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pragmatic_dem

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125. It's a reasonable moniker the for the robotic defense to critical analysis

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:00 PM

Mar 2014

It is a reasonable name for the sort of robotic response to some of the most important issues of our generation:

When Obama was against wiretapping...

Finally we have a presidential candidate who will stand up for the 4th amendment and protect against government over reach into citizens lives... good riddance GW Bush

Subsequently, when Obama was for wiretapping...

As commander in chief, Obama needs every tool at his disposal to keep America safe... wonderful chess move, why are you such a hater...?

When candidate Obama was for environmental protection...

"Finally we have a president who is going to fight oil companies and unleash massive new investment in alternative energy...

As fracking spreads like wild fire, poisoning water supplies across the country, and drill baby drill was passed in Gulf of Mexico along with Monsanto Protection Act...

Fracking and deep water drilling just makes pragmatic sense, we can't be dependent on Middle East oil, the president needs every option available and genetically modified foods are 100% safe for the environment and our health. Obama was clear about his stand on this. If you don't like it, why did you vote for him and why are you such a hater...?

Nothing to be gained by more examples. I'm sure the point is made.

So Obamabot is simply a term which is used to describe a robotic, predictable defense to ANY criticism of the President. It is a defensive posture so awkwardly scripted, it might have been generated by a computer program that has only one output, regardless of the input.

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The Obamabots moniker was coined by the RW...and used by those who lean that direction. [View all] Demonaut Mar 2014 OP

I was thinking the same thing about the "flaming emo-progs" moniker. djean111 Mar 2014 #1

Neither one of them are helpful. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #4

but what they SHOULD do is support Democrats....but somehow some think hatred is support. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #27

Now, you're stalking me? GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #30

because I replied I am stalking you? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #32

Nope. Not at all. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #114

Thought I was on your ignore list? Guess not VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #120

You are now. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #127

Good I win! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #128

Public meltdown AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #162

Yes, and I've noticed they're not thinking logically or strategically at all. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #71

NOT at all...they don't get it....that the mushy middle votes for what appears to be the Winner... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #73

Exactly, Vanilla. I'm very much a leftist (probably too much) but if we don't get the Repugs out... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #79

They just got to understand we will NOT win by bashing Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #124

I'm hoping for the same. The bashing of Democrats should not be tolerated. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #141

the midterms are getting closer and closer... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #142

Yup, and the GOPers are pouring lots of $ into propaganda and lies nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #143

and then those lies somehow manage to spill over into DU....imagine that... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #144

Whatever the GOPers are most against, is what I'm most in favor of, so right now I'm more pro-Obama Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #146

TOTALLY on board with you Sarah...if the ACA is so bad that they try to repeal it 51 times so far... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #147

Yup! This is the first version of the first plan to offer health care to all, and I am excited Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #148

Yes me too....very much so... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #149

Then stop bashing Democrats AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #163

But who made up the "emo-progs" moniker? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #52

I have not even seen that used....and I have been here a while... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #75

Spamdan? Smarty? Cesca? There's a never-ending supply of... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #131

at least you admit it is intended as a pejorative. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #105

Yes, but who invented it and why? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #161

It doesn't describe supporters. It describes fanatics. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #2

And are you the one who makes that oh-so objective delineation? 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #5

Why, yes. Yes I am. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #6

Well, at least you pretend to be.. LanternWaste Mar 2014 #11

Thanks for clearing that up for us. (And Bill O'Reilly says "thanks". He was tired ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #15

"Fanatics" is also a slur, which you use to describe anyone who approves of Obama's actions pnwmom Mar 2014 #67

Bullshit. It is a slur, to be sure, but my standard for application is not "approves more than me." Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #86

YES! Same with "Obama Zombies", a title of a book alp227 Mar 2014 #3

ODS was also coined by the RW when it was known as BDS.. frylock Mar 2014 #7

Claiming a term was invented by the other side is a typical RW maneuver Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #8

As is rationalizing a pejorative... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #12

LOL LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #17

He's claiming it was invented by RWers which is probably true CJCRANE Mar 2014 #54

Linking to Urbandictionary is another well known RW tactic Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #77

You're just going to call everything RW now aren't you? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #80

One still has to wonder Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #9

When he does Democratic things, sure LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #18

You're supposed to give him the benefit of a doubt when possible. randome Mar 2014 #19

