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224. Denying basic mathematics is fooling one's self.

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:56 AM

Apr 2014

The only way any party wins any election (chicanery excepted) is by turning out votes. And your assumption that Indies do not vote Reep is not supported by recent returns.

Your argument fails because it is entirely based on assumptions: and those assumptions are incorrect.

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Nine reasons to get off our asses and VOTE, God-Fucking-dammit: [View all] riqster Apr 2014 OP

but, but, I have heard some say there is no difference between the two parties? If your OP does not lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #1

The OP does show such a difference. riqster Apr 2014 #4

They have their "principles" to keep them warm at night.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #5

Yup. While some of their fellow citizens freeze and starve. riqster Apr 2014 #7

Why, why, why? Glitterati Apr 2014 #8

I am taking a slam at SOME of them...not all... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #9

No, you're not Glitterati Apr 2014 #10

I explained myself...I don't owe you jacksh*t VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #13

You're exactly right, and I don't owe you jackshit either Glitterati Apr 2014 #15

Then GOOOOO! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #17

I've got a problem with what you do to this community Glitterati Apr 2014 #22

So you are the "Deciderer" of DU now? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #29

Why, no. Glitterati Apr 2014 #36

I have only alerted on this board that I recall twice.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #40

Right......and I should believe you why? Glitterati Apr 2014 #48

Look in the mirror AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #47

Irony is thick Glitterati Apr 2014 #50

I do know he's a BIG Freakin' Hypocrite.. Cha Apr 2014 #184

"He" is a she Glitterati Apr 2014 #194

Nailed it. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #21

So you disagree with Bernie Sanders too? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #33

You're not defending a damned thing. Glitterati Apr 2014 #38

+1 Marr Apr 2014 #216

Hm, just perused Bernie's site... beerandjesus Apr 2014 #39

I am giving the exact quote by Bernie Sanders yesterday.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #44

YEAH! You FINALLY GET IT! Glitterati Apr 2014 #53

I have been supporting DEMOCRATS all along....I am not one that has Bashed VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #54

ROFL, still lost in the wilderness, I see Glitterati Apr 2014 #55

I see you ran out of "pithy" remarks... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #57

I'm just laughing at your attempt to do exactly what Bernie Sanders said NOT to do Glitterati Apr 2014 #60

I gave the EXACT quote....are you denying that he said it? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #70

Wow. Just. Lost. Glitterati Apr 2014 #74

We MUST defend the progress that has been made.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #136

You're always supportive of some Democratic *politicians*. Marr Apr 2014 #217

No I AM the Rank and File....I support the Democrats...you don't hear me say.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #246

Well, so are we. Marr Apr 2014 #248

then it is NOT ABOUT you.....who is this WE you are defending? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #251

You've referred to 'people who bash Democrats' several times now. Marr Apr 2014 #252

Nice attempt at turning this around. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #56

I bashed some DU'ers.....not Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #59

ROFL Glitterati Apr 2014 #61

Still nothing from you? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #65

What part of Glitterati Apr 2014 #71

then WHY do you keep responding? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #80

Context. Glitterati Apr 2014 #96

Perhaps you should use the Internet before you post... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #117

LOL, I see you still don't understand the word "We" Glitterati Apr 2014 #120

I understand it more than you can spell Hypocritical.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #123

Awwww, poor thing. Glitterati Apr 2014 #124

Said the person that couldn't spell.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #129

Thread topic: The Supreme Court Glitterati Apr 2014 #132

This is Democratic Underground and YOU are not President of it... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #134

I'm certain the OP appreciates Glitterati Apr 2014 #135

I made a statement and YOU commented on it....and continue to VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #138

ROFL Glitterati Apr 2014 #140

NO it is EXACTLY what this thread is about.....regardless of your trolling otherwise... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #143

Yawn, more logic fail Glitterati Apr 2014 #157

Just because you don't understand....doesn't mean it is illogical... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #159

If the post is nothing how can it be HangOnKids Apr 2014 #78

I don't feel slammed at all. Walk away Apr 2014 #202

That is EXACTLY what they want.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #241

Hopefully, they are so few in number (in the real world)... Walk away Apr 2014 #249

Yeah...I think here is where that happens.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #250

Yes AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #14

God help the rest of us if we don't win the Midterms.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #16

Principles be damned! AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #19

take your precious priniciples and stick them.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #23

Those with no principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #43

So you are NOT voting in the midterms? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #46

lol AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #49

^^^^ This message brought to you by... beerandjesus Apr 2014 #25

AMEN! n/t Glitterati Apr 2014 #30

Uh this message is actually brought to you by Bernie Sanders... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #51

You mean the ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #146

+1 riqster Apr 2014 #197

No one is going to agree with all of our principles treestar Apr 2014 #31

Awoman treestar! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #52

Perfectly stated, Treestar. riqster Apr 2014 #58

Completely agree! beerandjesus Apr 2014 #64

Neither am I..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #81

Jesus Christ. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #83

Kumbaya NOW....as expected... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #85

So I suggest that we might be on the same side, and you attack yet again? beerandjesus Apr 2014 #95

