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Boom Sound 416

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47. I have no idea about what?? I've got 7 fully involved structures under my belt.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

Paid to sleep??? It's called a shift. It's 12 hours. Usually 8 to 8. They work so many days a week and shift to the day shift for so many days a week. They also have families; kids that go to school and a real life that doesn't operate from 8p to 8a.

You cut down trees at 4am.

Sleep is bit exaggerated. Some fire houses like the house of pain in DC have a call every 45 minutes.

If they are sleeping. They deserve it. If that siren goes off. The are dressed and rolling out in 30 seconds. No exaggeration.

Should this level of ceremony be extended to everyone who dies on the job? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #1
I doubt that I will.. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #2
+1 Hekate Apr 2014 #3
Thank you Hekate~ sheshe2 Apr 2014 #5
+ another 1 calimary Apr 2014 #98
The 2009 fatality rate for firefighters was 4.4 per 100,000. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #11
Nothing says selfless bravery like commercial fishermen Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #16
And you have the gall to call me callous? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #19
I stand by that Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #22
Yes because them dying is OK to you? Like coal miners also I guess. nt Logical Apr 2014 #33
That is not what was said and you damn well know that! nt sheshe2 Apr 2014 #36
I imagine that should a group of coal miners perish... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #60
because you stunk up a thread about a firefighter's funeral CreekDog Apr 2014 #85
Spot on. nt. Rex Apr 2014 #119
Right on the money. IronGate Apr 2014 #127
Right on! marew Apr 2014 #152
The firefighters low fatality rate is a tribute to extraordinary and constant training. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #24
Firefighters’ mourning rituals steeped in tradition sheshe2 Apr 2014 #39
Your thoughts on post 71 Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #117
You have at least one vote of support here. DaveJ Apr 2014 #174
Yeah, and they do it just about everywhere else RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #51
Beautifully said MissDeeds Apr 2014 #116
I don't understand it either. A coal miners death is just as tragic. Or a nurse who helps people. nt Logical Apr 2014 #4
Required? Not sure, but employers are welcome to honor their fallen, if they want to. cyberswede Apr 2014 #6
... sheshe2 Apr 2014 #18
It's tradition, and a good one at that JJChambers Apr 2014 #7
This post Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #8
+1 badtoworse Apr 2014 #10
... because it is callous to suggest that a farmer or fisherman deserves this show of respect? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #13
But I'd take a guess that's not what you're suggesting at all Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #17
ABSOLUTELY NOT- LiberalElite Apr 2014 #23
Excellent point. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #79
farmers and fisherman would be honored by their COMMUNITY- a concept that seems to be losing its KittyWampus Apr 2014 #56
in the first response to the thread you questioned why anyone should be paid for attending CreekDog Apr 2014 #74
No, as is obvious to anyone who actually read it, I questioned whether EVERYONE should. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #104
I'm not suprised kcr Apr 2014 #30
No other job (other than the police), even approaches the level of camaraderie, and family VScott Apr 2014 #12
well put! The union has a lot to do with it. It's a brotherhood (ppl-hood) sisterhood we're all in juxtaposed Apr 2014 #106
This post just took my breath away - LiberalElite Apr 2014 #20
"Seems to me it's up to the loggers, fishermen, members of whatever... to do the same if they wish" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #21
hey - you can read whatever LiberalElite Apr 2014 #25
Wth? Firefighter unity is a beautiful thing BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #29
No One Said That! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #31
Out of curiosity....... WillowTree Apr 2014 #32
They do. Just no TV cameras. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #58
Next time one of your comrades goes down, arrange for the cameras to be there. IronGate Apr 2014 #130
Your analogy is callous. bluestate10 Apr 2014 #26
I remember in a thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #171
wow, callous much? dionysus Apr 2014 #27
What the fucking fuck are you about anyway? lonestarnot Apr 2014 #34
He is mad that a group of people give a fuck about their fallen commrade, I guess? Rex Apr 2014 #120
Most insensitive post this year. we can do it Apr 2014 #37
Actually, it does get worse... mtnester Apr 2014 #145
Actually, I have had a job like that. Stonepounder Apr 2014 #172
you must be a lot of fun at funerals CreekDog Apr 2014 #41
Spoken by someone who's never run in while everyone else is running out Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #42