What a way to divide treestar Mar 2014 #43

EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #28

Teddy?....Would you take this one? bvar22 Mar 2014 #33

Irrelevant. treestar Mar 2014 #44

Adding to or changing my sig with that one. cui bono Mar 2014 #51

perfect grasswire Mar 2014 #55

So, I should support cuts to social security, NSA excesses? This is the tsuki Mar 2014 #87

Are any DUers or Obama in favor of cuts to social security and NSA excesses? lumpy Mar 2014 #112

Okay, tsuki Mar 2014 #169

Obamabots vs Moonbats...both RW terms. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #10

Good to see you posting again! Wow, 2003. Rex Mar 2014 #13

I'm here everyday, I read but rarely post..I'm seeing more division than ever now on DU Demonaut Mar 2014 #14

I've pretty well given up. Whisp Mar 2014 #20

I can understand why you are so frustrated. Rex Mar 2014 #21

So how do you feel about the terms ODS, hater, firebagger, emoprog etc...? cui bono Mar 2014 #24

Riiiight, because any expression of frustration that fails to include YOUR pet peeve ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #26

I'm merely finding out if the concern is even handed or not. cui bono Mar 2014 #34

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE Kolesar Mar 2014 #40

Shows that people do not understand what being a juror means. cui bono Mar 2014 #50

No. It's clear that *you* don't understand ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #68

How the fuck did this place survive prior to Nov. 2, 2005? 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #104

I think juror #5 pretty neatly skewered your post. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #170

And what did Juror #6 say?? Number23 Mar 2014 #89

Nuthin' Honey ... eom Kolesar Mar 2014 #165

there's no term that you'd accept as fair treestar Mar 2014 #45

What? So you'd like a deragatory term that the other side would approve of? cui bono Mar 2014 #49

yesterday the terms "Taliban" and "Teabaggers" were added to that list. grasswire Mar 2014 #57

Wow. cui bono Mar 2014 #59

Where's the link? I don't believe that came from a genuine DUer. nt CJCRANE Mar 2014 #60

genuine? grasswire Mar 2014 #65

Except she didn't say anything about Democrats. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #76

wrong grasswire Mar 2014 #78

Wow, your reading comprehension sucks. giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #84

I said nearly the same thing in my response to that poster. Amazing what some around here Number23 Mar 2014 #90

EXACTLY grasswire Mar 2014 #94

Don't expect them to have enough character admit that. Marr Mar 2014 #96

thank you grasswire Mar 2014 #101

Are agreeing and "affirming" the same thing? Number23 Mar 2014 #107

Indentions & quotation marks just kick some people's giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #103

"Indentations and quote marks just kick some people's asses" Indeed! Number23 Mar 2014 #109

who is "she"? grasswire Mar 2014 #93

Number 23, post 101, in post 65 of this thread giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #99

okay, I get it grasswire Mar 2014 #102

"Palsies. BFF, perhaps." Number23 Mar 2014 #111

you are the attacker, remember grasswire Mar 2014 #116

Because I agreed with the statement. Just about every place I've seen the same level of unhinged Number23 Mar 2014 #117

you "agreed with the statement" grasswire Mar 2014 #122

Good. Sounds as though it needs lots of it. Number23 Mar 2014 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #167

Another point that poster refuses (or is unable) to accept Number23 Mar 2014 #92

But when they own it, I find it similar to Tea Partyers owning the label... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #16

I don't like the term and don't use it myself Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #22

Can you please provide me with a link to your OP about ODS? cui bono Mar 2014 #23

start your own.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #29

Didn't you get the memo? All threads MUST address that poster's particular ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #35

DOH! I forgot!!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #38

K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #25

It seems to have come into vogue here at DU, I am just responding to those making threads about it quinnox Mar 2014 #31

Its called "owning" it....perhaps you might have heard of another perjorative going through that.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #39

The people who use the term disparagingly here are likley RWers. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #36

And the term ODS was used on Republicans mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #37

and you DOUBT that hatred of Obama exists on DU? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #41

You're illustrating my point mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #53

Do you deny that hatred exists? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #56

You're STILL isslustrating my point mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #64

I am proving WHY you are wrong... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #66

And you're proving that you're a robot more with each post mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #72

Oh yada yada yada....the PeeWee Herman Defense! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #74

