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samplegirl

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Mon Mar 31, 2014, 09:00 AM Mar 2014

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From a fellow D.U.er

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I don't do much of my driving staring into the rear view mirror. It's better to look far down the road, but sometimes danger may approach from that runaway semi I safely passed miles ago, and it's good to warn those ahead of the impending peril bearing down on them. Objects in the mirror are, after all, closer than they appear.

Looking back on my gratefully long trip through life, I recall the Lyndon Johnson years. I was young draft bait as he neared the end of his tenure and absolutely loathed the man. I was one of those motivated teens chanting "hey hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today" in the public square. It was only decades later that I learned of the great legislation he was signing with his right hand, even as I envisioned him using his left to pile up my classmates like so much cord wood. He passed most of these good deeds while I was an adolescent and preoccupied with my discovery of sex, drugs, and rock & roll, but I suddenly found myself more politically aware as I became old enough to be sent off to war.

I can assure with first hand knowledge that LBJ was not a popular president, to say the least. Of course, the reasons for this disapproval varied greatly, the left generally for the war, and the right for his "Great Society" that brought about Medicare and equal rights, but the disdain was indeed universal. I don't know for sure how the election in '68 would have gone if he decided to run for re-election, but I think he read the writing on the wall correctly and stepped down. I believe one of the prime reasons Nixon entered the Oval Office that year was a combination of the negative perception that democrats were inept nanny-state spendthrifts and Nixon's spurious promise to end the war. I proudly cast my very first presidential vote for George McGovern in 1972 in a fruitless effort to deny Nixon his woefully fated second term.

That was the same year I began what would become a 30 year union career on an assembly line at GM, and it was the next election cycle when I did my part to seat a young Jimmy Carter into office. I have to break it to many here that Carter was also not the respected sage that he's seen as today. The disdain for Carter was loud and widespread. Back then we didn't have the internet, of course, our forum was the break room and the bar across the street from the plant was our Facebook.

It was there that democrats - good union democrats - would pound the lunch table between bites of their McDLT, or order up a round of the new Michelobs at the local bar and carp about how the peanut farmer was taking us down. He was perceived as being weak on foreign policy, what with the Iranian hostage crisis, and incapable of handling the economy, considering our cheapest cars were quickly approaching the $10,000 mark, a price point that precluded many of us from buying our own product.

The vocal dissenters were adamant that being told to turn down our thermostats by some yokel in a dorky sweater was the end of the American dream. Of course I now realize these were the tantrums of spoiled baby boomers who grew up with color TVs, Sansui stereos, and a new sedan in the garage every two years. They felt deeply slighted by the Carter administration and a declining middle class that was beyond his control by that time.

Those malcontents at the time never said it was time to vote for a republican - they'd never say that - but the sentiment was one for a change. It's now that I will make a confession I seldom admit to: I bought into this hype back then, and in 1980 my vote helped elect a good looking charismatic and glib Ronald Reagan. Within the next two years, especially after that POS declared war on organized labor, I understood that I made a horrible mistake, and vowed to never be duped by the whining opinions of chronic complainers again.

When I read a post now in DU that carps outrageously about how Obama isn't the president we expected, those not so distant memories flood back to me. No one here is saying that we should elect a republican in 2016 of course, but the message often is that Obama, and democrats in general, are scarcely better. I'm reading that failure to close Gitmo is akin to burning the Bill of Rights, and his lack of Wall Street oversight is tantamount to economic malfeasance. I hear complaints that drone attacks are as much a horrendous war crime as his reluctance to shut down the Keystone pipeline is purposeful environmental sabotage. The bottom line is always, and once again, that we're disillusioned and need change.

I pretty sure no one here is going to turn to the GOP in 2016, but I'm certain the same people who express such disdain here do the same elsewhere. Perhaps it's complaints at the Thanksgiving table with extended family members, or to fellow drinkers at the local watering hole, or even on other websites in some cases, but the message that we aren't happy with Obama does get out. In a rare political discussion with my conservative cousin a couple months ago, she pointed out that "even democrats are sorry they voted for this president". Though I know it's not for the reasons she assumed, I unfortunately have to give her that technical point now, don't I?