a) you have no idea. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #43
You have got to be fucking kidding. cyberswede Apr 2014 #44
I think the poster to whom I replied is thinking of police. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #45
What? cyberswede Apr 2014 #49
No, I get it. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #52
I have no general disdain for cops and take a fair amount of heat on this site for that position. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #54
Furthermore cops get the same treatment Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #57
This thread is about firefighters, isn't it? cyberswede Apr 2014 #59
Actually, it appears to be about me. Which is okay. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #62
BS Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #65
here lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #69
This is based on hours worked. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #71
Based on 2009 figures, a firefighter has 4.4 chances in 100,000 to die on the job this year. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #122
Oy vay Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #123
these guys RUSH INTO BURNING BUILDINGS Skittles Apr 2014 #173
In the case of fire fighters... cyberswede Apr 2014 #70
I don't understand the distinction. I don't know why "it just isn't the same". lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #94
I guess you'd have to ask people with those other occupations why it isn't the same. cyberswede Apr 2014 #109
you know what? let's talk about how you don't rapists who cause pregnancies to pay child support CreekDog Apr 2014 #84
I always envisioned that your keyboard has two buttons. "Ad Hominem" and "Non Sequitur". lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #95
Ad Hominem arguments are often valid CreekDog Apr 2014 #96
because you made a post about a funeral about you CreekDog Apr 2014 #91
You don't get it, firefighters are often first on scene, especially paramedics. we can do it Apr 2014 #149
Quite true. IronGate Apr 2014 #150
you saved all these observations for the funeral thread CreekDog Apr 2014 #90
you'll always be remembered for one statement CreekDog Apr 2014 #108
Re: Firefighters Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #46
I have no idea about what?? I've got 7 fully involved structures under my belt. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #47
The firefighters I know work 24 on, 48 off. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #50
Yes that is a very common shift. So, You expect them to what Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #53
...and they can be ready and out the door very quickly when an alarm comes in. cyberswede Apr 2014 #63
how much can they actually sleep? CreekDog Apr 2014 #99
Most Fire/Resue work what's called the Kelly Schedule. IronGate Apr 2014 #132
A lot do 24 on 48 off, unless stay over or called in for overtime. we can do it Apr 2014 #154
A lot do, IronGate Apr 2014 #156
Yes my husband does 24 on 48 off 24 on 96 off - or something like that, I have never seaglass Apr 2014 #157
Ask him if he works the Kelly Schedule. IronGate Apr 2014 #159
He doesn't work the schedule you described above. It's 24 on 2 days off, 24 on 4 days off. n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #161
What a great schedule. IronGate Apr 2014 #162
You think? I hate it. He doesn't really like it either and is pretty much wasted the day following seaglass Apr 2014 #163
That's why I love the Kelly schedule. IronGate Apr 2014 #164
Yes it is union. It took years to get to the 24 hr shift - they had to show how it reduced OT seaglass Apr 2014 #165
Ok. IronGate Apr 2014 #166
You sound like those 'people' that protest soldiers' funerals. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #48
Those damn goose steeping water wasting fascists! penultimate Apr 2014 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2014 #78
So you saved this observation for the thread about the firefighter who was killed? CreekDog Apr 2014 #81
I'm hoping this thread Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #82
LJJ is Westboro-ing this funeral story CreekDog Apr 2014 #83
are you badmouthing emergency room doctors in residence? CreekDog Apr 2014 #89
You think Firefighters are paid to sleep? IronGate Apr 2014 #131
Thanks for the insight IronGate! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #133
I laugh and shake my head every time I hear that FF/Para's get paid to sleep. IronGate Apr 2014 #134
Thank you. I am sick of jealous idiots acting like it's a picnic, not work we can do it Apr 2014 #148
Thank you. IronGate Apr 2014 #151
So true, and then possibly paramedic school where if you fail some tests you are out. we can do it Apr 2014 #155
Been there, still doing that. IronGate Apr 2014 #158
Stay strong and be safe! we can do it Apr 2014 #168
In your other thread you indicated that there was one alarm between 22:00 and 06:30. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #175
Wow? This the best you can come up with? IronGate Apr 2014 #176
So, the issue isn't that you don't get paid to sleep... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #177
