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Whisp

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90. goodness, but that guy is an asshole of the first order! yikes.

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:47 PM

Mar 2014

If they had even an iota of integrity or intellectual honesty, they would instantly and aggressively condemn Obama.

Who the heck does this wanker think he is? Lots of us pegged him right from the beginning - he is proving us right every time he opens his angry and irrational fits on his little keyboard.

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'Obama's new NSA proposal and Democratic partisan hackery,' by Glenn Greenwald [View all] Newsjock Mar 2014 OP

Glenn is the definitive expert on hackery, so he'd recognize his own... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1

Do you support the President's proposal to end bulk phone records? NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #19

No one is praising the President for this except in Greenwald's crooked view. randome Mar 2014 #20

We haven't seen the coverage on MSNBC yet (if at all) and BOGers are busy attacking Greenwald NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #33

We haven't seen the Democratic reaction, either, and Greenwald is telling us their reactions! randome Mar 2014 #38

Unless you know that local police serve warrants to every telecom in the USA you have no information NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #40

I don't think Randome is a BOGer Aerows Mar 2014 #94

Yep. There are plenty of pretzel logic folks right here. lark Mar 2014 #47

So what do you think about Obama's decision to end the meta data program altogether? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #21

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If the shoe fits, wear it! The very individuals who attack Greenwald's blog piece are the ones JDPriestly Mar 2014 #67

this article is about people like you, so it's understandable why you'd be so defensive frylock Mar 2014 #78

I don't have satellite or cable.. 2banon Mar 2014 #2

I'm guessing the news that PBO is pushing NSA reforms that are exactly what GG wanted will be news. msanthrope Mar 2014 #10

perhaps so... 2banon Mar 2014 #15

correct, the official TV "leftists" wont touch this. bobduca Mar 2014 #110

. ProSense Mar 2014 #3

You've got to read the whole article...it's the funniest thing GG's ever written. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #8

Even more funny, ProSense Mar 2014 #52

Snowden isn't getting immunity...but may get a federal plea, after he talks. You know...the federal msanthrope Mar 2014 #65

I can't make it out. He spends the first (feels like) 20 paragraphs going on about another issue Number23 Mar 2014 #88

goodness, but that guy is an asshole of the first order! yikes. Whisp Mar 2014 #90

Do you agree with the President deciding to end the meta data program? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #23

Where's the actual action? lark Mar 2014 #48

Because it is an acknowledgement of what WE have been saying all along. That these invasions sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #61

You are certainly more optimistic than I am. lark Mar 2014 #106

Oh yay more division SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #4

Precisely...Glenn's pissed because PBO is doing exactly what Glenn called for him to do! msanthrope Mar 2014 #6

It's simply crazy SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #14

as we have seen for several years, "talk" of reform is not evidence of actual reform. 2banon Mar 2014 #16

I thought Glen's sources were impeccable?? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #42

??? 2banon Mar 2014 #46

President Obama cannot override Section 215, nor the FISA legislation with a stroke of a pen. msanthrope Mar 2014 #63

On the contrary, Glenn appears to be thrilled that the president is now in agreement with him. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #85

I figured he would be Pissssssed. Coming out of the woodwork like clockwork.. Cha Mar 2014 #86

That book release was pushed from today to mid-May...Thanks Obama! nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #89

Really? I'm sure they(eddie&glenn) have some Big Ol' LEAKS Cha Mar 2014 #91

3/25 was the original date...it's now pushed to 5/13. Why? Rumor has it that it needed rewrites msanthrope Mar 2014 #95

"..it is factually thin.".. Shocking.. Cha Mar 2014 #97

Do you support this decision by the President? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #24

Like I said... SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #30

"Pro NSA Democrats" my Aunt Fanny.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #32

i see it more as pitting "Democrats" against traditional democratic principles.. frylock Mar 2014 #80

So Glenn is throwing a tantrum because Obama's proposed reform does exactly what Glenn wanted? msanthrope Mar 2014 #5

Glenn is flinging poo leftynyc Mar 2014 #7

He's actually mad that the President proposed to end bulk collection. msanthrope Mar 2014 #11