I don't remember now who the tools were that propagated the perception to me that Jimmy Carter was an ineffectually lame goofball of a president and helped usher in the era of Ronald Reagan 30 years ago, but if a young energetic face like Paul Ryan or (shudder) Ted Cruz takes the oath in 2017, the blame will be partly on those who worked five days a week slamming their fist and exclaiming to the electorate, the tavern, and yes, DU, what a disappointing failure Obama was to them.

Maybe decades from now, Obama will be hawking his own 38th book with whoever takes over for Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show, and we can all come here to DU XII to fawn about how he accomplished so much good in spite of such fervent opposition. From the Lily Ledbetter Act and the Financial Protection Agency to the genesis of healthcare reform and raising the minimum wage, we will finally agree that these were the good old days. Our perception of the president has always had consequences, and that often changes when we're driving down a newly pot-holed road and see him in the rear view mirror.

-JohnnyRingo







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I read this yesterday and loved it...K&R. monmouth3 Mar 2014 #1
There's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2
Support the best candidate. randome Mar 2014 #4
Oh, I am. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #7
So you're supporting your CA-21 candidate with blind loyalty. randome Mar 2014 #12
THAT'S what you got out of that post? Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #15
I like the way you think. n/t westerebus Mar 2014 #37
I've donated to Amanda Renteria. I'd look forward to her being in the House. NBachers Apr 2014 #147
I got the exact same thing. I don't see how one could not. cheapdate Apr 2014 #159
He's "weak" because of the R House treestar Mar 2014 #56
And in 08? quakerboy Apr 2014 #155
CA 21 is not like the others. Valadao reminds me of our Richard Pombo, who was tossed. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #71
I didn't even know he was running again. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #75
I read of a recent poll putting him ahead of Renteria. Maybe he's learned a lesson. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #77
"Our number 1 priority is to make Barack Obama a one term president" Maraya1969 Mar 2014 #137
Well, aren't you just the little internet bad-ass. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #139
Your posts make you look uninformed. eom Maraya1969 Apr 2014 #169
Must be in a time warp....I thought this was 2014 Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #14
Candidate/representative/politician/whatever. randome Mar 2014 #17
I agree. I care about who CAN get there, and who can get some things done versus Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #118
Obama is a candidate? ljm2002 Mar 2014 #129
Agree. Glitterati Mar 2014 #11
A well seasoned voter, posts a well thought out string of events Sheepshank Mar 2014 #97
ROFL! Hit home, I guess Glitterati Mar 2014 #103
That is not the gist of the post. ProSense Mar 2014 #13
Don't pout, ProSense, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #16
LOL! See your initial comment. ProSense Mar 2014 #19
You've no idea what I want. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #20
Yes, I do ProSense Mar 2014 #23
And then there's the rest of us who are wholly Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #26
"Binary thinking"? ProSense Mar 2014 #28
yeah...I think Pro Sense is right there ^^^^^ Sheepshank Mar 2014 #62
Seriously, that's what you got from this post? gtar100 Mar 2014 #39
Yes, that's exactly what I got from this post Glitterati Mar 2014 #43
I think that's a rather narrow viewpoint on the Op. gtar100 Mar 2014 #141
No it isn't treestar Mar 2014 #53
Then don't. Support Demorats with your eyes wide open and well informed. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #116
Or bitch about everything they do so people will vote for the republican next time. Maraya1969 Mar 2014 #136
That's what you got out of that? cheapdate Apr 2014 #158
Please link to original post. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #3
"... lack of Wall Street oversight is tantamount to economic malfeasance." Scuba Mar 2014 #5
I doubt anyone would disagree with that. randome Mar 2014 #6
I believe law enforcement works for the AG, who works at the pleasure of the President. Scuba Mar 2014 #22
And there is oversight treestar Mar 2014 #58
No, but ProSense Mar 2014 #10
The AG works for the President. Obama needs no outside authority to order the AG to enforce the law. Scuba Mar 2014 #24
Remember Glass-Steagall? ProSense Mar 2014 #27
