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In reply to the discussion: 'Obama's new NSA proposal and Democratic partisan hackery,' by Glenn Greenwald [View all]frylock
(34,825 posts)78. this article is about people like you, so it's understandable why you'd be so defensive
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'Obama's new NSA proposal and Democratic partisan hackery,' by Glenn Greenwald [View all]
Newsjock
Mar 2014
OP
We haven't seen the coverage on MSNBC yet (if at all) and BOGers are busy attacking Greenwald
NOVA_Dem
Mar 2014
#33
We haven't seen the Democratic reaction, either, and Greenwald is telling us their reactions!
randome
Mar 2014
#38
Unless you know that local police serve warrants to every telecom in the USA you have no information
NOVA_Dem
Mar 2014
#40
So what do you think about Obama's decision to end the meta data program altogether?
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#21
If the shoe fits, wear it! The very individuals who attack Greenwald's blog piece are the ones
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#67
this article is about people like you, so it's understandable why you'd be so defensive
frylock
Mar 2014
#78
I'm guessing the news that PBO is pushing NSA reforms that are exactly what GG wanted will be news.
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#10
You've got to read the whole article...it's the funniest thing GG's ever written. nt
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#8
Snowden isn't getting immunity...but may get a federal plea, after he talks. You know...the federal
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#65
I can't make it out. He spends the first (feels like) 20 paragraphs going on about another issue
Number23
Mar 2014
#88
Because it is an acknowledgement of what WE have been saying all along. That these invasions
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#61
Precisely...Glenn's pissed because PBO is doing exactly what Glenn called for him to do!
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#6
as we have seen for several years, "talk" of reform is not evidence of actual reform.
2banon
Mar 2014
#16
President Obama cannot override Section 215, nor the FISA legislation with a stroke of a pen.
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#63
On the contrary, Glenn appears to be thrilled that the president is now in agreement with him.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#85
3/25 was the original date...it's now pushed to 5/13. Why? Rumor has it that it needed rewrites
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#95
i see it more as pitting "Democrats" against traditional democratic principles..
frylock
Mar 2014
#80
So Glenn is throwing a tantrum because Obama's proposed reform does exactly what Glenn wanted?
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#5
I'm thrilled with the President's decision, and support it fully. How about you?
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#27
It's hard to know. Several people in the thread have not addressed the President's decision.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#37
NO because then they cannot use it as a wedge issue to "Divide and Conquer" the Democrats...
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#35
So, do you support meta data collection, airc you did defend it, or do you support the President's
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#39
There is no nuance to this. Either our constitutional rights mean something or they don't.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#64
I applaud President Obama's efforts to curtail the NSA, and urge him to take even stronger measures.
Maedhros
Mar 2014
#43
What's outrageous is your decision to relay your inability to properly process that sentence into
Number23
Mar 2014
#107
"Frankly, the only people whose moral assessments of Obama resemble Greenwald's are the Taliban and
Cha
Mar 2014
#113
Oh, you asked earlier. He's got no links, then. Love a fact-based conversation, lol. n/t
Skip Intro
Mar 2014
#99
MORE PROOF it was about Obama and NOT... NOT the 4th freakin amendment!!! Obama is a smart cookie
uponit7771
Mar 2014
#60
Exactly. And Greenwald hasn't done anything but prove his (many) detractors correct
Number23
Mar 2014
#102
Greenwald is one of those loons who thinks just because something is wrong under a Republican
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2014
#103