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(40,367 posts)304. yes, "America sought to work within the international system," by LYING nt
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almost laughed out loud at work hearing him decrying big countries bullying little countries...
KG
Mar 2014
#1
I know. That jumped out at me too. Thanks Bush for giving excuses to warmongers to come.
applegrove
Mar 2014
#2
Then there is your proof....but there ARE people here who cannot do it...
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#233
"WE" are giving international war criminals refuge within our borders.
PowerToThePeople
Mar 2014
#336
Obama's statements regarding Iraq has become a mountain in the eyes of Obama's detractors.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#200
Who is he defending here: ""We did not claim or annex Iraq's territory. We did not grab its
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#329
Worse, we forced Iraq to give their oil to BP, Shell, Exxon, etc. This is not a reason to be proud.
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#352
we can't wait for the appropriate remorse before working against dictators like Putin
uhnope
Mar 2014
#342
I dont disagree. But we need to have a conversation as a country as to who we are with regard
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#353
I agree w/you but I point out that US is not proposing foreign aggression in Ukraine
uhnope
Mar 2014
#357
An overwhelming number of Crimeans voted for that annex to Russia. A majority of Crimeans ARE
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#225
So! Who got the oil, hmm? Hint, it wasn't the USA. Read post for correct answer>
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#254
Maybe he should just pardon the Bush War Criminals and then we could move "forward".
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#12
First of all American "moral authority" is dead. It wont be back for many a day.
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#30
Good point - it never really existed, given our treatment of Native Americans...
polichick
Mar 2014
#96
Good point, I should demean McDonalds workers to suggest the The Dim-Son could handle
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#326
Those that say that one cant be pardoned until they are tried and convicted
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#178
Krugman said that taking the Presidency right after Bush would not be worth it.
Dawson Leery
Mar 2014
#31
I really like the way the president is rallying his 2008 voters for this year's midterms
Doctor_J
Mar 2014
#10
LOL, really? Seems to me like there is only one thought, that Obama is god and all
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#51
Ya Know... Oddly... I Have A Certain Affinity For The True Believers...Especially Since...
WillyT
Mar 2014
#72
WTF. "In fact, the U.S. forced Iraq to privatize its oil industry, which had previously been under
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#19
We were promised that oil. That was going to pay for the invasion. And now we
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#45
So I am guessing that you will welcome the day when the Pres pardons Bush
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#195
And the US is supporting a RW coup attempt in Venezuela, to privatize their oil, right fucking now.
Zorra
Mar 2014
#83
This oil situation is exactly what I thought of when I heard the prez go there...
polichick
Mar 2014
#105
well it's true it wasn't for our gain. it was for Big Oil's gain, not the American people.
magical thyme
Mar 2014
#157
I Don't Think So... Over My Lifetime It Looks Like Presidents Cover For Each Other...
WillyT
Mar 2014
#29
I dont think so. But I think he realizes that prosecuting war criminals would be
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#55
Somewhere in Texas, a man painting pictures of dogs is laughing his ARSE off.
WinkyDink
Mar 2014
#34
Thanks for posting Obama's full speech. I guess he shouldn't have tried to defend our war against
lumpy
Mar 2014
#188
It is a stupid statement, but it must be remembered he would not have gone into Iraq in the first
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#58
He should have said: "Mr Putin, given that Bush wrongly invaded Iraq, you should feel free to ...
JoePhilly
Mar 2014
#299
This is the worst thing Obama has ever said, since that thing he said yesterday.
JoePhilly
Mar 2014
#67
So... President Obama's Justifying President Bush's Illegal Invasion Of Iraq Is OK With You ???
WillyT
Mar 2014
#98
I'm Not Gonna Alert You For That... Cause I Really Couldn't Care Less... But...
WillyT
Mar 2014
#103
At least We tried to get support before we invaded a country for oil illegally.
tea and oranges
Mar 2014
#82
Yet Our System Of Government... Was Linked To The Theory That We Followed The Laws Of Humans...