Are you suggesting that no crimes were committed? Scuba Mar 2014 #30
No, and I provided links to several high-profile convictions. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #31
What's your excuse for the criminals who were not prosecuted? Scuba Mar 2014 #32
Please reread my comment, unless you want me to repost it. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #35
Please don't repost it; DU's storage is stressed enough! But I can't find in there any excuse ... Scuba Mar 2014 #40
I'm fairly certain ProSense Mar 2014 #42
Any excuse for not criminally prosecuting the laundering of drug money, or is that legal now? Scuba Mar 2014 #44
So you want to focus on the one case you posted where HSBC was fined? ProSense Mar 2014 #46
Are you saying that laundering drug money is legal now that Glass-Steagall has been repealed? Scuba Mar 2014 #50
Silliness. The company was convicted and fined. You posted the link. ProSense Mar 2014 #54
Convicted of CIVIL, not CRIMINAL charges, fined a fraction of their gains. Scuba Mar 2014 #64
Here's what ProSense Mar 2014 #69
So if some were prosecuted and some were not... randome Mar 2014 #36
Yes. Gave one of them cufflinks too. Scuba Mar 2014 #38
So your main complaint is that Obama hasn't prosecuted enough people. randome Mar 2014 #76
I haven't ignored the good he has done. I just want more of it, and less malfeasance. Scuba Mar 2014 #79
Got it. randome Mar 2014 #94
Clearly, not mopping fast enough Sheepshank Mar 2014 #99
It is an incredible post mcar Mar 2014 #8
Thank you for this post brush Mar 2014 #9
I totally agree samplegirl Mar 2014 #18
What a rare gem for DU. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #21
The analogy doesn't work for me marions ghost Mar 2014 #25
+1 Scuba Mar 2014 #34
Thank you albino65 Mar 2014 #29
Ahh, so you see where we are going..... Glitterati Mar 2014 #41
And who are you alerting? albino65 Mar 2014 #48
Why do you care? Glitterati Mar 2014 #49
And... albino65 Mar 2014 #52
would you please put me on ignore? Gosh that would be great. Thanks. Sheepshank Mar 2014 #102
Sure, just as soon as I finish policing Glitterati Mar 2014 #104
am I policing and alerting your posts? Sheepshank Mar 2014 #106
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #107
oh my....if I addressed you more directly would that speed things up? Sheepshank Mar 2014 #111
You're outta control with your hateon Obama supporters. Since you're bragging about putting Cha Apr 2014 #165
K&R Whisp Mar 2014 #33
I could not have said it better! We must be of similar age . . Because I remember the Carter/Reagan Liberal In Red State Mar 2014 #45
Thank you, Johnny Ringo, for the trip down memory lane mountain grammy Mar 2014 #47
We should NOT be defensive nor discouraged from speaking up marions ghost Mar 2014 #82
No, we shouldn't, and I see plenty of dissent on this thread mountain grammy Mar 2014 #91
Way too much over-reaction to this marions ghost Mar 2014 #98
+1 nt F4lconF16 Mar 2014 #119
Our enemies aren't guessing.. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #125
I agree they are the enemy but marions ghost Mar 2014 #133
It wasn't just a "used car salesman". it was a piece of shit used car salesman" and "fuck you mr Cha Apr 2014 #166
You know what I find interesting????? Sheepshank Mar 2014 #105
So what? marions ghost Mar 2014 #109
do you actually think that those who counter anti Obama rhetoric Sheepshank Mar 2014 #113
Not the point marions ghost Mar 2014 #115
Great Post - Thzank you very much Perseus Mar 2014 #51
Do not feel bad about voting for "Saint Ronnie" tiredtoo Mar 2014 #55
this stg81 Mar 2014 #57
My disgust and disappointment in ronald reagan has not been tempered by time... Tikki Mar 2014 #59
Let me share something I found in the internet a long time ago... JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #149
I live nearby and have never been able to bring myself to go there. Tikki Apr 2014 #150
These are the good old days? abelenkpe Mar 2014 #60
+++ marions ghost Mar 2014 #95
But over on the Cosmos thread some are criticizing the use of animation and f/x. Tikki Mar 2014 #100
My nine year old Loves Cosmos abelenkpe Mar 2014 #101
Everyone has there most important platform samplegirl Mar 2014 #130
So this UNION guy listened to the "malcontents"... ljm2002 Mar 2014 #61
Great Post Samplegirl. mikekohr Mar 2014 #63
+1 DinahMoeHum Mar 2014 #88
thanks, i would have missed this. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #65
"spoiled baby boomers who grew up with color TVs, Sansui stereos, and a new sedan in the garage WinkyDink Mar 2014 #66
Have always seen... zentrum Mar 2014 #67
You are pretty well spot on. Thanks for the post. greatlaurel Mar 2014 #68
Pretty much sums it up. freshwest Apr 2014 #161
I wonder how many presidental elections it will take Sheepshank Mar 2014 #70