Bwahahahahaha! Glitterati Apr 2014 #98

Sounds good, but send 'em to Staples so Mitt Romney gets some of the profits! beerandjesus Apr 2014 #102

Hmmm, no Staples locally Glitterati Apr 2014 #104

Vanilla's gotten quiet.... beerandjesus Apr 2014 #110

Can't be! Glitterati Apr 2014 #122

Uh people sleep sometimes.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #240

Yeah I AM a piece of work....are you working to defend our progress or NOT? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #118

Well, I'm not accusing Democrats of working for the Republicans... beerandjesus Apr 2014 #126

then it wasn't ABOUT you.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #127

Heads up, Vanilla. Glitterati Apr 2014 #128

Heads up Glitterati...Democrats decide on Supreme Court Justices...... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #130

Just FYI, this thread has nothing to do with Health Care Glitterati Apr 2014 #131

FYI I was defending the upcoming Midterms and WHY supporting Democrats is important VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #133

So sad. Glitterati Apr 2014 #141

Here is the thread title... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #144

No need for that AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #168

ROFL, I know Glitterati Apr 2014 #183

How quickly your demand went from "vote for Dems" to "don't ever criticize Dems". Marr Apr 2014 #223

SCOTUS Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #149

Shhhh. Never link cause and effect. riqster Apr 2014 #158

So we should have no principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #167

Yes, that's what I said Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #170

Or at least.... AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #171

Hey, at this point it's your story Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #172

I'd say that expediency is far less a fantasy... riqster Apr 2014 #198

Who's not voting? beerandjesus Apr 2014 #205

The Waffle Poster by their own admission. riqster Apr 2014 #207

The republicans have corrupt principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #210

No, the Repubs win because they consistently GOTV. riqster Apr 2014 #214

Republicans win because they stick to their core beliefs AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #219

Denying basic mathematics is fooling one's self. riqster Apr 2014 #224

Your line of thinking AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #229

Data does not back up your hypothesis. riqster Apr 2014 #230

When we actually believe in something AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #231

If we are so feckless and unprincipled, how did we win 2008 and 2012? riqster Apr 2014 #232

Tell me how AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #233

Nice dodge. riqster Apr 2014 #236

Many people here do AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #237

It isn't either/or. One feeds the other, in a virtuous cycle. riqster Apr 2014 #238

Without principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #243

What makes you think we all have leftynyc Apr 2014 #193

I'm not talking about personal principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #211

Everyone has their own issues leftynyc Apr 2014 #234

I'm talking about traditional Democratic principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #235

Issues like what? leftynyc Apr 2014 #239

Economic issues AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #242

I'm sorry I disagree with you on this leftynyc Apr 2014 #247

Yet people still fall for it... AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #253

Fall for what? leftynyc Apr 2014 #254

And, DARE to put them over personality! n/t Glitterati Apr 2014 #18

Is that what you would say Bernie Sanders is doing? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #24

I think you misunderstood Bernie Sanders Glitterati Apr 2014 #28

NO I did NOT misunderstand Bernie Sanders...exact quote.. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #35

What part of WE don't you understand? Glitterati Apr 2014 #42

I told those DU'rs who are denying that the Affordable Care Act is progress VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #77

Care to cite where anyone on this board says they despise Obama? HangOnKids Apr 2014 #91

I can think of a poster or two who seem to despise Democrats. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #105

Indeed excellent point HangOnKids Apr 2014 #107

No, here's what I know Glitterati Apr 2014 #93

BINGO HangOnKids Apr 2014 #97

Anyone who says... AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #63

Oh yeah right.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #67

Do you have any interests AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #208

I have interest in ACTUALLY making progress...not just dreaming about it.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #244

Did Bernie Sanders give up his principles to say that, Progressive dog Apr 2014 #204

Thank you....I am not the most eloquent....I am more of the brutally honest type! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #245

Bernie has principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #45

AND his principles say Support President Obama and the Affordable Care Act.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #62

What do YOURS say? AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #66

I have supported President Obama AND the Affordable Care Act VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #68

And how does short sightedness AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #72

then YOU were not who it was directed at.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #82

Perfect example Glitterati Apr 2014 #100

I will repeat AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #109

Voting against Repubes is not short-term thinking. riqster Apr 2014 #199

Quaking in fear of your own basic principles AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #209

Fear of principles? No. Awareness of consequences, yes. riqster Apr 2014 #212

Ever wonder how Republicans win elections? AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #213

See my post 214. riqster Apr 2014 #221

See post #219 AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #222

Yes lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #6

"Naderesque fuckwits". Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #112

Awesome graphic. riqster Apr 2014 #113

Awesome sense of history. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #121

S'truth. riqster Apr 2014 #137

Oh, the irony. beerandjesus Apr 2014 #160

Mathematically, it IS a winner-take-all contest, but is rarely sporting these days. riqster Apr 2014 #161

Skinner's excellent post on today's vote and the partisan breakdown: riqster Apr 2014 #2

Yep. k&r. nt. sufrommich Apr 2014 #3

This is a good reason why Democrats needs to vote, run candidates Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #11