You can't even acknowledge there is another side to the argument mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #81

There is no hatred of Obama here. If there is it is perhaps one or two people. cui bono Mar 2014 #63

baloney! If that were the case this place would be full of much more praise for him.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #69

The only reason you think that is because you equate any criticism of policy with hating Obama. cui bono Mar 2014 #98

Okay then.....I dare you....say something positive about President Obama... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #121

I'm not your little poodle. I don't bark on command. cui bono Mar 2014 #157

Not surprised I figured you couldn't.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #159

Bless your heart. "It's not here." "OK, maybe it's here, but just a little bit." "And anyway ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #108

How do you think Obama would feel cui bono Mar 2014 #113

I got two prime examples of full on raging Obama hate right here.. Cha Mar 2014 #95

Well yes, one of those posts does exhibit pure hate; the other post childish name calling and lumpy Mar 2014 #110

Nah, I'm going to go with Two examples of Obama HATE. Cha Mar 2014 #132

How do you suppose it is unquestioning? treestar Mar 2014 #47

"We've had no reason to question our support" mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #58

I just call people who support everything the President says or does unconditionally, cali Mar 2014 #42

Egg-zactly. And its not as if the Obama-bots don't toss out names all the time, like "Putinista, quinnox Mar 2014 #46

the latest I saw (yesterday) grasswire Mar 2014 #61

I see what you mean but I hope you're not insinuatiing Ive called Du'ers a racist for disagreeing Demonaut Mar 2014 #83

And your thread has not helped the infighting, it has only added to it because you selectively cui bono Mar 2014 #106

a side?...I'm a progressive Democrat, I'm not drawing lines in the political sand Demonaut Mar 2014 #115

Check. Your pejorative of choice ... not too bad. Those directed back at you ... shitty . 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #100

How does one determine who adores and worships the Prez unconditionally ? lumpy Mar 2014 #119

The "bot" term really has no place here frazzled Mar 2014 #48

I don't mind it. The folks who use it ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #62

Yep Andy823 Mar 2014 #88

If rw started it then glenn greenwald picked it up real fast.. calling Obama's SUPPORTERS that.. Cha Mar 2014 #70

False premise. I thought up "Obamabot" all on my own. It wasn't a big stretch after "Bushbot". Marr Mar 2014 #82

I'm referring to context and DU Demonaut Mar 2014 #85

I don't follow you. Marr Mar 2014 #91

true dat grasswire Mar 2014 #97

The Third Wayers is also a shitty way to describe Hillary supporters. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #118

Has Mrs. Clinton come out against the 3rd way? pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #129

I don't plan on reading all that cut and paste stuff. Not interested! Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #133

Is she a third way candidate or not? Third way is a real group, very much like DLC pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #134

I'll make that decision when she announces her candidacy and platform. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #138

I agree with that, however it isn't fair to say 3rd way is derogatory because it pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #139

It's going to cost hundreds of millions to defeat the Rethugs, Koch brothers, Alderson, Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #145

be careful with compromise, wall street doesn't have your back pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #151

I don't want a grand bargain any more than I want a ReThug president Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #152

That's where we part ways, "realism" is the exactly the problem pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #153

You are putting words in my mouth! Are you actually thinking I want all those things. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Mar 2014 #135

It's a reasonable moniker the for the robotic defense to critical analysis pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #125

Bingo. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #126

And the ones who toss it around the most baldguy Mar 2014 #130

Bullshit. /nt Marr Mar 2014 #137

Yes, the ones who call us "Obamabots" but suck up anything Greenwald throws their way. Cha Mar 2014 #156

Have you been reading anything??? It is not his supporters..... Logical Mar 2014 #136

he knows that Skittles Mar 2014 #160

Really? Y'all are going to start complaining about things because they started with right wingers? JoeyT Mar 2014 #140

Many conservatives find refuge here... they cheer conservative policies pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #155

Yeah, but the problem with people being JoeyT Mar 2014 #158

This is sort of like the "ACA isn't Heritage Care" thread Doctor_J Mar 2014 #150

I really don't care what they call me.. all they have are insults. I just consider the Cha Mar 2014 #164

Thats a good attitude to have Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2014 #166

Exactly Bodhi! Cha Mar 2014 #171

Wouldn't know, never used the term. 99Forever Mar 2014 #168