Well written. To save others the time, here's a summary: "Vote Democrat anyway" Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #72
Thank you for reposting this. I, like so many others, missed it the first time around. There has okaawhatever Mar 2014 #73
"Not as bad" is piss poor advertising. "Not as bad" is piss poor governance. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #74
Samplegirl, thank you for a very thoughtful and insightful post. I feel you. kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #78
Thank you for drawing my attention to one of the best things I've read on DU in a long time.... Rowdyboy Mar 2014 #80
Republicans behind unpopularity of all 3 presidents ErikJ Mar 2014 #81
Correct. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #84
Not the same. A bunch of hippie hating conservative Democrats voted for Reagan Zorra Mar 2014 #83
Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #86
Cenk Uygur used to be a Republican... ljm2002 Mar 2014 #134
Same here Zorra Doctor_J Mar 2014 #143
"I agree with them on everything, except in their futile exercise of voting for third party nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #162
Unrecommended completely. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #85
Agree completely. Glitterati Mar 2014 #87
Yup. Essentially another "sit down and shut up" post. Which I already read when it was first posted. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #144
it was a long winded way of saying liberals should stay in the closet becase pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #154
I had the privilege of voting for both McGovern and Carter. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #163
"one of the prime reasons Nixon entered the Oval Office that year" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #89
Thanks, samplegirl/JohnnyRingo. DinahMoeHum Mar 2014 #90
Huge K&R! Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #92
Yes, we need to be more specific and call for LIBERAL POLICIES, not just... polichick Mar 2014 #93
When Abbie Hoffman supported McGovern, he was vilified by his own. byronius Mar 2014 #96
It is because we have so few Liberals in government marions ghost Mar 2014 #114
Hold on there, a sec -- byronius Mar 2014 #120
Agree! mountain grammy Mar 2014 #126
C'mon... marions ghost Mar 2014 #132
excellent post , please make this an OP nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #124
Thank You!!! nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #152
That's what I'm saying, though less eloquently. Great post. cheapdate Apr 2014 #160
i bet carter did not have a cockblocking opposition thwarting any + all change, pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #108
K&R kristopher Mar 2014 #110
In short RobertEarl Mar 2014 #112
Fantastic post. thucythucy Mar 2014 #117
So well written! Must read K&R B Calm Mar 2014 #121
My personal lessons from history: JDPriestly Mar 2014 #122
k&r nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #123
Kick Squinch Mar 2014 #127
Johnny brought me to D.U. samplegirl Mar 2014 #128
Love this, samplegirl! calimary Mar 2014 #131
I am a BIG JohnnyRingo fan. Have been for a long time Number23 Mar 2014 #135
Thank you UtahLib Mar 2014 #138
false equivalence, demanding a President do the right thing, re: spying, fracking, war, torture, etc pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #140
Agreed. I will not vote conservative. GoneFishin Mar 2014 #142
thanks for have the courage to demand something better than what we have nt pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #153
You make my point completely. JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #146
Thanks for the reply, I talk about principals pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #151
Yep. And I am not swayed by the meme that "a sliver of success is better than no success at all". GoneFishin Apr 2014 #167
The policies of the conservatives in this admin have moved the nation hard right for generations pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #168
You are preaching to the choir. Sorry I did not make that clear. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #170
You're last sentence is deeply insulting JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #171
On a final note... JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #172
Thank you for the post. revmclaren Mar 2014 #145
I like the post. I can't handle the squabbling family disfunctional dinner table commentary. NBachers Apr 2014 #148
Thank you, samplegirl and JohnnyRingo! Cha Apr 2014 #156
Awesome! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #157
kick B Calm Apr 2014 #164
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