Because that would mean leftynyc Mar 2014 #28

Now THAT is a very interesting theory Number23 Mar 2014 #87

Glenn has one of these ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #9

GG's book was scheduled for release today...wonder why it pushed to May? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #13

Moving goalposts is the exact opposite of what was said. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #36

I've always said the program needed to be reigned in. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #41

So you stated the bulk data program was unconstitutional? NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #49

Now you've changed terms. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #54

That's where we disagree. "Legal" and "Constitutional" are different. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #57

Thank you for the clarity here. He makes a common mistake about the law. Vattel Mar 2014 #66

The Supreme Court determines what is unconstitutional, not you or I. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #69

The supreme court changes along with what they consider constitutional. NOVA_Dem Mar 2014 #75

No, it just leaves it up to the telecoms. joshcryer Mar 2014 #53

The data belongs to the telecoms ... they use it to run their business. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #70

Sure. joshcryer Mar 2014 #72

They also use it for capacity planning. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #74

Statistics can be anonymous... joshcryer Mar 2014 #76

its also part of their billing records. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #84

Do YOU support the President's decision? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #25

Funnier than that! joshcryer Mar 2014 #51

Of course he is and right on cue, too. How dare Obama mess with gg's narrative. Cha Mar 2014 #92

Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #12

I'm thrilled with the President's decision, and support it fully. How about you? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #27

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It's hard to know. Several people in the thread have not addressed the President's decision. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Mar 2014 #17

Jeez, can't someone believe in the need for NSA while JaneyVee Mar 2014 #18

To some it's black and white... one_voice Mar 2014 #26

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Not and continue to think leftynyc Mar 2014 #31

NO because then they cannot use it as a wedge issue to "Divide and Conquer" the Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #35

So, do you support meta data collection, airc you did defend it, or do you support the President's sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #39

You don't do nuance do you? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #44

There is no nuance to this. Either our constitutional rights mean something or they don't. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #64

Jeez, JaneyVee, the NSA sucked the life blood from saidsimplesimon Mar 2014 #58

Your post proves my point... JaneyVee Mar 2014 #62

I applaud President Obama's efforts to curtail the NSA, and urge him to take even stronger measures. Maedhros Mar 2014 #43

Yep. They blow with the boss's whim. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #45

Carter: Snowden's leaks 'good for Americans to know' ProSense Mar 2014 #50

Um...is this issue all about Democrats? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #55

Fuck yeah Greenwald! whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #56

Grrenwald the racist Libertarian? Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #71

If anyone fell for something whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #73

What does that even mean? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #77

It's whining about the Cha Mar 2014 #96

Holy Shit, they are TEARING HIM UP at Kos Number23 Mar 2014 #101

you do realize.... grasswire Mar 2014 #105

What's outrageous is your decision to relay your inability to properly process that sentence into Number23 Mar 2014 #107

"Frankly, the only people whose moral assessments of Obama resemble Greenwald's are the Taliban and Cha Mar 2014 #113

Those are good links. Thanks! randome Mar 2014 #111

Yeah, those dirty Mexicans taking our jobs! Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #79

racist Libertarian? frylock Mar 2014 #81

Oh, you asked earlier. He's got no links, then. Love a fact-based conversation, lol. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #99

Racist? That's a new one. Link? n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #98

Blah, blah, blah... SoapBox Mar 2014 #59

unlike the very people the article is about.. frylock Mar 2014 #82

MORE PROOF it was about Obama and NOT... NOT the 4th freakin amendment!!! Obama is a smart cookie uponit7771 Mar 2014 #60

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #93

Exactly. And Greenwald hasn't done anything but prove his (many) detractors correct Number23 Mar 2014 #102

So what happens to all of the other types of spying on Americans? Oilwellian Mar 2014 #68

These are the people who flip-flopped on Gitmo, too, when... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #83

Yup. Some disgusting headlines these days woo me with science Mar 2014 #104

Obama says NSA not spying on Americans. How, then, can he be both able to Skip Intro Mar 2014 #100

Greenwald is one of those loons who thinks just because something is wrong under a Republican Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #103

You dont reason with loons bobduca Mar 2014 #109

K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #108

"So what will they do?" bobduca Mar 2014 #112

K&R cprise Mar 2014 #114