It wasn't really a big Nuh-uh towards you specifically, IronGate Apr 2014 #178
"one is just as important as the other" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #179
Clueless idiot we can do it Apr 2014 #147
+1,000 rudolph the red Apr 2014 #55
Some other fire fighter fun perks Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #61
Oh come on, you guys are basically glorified grass waterers and window washers... penultimate Apr 2014 #66
I'm not a ff. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #67
I hope you weren't paid while you were sleeping! cyberswede Apr 2014 #72
You bet I was!! Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #73
Ahhh... I misunderstood your post further up the thread penultimate Apr 2014 #75
Actually since cameras have gotten increasingly smaller Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #77
Since you did a series on them..... blueamy66 Apr 2014 #88
Yes, that is mostly true Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #92
Do you find that most FF that work the 24on/28off shifts have second jobs? side jobs? blueamy66 Apr 2014 #110
Oh I think the thread is thoroughly hijacked Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #111
One more question please. blueamy66 Apr 2014 #112
Fair enough. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #113
Interesting about the one that was saved as a child. blueamy66 Apr 2014 #114
Here's a blurb on him Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #115
So you're a videographer? I guess the "seven fully involved structure fires" confused me. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #101
Videographers do weddings my friend. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #102
... Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #68
Appears that no one got your sarcasm. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #76
Cynicism not sarcasm. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #80
That seems kinda troll-y cyberswede Apr 2014 #86
Trying my best to give them the benefit of the doubt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #100
Therefore everyone else is a dim reactionist? Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #103
You think concern trolling is sarcastic absurdity? Rex Apr 2014 #121
Yes and yes, if the workers have a collective bargaining agreement with that stipulation. Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #87
Should the UAW or Teamsters include that stipulation? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #105
I already answered that question. n/t Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #107
What a horrible rw reaction! FSogol Apr 2014 #93
If their want to colleagues step up and show that kind of camaraderie Codeine Apr 2014 #124
So, in summary lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #125
Where the fuck do you get that from my post? Codeine Apr 2014 #126
I wasn't intending to direct it at you, but to comment on the thread in general. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #128
Oh, yes he usually is. Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #146
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Apr 2014 #135
Thanks for sharing. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #136
Here's an inoffensive question for you Renew Deal Apr 2014 #137
And yet you still didn't answer the question. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #138
No, only to those who die as a result of knowingly taking a risk in a good cause. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #169
In a word...yes! jmowreader Apr 2014 #170
I just had a good cry looking at all of the pics at the Globe link Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #9
Thank you, Capt. Obvious. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #14
Sorry that was the only response for hours Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #28
I am so very sorry for your brother in laws loss of his friend, Lt. Edward Walsh. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #35
A big stinking floating turd at that. we can do it Apr 2014 #38
How very sad, she.. bless their Fire Fighting Hearts.. Cha Apr 2014 #15
Boston firefighters honor their own. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #40
.. Cha Apr 2014 #118
I'm sorry this has been taken over by someone begrudging them their mourning ritual and ceremony. Blue Diadem Apr 2014 #97
Me too... marew Apr 2014 #153
Courageous men and woman ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #129
They are. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #140
Heartbreaking. Especially on top of all the anniversary commentary on the Marathon FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #139
Thank you FailureToCommunicate. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #142
Yes, it was all too close. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #144
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #141
Welcome to DU, Dee Bates~ sheshe2 Apr 2014 #143
Most of the firefighters where I live Tsiyu Apr 2014 #160
Thank you for your kind post, Tsiyu. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #167
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