed because PBO is doing exactly what Glenn called for him to do! msanthrope Mar 2014 #6
It's simply crazy SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #14
as we have seen for several years, "talk" of reform is not evidence of actual reform. 2banon Mar 2014 #16
I thought Glen's sources were impeccable?? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #42
??? 2banon Mar 2014 #46
President Obama cannot override Section 215, nor the FISA legislation with a stroke of a pen. msanthrope Mar 2014 #63
On the contrary, Glenn appears to be thrilled that the president is now in agreement with him. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #85
I figured he would be Pissssssed. Coming out of the woodwork like clockwork.. Cha Mar 2014 #86
That book release was pushed from today to mid-May...Thanks Obama! nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #89
Really? I'm sure they(eddie&glenn) have some Big Ol' LEAKS Cha Mar 2014 #91
3/25 was the original date...it's now pushed to 5/13. Why? Rumor has it that it needed rewrites msanthrope Mar 2014 #95
"..it is factually thin.".. Shocking.. Cha Mar 2014 #97
Do you support this decision by the President? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #24
Like I said... SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #30
"Pro NSA Democrats" my Aunt Fanny.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #32
i see it more as pitting "Democrats" against traditional democratic principles.. frylock Mar 2014 #80
So Glenn is throwing a tantrum because Obama's proposed reform does exactly what Glenn wanted? msanthrope Mar 2014 #5
Glenn is flinging poo leftynyc Mar 2014 #7
He's actually mad that the President proposed to end bulk collection. msanthrope Mar 2014 #11
Because that would mean leftynyc Mar 2014 #28
Now THAT is a very interesting theory Number23 Mar 2014 #87
Glenn has one of these ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #9
GG's book was scheduled for release today...wonder why it pushed to May? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #13
Moving goalposts is the exact opposite of what was said. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #36
I've always said the program needed to be reigned in. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #41
So you stated the bulk data program was unconstitutional? NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #49
Now you've changed terms. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #54
That's where we disagree. "Legal" and "Constitutional" are different. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #57
Thank you for the clarity here. He makes a common mistake about the law. Vattel Mar 2014 #66
The Supreme Court determines what is unconstitutional, not you or I. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #69
The supreme court changes along with what they consider constitutional. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #75
No, it just leaves it up to the telecoms. joshcryer Mar 2014 #53
The data belongs to the telecoms ... they use it to run their business. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #70
Sure. joshcryer Mar 2014 #72
They also use it for capacity planning. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #74
Statistics can be anonymous... joshcryer Mar 2014 #76
its also part of their billing records. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #84
Do YOU support the President's decision? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #25
Funnier than that! joshcryer Mar 2014 #51
Of course he is and right on cue, too. How dare Obama mess with gg's narrative. Cha Mar 2014 #92
Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #12
I'm thrilled with the President's decision, and support it fully. How about you? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #27
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It's hard to know. Several people in the thread have not addressed the President's decision. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Mar 2014 #17
Jeez, can't someone believe in the need for NSA while JaneyVee Mar 2014 #18
To some it's black and white... one_voice Mar 2014 #26
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Not and continue to think leftynyc Mar 2014 #31
NO because then they cannot use it as a wedge issue to "Divide and Conquer" the Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #35
So, do you support meta data collection, airc you did defend it, or do you support the President's sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #39
You don't do nuance do you? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #44
There is no nuance to this. Either our constitutional rights mean something or they don't. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #64
Jeez, JaneyVee, the NSA sucked the life blood from saidsimplesimon Mar 2014 #58
Your post proves my point... JaneyVee Mar 2014 #62
I applaud President Obama's efforts to curtail the NSA, and urge him to take even stronger measures. Maedhros Mar 2014 #43
Yep. They blow with the boss's whim. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #45
Carter: Snowden's leaks 'good for Americans to know' ProSense Mar 2014 #50
Um...is this issue all about Democrats? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #55
Fuck yeah Greenwald! whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #56
Grrenwald the racist Libertarian? Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #71
If anyone fell for something whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #73
What does that even mean? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #77
It's whining about the Cha Mar 2014 #96
Holy Shit, they are TEARING HIM UP at Kos Number23 Mar 2014 #101
you do realize.... grasswire Mar 2014 #105
What's outrageous is your decision to relay your inability to properly process that sentence into Number23 Mar 2014 #107
"Frankly, the only people whose moral assessments of Obama resemble Greenwald's are the Taliban and Cha Mar 2014 #113
Those are good links. Thanks! randome Mar 2014 #111
Yeah, those dirty Mexicans taking our jobs! Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #79
racist Libertarian? frylock Mar 2014 #81
Oh, you asked earlier. He's got no links, then. Love a fact-based conversation, lol. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #99
Racist? That's a new one. Link? n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #98
Blah, blah, blah... SoapBox Mar 2014 #59
unlike the very people the article is about.. frylock Mar 2014 #82
MORE PROOF it was about Obama and NOT... NOT the 4th freakin amendment!!! Obama is a smart cookie uponit7771 Mar 2014 #60
+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #93
Exactly. And Greenwald hasn't done anything but prove his (many) detractors correct Number23 Mar 2014 #102
So what happens to all of the other types of spying on Americans? Oilwellian Mar 2014 #68
These are the people who flip-flopped on Gitmo, too, when... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #83
Yup. Some disgusting headlines these days woo me with science Mar 2014 #104
Obama says NSA not spying on Americans. How, then, can he be both able to Skip Intro Mar 2014 #100
Greenwald is one of those loons who thinks just because something is wrong under a Republican Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #103
You dont reason with loons bobduca Mar 2014 #109
K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #108
"So what will they do?" bobduca Mar 2014 #112
K&R cprise Mar 2014 #114
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