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In reply to the discussion: I haven't seen any actual Obamabots here. [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)On my side, I have seen many many posts, some directed at me personally, trying to implicate people to the left of Obama that post their objections on D.U. as being RW'ers. It's a terrible thing to do to a leftist, and I would think that it would not happen on D.U., unfortunately it is S.O.P. for some here. When you said you can go to RW sites and see the same shit, that's where that remark took me. Glad to see that isn't where you are coming from.
Re the ACA and this OP, I do blame Obama for aligning with the health insurance industry, Baucus did the damage but Baucus basically IS Obama, dig into the prior Baucus staffers who were with Obama early on in his campaign, such as Messina. People let Obama off too easily on this issue IMHO. Many here believe otherwise, I am ok with that, agree to disagree.
Will Pitt's OP this OP referenced (inaccurately, since it omitted the used-car salesman part) was one I read, and thought about rec'ing, but the sentiment looked to me to be a little over the top.
I am not a great fan of Pitt, he wrote many posts earlier in Obama's presidency that were too far in the apologist camp for me. Now that he has come around in his thinking, I agree with him more often, but writers try to get noticed, and use overly dramatic language. He also had a personal stake in this since it was his wife. I think, for those wanting to understand his post and not simply slander a lot of good Democrats here, those were factors in him using that extreme phrasing. And many people rec'ing that thread probably did so with this context in mind.
This OP here (not Will's) seems like nothing more than divisive hippie punching, a device to limit criticism and dissent among Democrats who genuinely disagree with many of the RW (more accurately corporate and M.I.C.) policies Obama has supported. We should be able to do so here on D.U., we want real Democrats pushing real Democratic policies, and we're willing to fight for them when we find one.