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ipaint

(3,270 posts)
41. no.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:58 PM
Apr 2014

I am saying that public accountability (public power) is not an item to be traded-off no matter how wonderful the supposed advancement. Public education is not a prize to be won by whatever billionaire can bid highest and saturate the media with the necessary barrage of PR and feel good "it's no different than any other standard" propaganda.

I am truly amazed that people will willingly jump a cliff for such small immediate gains. You are looking at the final chapter in the history of public education.

Common core is a means to an end. Testing. That's the goal. That's where the money is.

And I am not referring to "people making money at it" as if I were criticizing a mom and pop entrepreneur. The people I'm am referring to own the supreme court, most politicians and increasingly your profession.

They want to own, control and corruptly profit from your kid's lifetime of work productivity.

The attack began with Reagan's "Nation at Risk" report that said public schools where failing and the Sandia study that proved scientifically just the opposite but was never publicized and has continued non stop until today. Now we have democrats declaring that the a few billionaires setting national education standards (by buying off states one by one) for profit is o.k. with me because my kid learns fine or my school is coping or the standards are good enough so what could be wrong?

There is a history, they lied then, they have lied since then and they are lying now.

"One section, for example, analyzed SAT scores between the late 1970s and 1990, a period when those scores slipped markedly. ("A Nation at Risk" spotlighted the decline of scores from 1963 to 1980 as dead-bang evidence of failing schools.) The Sandia report, however, broke the scores down by various subgroups, and something astonishing emerged. Nearly every subgroup -- ethnic minorities, rich kids, poor kids, middle class kids, top students, average students, low-ranked students -- held steady or improved during those years. Yet overall scores dropped. How could that be?

Simple -- statisticians call it Simpson's paradox: The average can change in one direction while all the subgroups change in the opposite direction if proportions among the subgroups are changing. Early in the period studied, only top students took the test. But during those twenty years, the pool of test takers expanded to include many lower-ranked students. Because the proportion of top students to all students was shrinking, the scores inevitably dropped. That decline signified not failure but rather progress toward what had been a national goal: extending educational opportunities to a broader range of the population.

By then, however, catastrophically failing schools had become a political necessity. George H.W. Bush campaigned to replace Reagan as president on a promise to confront the crisis. He had just called an education summit to tackle it, so there simply had to be a crisis.

The government never released the Sandia report. It went into peer review and there died a quiet death. Hardly anyone else knew it even existed until, in 1993, the Journal of Educational Research, read by only a small group of specialists, printed the report."

http://www.edutopia.org/landmark-education-report-nation-risk

You really want to let the same people who have attacked public education for 3 decades buy the system, set the standards and profit from the results. All because the standards are ok.

There is a 500 billion pot of taxpayer money out there and the vultures are circling.

"Although the marketplace for education services and products is strong on the margins, the structure of the American educational system creates considerable obstacles for companies that would like to offer complete kindergarten through 12th grade services: entrepreneurs attempting to open schools face regulatory barriers and competition from “free” government schools supported by state funds.

Policymakers interested in improving America’s education system should eliminate financial biases against edupreneurs by adopting policies, such as tax cuts and universal tuition tax credits, that would return education purchasing power to individuals. Such policies would begin to loosen the government’s monopoly on education and allow the natural growth of a vibrant education marketplace."

http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/edupreneurs-survey-profit-education