K&R wandy Apr 2014 #12

voting should be kpete Apr 2014 #20

Give voters a tax deduction. That will do it. riqster Apr 2014 #125

Oh but it's just so hard! treestar Apr 2014 #26

Mmmrmph? Whaddjasay? riqster Apr 2014 #139

Hey, genius, Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #27

He might be preaching to the choir, but non-choir members will see this too. FSogol Apr 2014 #34

How I wish that I were. riqster Apr 2014 #37

What State do you live in? What results did you get last midterms? Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #69

We have one DU'er that thinks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #76

Yes, that is one example. Sad. riqster Apr 2014 #88

We elected nothing but Democrats and broke turn out records in 2010 here. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #94

But that is because of the zealots here nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #101

"As a reporter I cannot belong to any party." zappaman Apr 2014 #145

Waffles, its the reality. Watching the RW constantly make gains while listening to the various Katashi_itto Apr 2014 #169

For God's sake! zappaman Apr 2014 #173

I do understand but the zealots nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #174

If we show up and vote dem, we will win. riqster Apr 2014 #176

Not guaranteed, and the zealots here are now actually depresing the vote nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #179

Thus my GOTV posts. riqster Apr 2014 #181

You are well intentioned but your friends are depressing democratic voters nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #182

Which friends? riqster Apr 2014 #189

Anybody basing their vote on something sufrommich Apr 2014 #196

Or someone who can't take responsibility for their own choices. riqster Apr 2014 #200

Don't blame others for your choices. riqster Apr 2014 #177

Maybe 3 or 4 compared to the tens of thousands Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #99

Your question is specious, and thus not answerable. riqster Apr 2014 #108

I don't know anyone on this board who is a Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #148

Once again, "3 or 4" is an invention on your part. riqster Apr 2014 #152

I said that's all I've seen. Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #153

You presume to define "useful"? riqster Apr 2014 #162

K & R. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #32

Well, five reasons anyway. Brigid Apr 2014 #41

I'd say all nine, both sides of the coin. riqster Apr 2014 #73

The actual historical fact about Scalia.. TRoN33 Apr 2014 #75

Interesting! riqster Apr 2014 #79

Also underlines the vast stupidity of the 'moderates' who called themselves 'Reagan Democrats' Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #87

Indeed. riqster Apr 2014 #89

But but but iandhr Apr 2014 #84

Yep. Principles are reasons for action, not actions in themselves riqster Apr 2014 #90

GOTV 2014 and Beyond! MineralMan Apr 2014 #86

Damn skippy! riqster Apr 2014 #92

Oooh, is American Idol on? progressoid Apr 2014 #103

Well, not many people are trying to suppress THOSE voters. riqster Apr 2014 #114

Supress the Idol voters? There would be blood in the streets if that happened. progressoid Apr 2014 #155

Sad but true. riqster Apr 2014 #156

Sad if true. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #164

Meh, they're all alike no difference between Dems and GOP who cares doesn't make any difference calimary Apr 2014 #106

Oh how true. riqster Apr 2014 #111

A link to EarlG's awesome pic: riqster Apr 2014 #115

I voted so much, that they changed my district They_Live Apr 2014 #116

Gerrymandering sure as hell doesn't help, that is for sure. riqster Apr 2014 #119

There is NO difference between the parties, so I am told. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #142

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. riqster Apr 2014 #150

*********** KICK. REC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **************** nt MADem Apr 2014 #147

A lot of people voted in 2000, it didn't matter Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #151

Wrong. Sorry, but you are not correct. riqster Apr 2014 #154

Yet you still have many on this board who say there is no difference between the R & Ds. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #163

Ah yes, the Naderoids. riqster Apr 2014 #165

Naderoids? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #166

Thanks. riqster Apr 2014 #175

And then there is the Black Caucus that had ZERO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #186

I don't see how calling for GOTV is suppressing the vote. riqster Apr 2014 #191

You are calling people names nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #220

Blaming a GOTV advocate for voter suppression is ludicrous. riqster Apr 2014 #226

I am pointing out that calling people names will have the nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #228

DING DING DING... WINNER! beerandjesus Apr 2014 #206

Great minds, riq.. Cha Apr 2014 #178

Yeah, I linked to them upthread. riqster Apr 2014 #180

No worries.. good on you.. great minds! :) Cha Apr 2014 #185

Back atcha, Cha! riqster Apr 2014 #192

KICK! Cha Apr 2014 #195

Since $$$ = speech, the Kochs have A LOT MORE speech than any of us combined. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #187

And Supreme inJustice Roberts has the George W. Bush sh!t-eating smirk down cold. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #188

Q: what is the only tangible thing ever to have come out of Roberts' mouth? riqster Apr 2014 #190

OUR asses? Iggo Apr 2014 #201

Yeah, that was an imperfect pronoun choice on my part. riqster Apr 2014 #203

I love that passion, keep it up!!! Rex Apr 2014 #215

Glad you like it. riqster Apr 2014 #218

That's okay, let them...we are going to TROUNCE the GOP! Rex Apr 2014 #225

Hear, hear! riqster Apr 2014 #227