WillyT
Mar 2014
#168
Which shows the reason why we continue have combat troops in Iraq today, right?
MrScorpio
Mar 2014
#115
Nope sorry, O won't be medaling GWB, you'll have to hope for President Hillary for that. n/t
PoliticAverse
Mar 2014
#235
lol - I would have thought the Obamabots would have blamed the speech writer...
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#124
OFFS yea ...well we should have attacked Saudi Arabia since most of the 911 hijackers were Saudis...
L0oniX
Mar 2014
#137
Could you please start throwing up in private instead of all over this board?
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#139
His restating his opposition to the Iraq war doesn't bother me in the least n/t
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#152
And his continued votes for funding the war after one speech does not bother you, actions do speak..
slipslidingaway
Mar 2014
#158
Not to mention all the wars he has unilaterally launched as President, eh?
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#162
Stay on topic, how many displaced persons and orphaned children in Iraq do not forget...
slipslidingaway
Mar 2014
#164
Now what the hell are we talking about? Obama opposed the war, famously called it a dumb war
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#172
I remember one speech from Obama and then several votes to fund the "dumb" war. n/t
slipslidingaway
Mar 2014
#198
I remember a right-wing friend being all stoked about the Iraq invasion. Drinking at our
brewens
Mar 2014
#159
Calm, Cool, and Collected, President Obama Schools ABC Reporter During Press Conference at The Hague
ProSense
Mar 2014
#167
aren't you even a little 'happy' President O. has worked to move the USA out of those wars?
Sunlei
Mar 2014
#185
a thousand ways, over & over, he already has said bushwars were wrong." I'm opposed to dumb wars"
Sunlei
Mar 2014
#209
maybe not to you, sorry.But I accept the thousands of times Pres. O has 'said' bushwars were wrong
Sunlei
Mar 2014
#215
then why not say THAT this time instead of trying mitigate the sheer hypocrisy?
Skittles
Mar 2014
#221
we'd likely still have a presence (aside from the thousands of contractors) if not for bush's SOFA
frylock
Mar 2014
#359
I suppose you're welcome to take the PoV that the US is the sole arbiter of right and wrong
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#244
Your hatred clouds your reading comprehension. Your two paragraphs aren't contradictory.
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#255
Just to point out how uniformed your post is>>> the RESOURCES went elsewheres
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#256
This thread is filled with the usual DU'ers who have zero reading comprehension.
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#257
Remember when the Huff. post did a picture of Obama and Bush morphed and called it George W. Obama?
quinnox
Mar 2014
#253
This is all "true": "But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system.
Zorra
Mar 2014
#266
Definitely. If I didn't know better, I'd wonder if Obama had been hitting the scotch bottle cabinet
quinnox
Mar 2014
#272
Even the most stalwart Obama defenders should just admit the President was wrong.
Enthusiast
Mar 2014
#282
The swooners are not here to *discuss* policy, but to rationalize it whatever it is.
bobduca
Mar 2014
#297
You and I differ greatly in our assessment, but thanks for clarifying your stance. Nt
Hekate
Mar 2014
#380
Pretty soon we'll hear that it was Ed Snowden who FORCED Obama to end the Iraq war.
randome
Mar 2014
#300
It's not "defending" the Iraq war to recognize the difference between it and the Crimea annexation.
WatermelonRat
Mar 2014
#308
Yes, it would be more analogous if we grabbed Cuba at gunpoint. Or Baja California.
treestar
Mar 2014
#351
Obama's not the only one...someone needs to come out and tell it like it is...
joeybee12
Mar 2014
#333
He didn't defend it. He highlighted falsehoods in Putin's statement. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2014
#349
Why doesn't he just pass on "IOKIYAR"? The world will accept that. .........right?
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#368
To use a legal term, what President Obama did was to distinguish the Iraq war from Crimea
Gothmog
Mar 2014
#374
I listened President Obama's comments live on my car radio when he made the speech
Gothmog
Mar 2014
#381