We wil never be able to make public education sing Agony Apr 2014 #1
This is true. Education is an ECONOMIC issue (not just profitmaking for corprats) n/t Triana Apr 2014 #5
Well, we all know that is never going to happen. nt femmocrat Apr 2014 #40
And rid ourselves of that pond scum called Republicans nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #58
All too frequently, chervilant Apr 2014 #2
The Answer Is No ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #7
And... chervilant Apr 2014 #73
He should have asked to correct any quotes. Igel Apr 2014 #20
Too few 'professionals' are eloquent speakers. n/t chervilant Apr 2014 #72
Business Profiteers making Educational and Education Psychological and Sociological Decisions DhhD Apr 2014 #3
I know top notch professors/department heads that have taken early RKP5637 Apr 2014 #4
+1,000 malaise Apr 2014 #9
Thanks!!! I have it saved to watch later! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #11
Common Core Standards are being attacked by the rightwing. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #6
Was This The Environment When You Were In School? ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #8
God, I had to switch from Old Math to New Math in 4th grade... malthaussen Apr 2014 #12
In Old Math and New Math, one used the memorized multiplication tables. Core is DhhD Apr 2014 #23
Same here! snot Apr 2014 #24
Standardized testing "by the state" Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #13
SAT was optional, and not used to evaluate teachers. malthaussen Apr 2014 #26
SAT was just one example. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #36
We use the ACT in Michigan. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #54
Glad I didn't live in your state. malthaussen Apr 2014 #38
No. First Standardized Test i Ever Took Was SAT ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #61
EASA 1965 required standardized testing Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #62
I Went To A Private School ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #74
Oh well of course you forgot to mention that in your dishonest rebuttal. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #75
the difference is questionseverything Apr 2014 #77
First it was testing was a horror. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #80
are you saying funding and testing are not related? questionseverything Apr 2014 #81
You think this is about minimal standards? Seriously? ipaint Apr 2014 #15
I seriously doubt WarrenStupidity has kids in school being subjected to this madness. FourScore Apr 2014 #18
Common Core has worked unbelievably well for my little girl. Codeine Apr 2014 #27
If you changed schools the year CC was implemented, FourScore Apr 2014 #50
The most advanced school in our area "uses" Common Core cannondale Apr 2014 #30
That just proves that it's about poverty, not standards. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #33
That sounds like the right's argument about health care joeglow3 Apr 2014 #52
I usually teach in high-poverty schools. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #53
Thank you for all your comments. senseandsensibility Apr 2014 #19
I live in one of the most liberal towns in America. FourScore Apr 2014 #17
Cambridge, where this happened, KamaAina Apr 2014 #79
Have you seen how Common Core teaches math? I dont care who attacks it, its stupid. nt 7962 Apr 2014 #22
Yes, the math concepts are great cannondale Apr 2014 #28
CCSS does not mandate teaching strategies or materials, no. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #35
"lazy administration". I think you may have something there!! 7962 Apr 2014 #43
Why don't you provide the examples of the great ones. FourScore Apr 2014 #48
I'll take that as "I didn't bother to look" cannondale Apr 2014 #65
don't be condescending. I have kids in schools that been subjected this year to CC. FourScore Apr 2014 #69
CCS doesnt teach anything. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #37
IF YOU DON'T READ ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD, PLEASE READ THIS FourScore Apr 2014 #47
The story is a classic SF piece, but 7th grade?? WTF?? eridani Apr 2014 #59
Thank yuo. That's EXACTLY how I feel. n/t FourScore Apr 2014 #68
You start off with a non-reason. Igel Apr 2014 #25
CCSS are being disparaged by teachers, administrators, the right, and the left. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #32
EXACTLY!!!! FourScore Apr 2014 #45
Thank you, knitter4democracy. senseandsensibility Apr 2014 #55
This is why I refuse to work for any national campaign. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #70
So we have to support it because the right wing doesn't? That's bull. liberal_at_heart Apr 2014 #49
I seriously doubt "joy" will be an understood concept in the ballyhoo Apr 2014 #10
We need to ensure that a high school diploma is in fact a preparation hedgehog Apr 2014 #14
It would probably be more helpful to teach citizenship without making a living eridani Apr 2014 #60
Assessments in KINDERGARTEN? BuelahWitch Apr 2014 #16
Exactly! ctsnowman Apr 2014 #63
Too much testing is bad, agreed. But Common Core? cannondale Apr 2014 #21
Did you make 14 million on your high school calculus standards? ipaint Apr 2014 #29
Implementation -- so we agree cannondale Apr 2014 #31
no. ipaint Apr 2014 #41
Not only that, there are now millions of dollars that were promised to schools in NY, FourScore Apr 2014 #46
Are you involved in teaching or even helping kids with their homework? truedelphi Apr 2014 #44
Yes, still tutor kids cannondale Apr 2014 #64
Here is one dad's (my) response to a ridiculous item in his kid's textbook: cannondale Apr 2014 #67
How times have changed SummerSnow Apr 2014 #34
This is the part that drove me out of teaching: femmocrat Apr 2014 #39
I'm Glad I Was In School Before All This colsohlibgal Apr 2014 #42
I been saying it for years now. The RW will elminate Kindergarten becuase that's where kids learn Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2014 #51
COMMON CORE IS NOT A CURRICULUM. IT IS A SET OF STANDARDS FOR READING AND MATH. kwassa Apr 2014 #56
Thank you cannondale Apr 2014 #66
The Bush/Duncan profit based school model Doctor_J Apr 2014 #57
I am sorry, but I have no issue with common core nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #71
I agree... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #76
yes the problem is the testing is tied to funding questionseverything Apr 2014 #78
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