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Showing Original Post only (View all)Putin Tells NSA Leaker Snowden There’s No Mass Surveillance In Russia (updated) [View all]
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Putin Tells NSA Leaker Snowden Theres No Mass Surveillance In Russia
By Hayes Brown
Russian president Vladimir Putin had a surprise guest during his annual marathon press conference: former National Security Administration contractor, and distributor of millions of secret documents related to the spy agencys programs, Edward Snowden.
Id like to ask you a question about mass surveillance of online communications and the bulk collection of private records by intelligence and law enforcement services, Snowden began, appearing via pre-recorded question and speaking in English. The former contractor went on to cite recent decisions from the administrations review panel and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the NSAs current systems of collection are overexpansive and can be pared down without impacting its effectiveness.
Ive seen little public discussion about Russias policies on mass surveillance, he continued, so Id like to ask you: does Russia intercept, store, or analyze, in any way, the communications of millions of individuals? And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement can justify placing societies, rather than subjects, under surveillance?
Putin quickly latched onto the question once it was translated into Russian for him. Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent a spy I used to be working for an intelligence service, we are going to talk one professional language, Putin said, referring to his previous career in the KGB. When Russian special forces and other intelligence agencies collect information from phone calls or follow someone online, the Russian president said, court permission is needed to stalk a particular person. We dont have a mass system of such interception, Putin said.
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http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/04/17/3427770/putin-tells-nsa-leaker-snowden-theres-no-mass-surveillance-in-russia/
By Hayes Brown
Russian president Vladimir Putin had a surprise guest during his annual marathon press conference: former National Security Administration contractor, and distributor of millions of secret documents related to the spy agencys programs, Edward Snowden.
Id like to ask you a question about mass surveillance of online communications and the bulk collection of private records by intelligence and law enforcement services, Snowden began, appearing via pre-recorded question and speaking in English. The former contractor went on to cite recent decisions from the administrations review panel and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the NSAs current systems of collection are overexpansive and can be pared down without impacting its effectiveness.
Ive seen little public discussion about Russias policies on mass surveillance, he continued, so Id like to ask you: does Russia intercept, store, or analyze, in any way, the communications of millions of individuals? And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement can justify placing societies, rather than subjects, under surveillance?
Putin quickly latched onto the question once it was translated into Russian for him. Mr. Snowden, you are a former agent a spy I used to be working for an intelligence service, we are going to talk one professional language, Putin said, referring to his previous career in the KGB. When Russian special forces and other intelligence agencies collect information from phone calls or follow someone online, the Russian president said, court permission is needed to stalk a particular person. We dont have a mass system of such interception, Putin said.
- more -
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/04/17/3427770/putin-tells-nsa-leaker-snowden-theres-no-mass-surveillance-in-russia/
Updated to add:
The Snowden Effect, Continued
By Charles P. Pierce
This, dear boy, is a very bad move.
<...>
As it happens, I actually believe the U.S. capacity for surveillance probably is greater than that of Russia. (USA! USA!). But this "Our special services are strictly controlled by law" yadda-yadda is such hilariously arrant bullshit that Snowden ought to be embarrassed for helping to catapult it into the dialogue. If you're trying to convince people that you are a disinterested seeker of truth who happens to be in Moscow because of a variety of very strange circumstances -- The new Vanity Fair has a long piece on how Snowden came to be in Russia in which Julian Assange and the WikiLeaks people do not come off well at all -- and that you are not operating too closely with the current Russian regime, having Vladimir Putin get publicly chummy with you, spy-to-spy, is really not the way to make your case.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/edward-snowden-putin-041714
By Charles P. Pierce
This, dear boy, is a very bad move.
<...>
As it happens, I actually believe the U.S. capacity for surveillance probably is greater than that of Russia. (USA! USA!). But this "Our special services are strictly controlled by law" yadda-yadda is such hilariously arrant bullshit that Snowden ought to be embarrassed for helping to catapult it into the dialogue. If you're trying to convince people that you are a disinterested seeker of truth who happens to be in Moscow because of a variety of very strange circumstances -- The new Vanity Fair has a long piece on how Snowden came to be in Russia in which Julian Assange and the WikiLeaks people do not come off well at all -- and that you are not operating too closely with the current Russian regime, having Vladimir Putin get publicly chummy with you, spy-to-spy, is really not the way to make your case.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/edward-snowden-putin-041714
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ProSense
Apr 2014
OP
That is too hilarious! Like Bill Maher said, everytime Snowden opens his damn mouth, he says.....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#28
BTW, phone call conversations was passed to the US on the Boston Bombers and
Thinkingabout
Apr 2014
#13
What the poster refuses to acknowledge is the prevailing opinion of the American people is expressed
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#112
"Pumping up Russia over his own country". Snowden may turn out to be the best...
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#136
Well, I think everyone's waiting for the launch of GG's new media venture.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#139
Doesn't have to be everyone. Take what NSA did to Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho)
Octafish
Apr 2014
#158
True about the assholes. Wrong about spying: They are the People's representatives.
Octafish
Apr 2014
#159
I don't really care about international spying. Couldn't care less about the metadata stuff.
randome
Apr 2014
#68
Yea, right, Russia has never spied on anyone. So, Putin was answering a question
Thinkingabout
Apr 2014
#12
I guess wikipedia is blocked over there. Maybe they think it will give you the Eurogay or something
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#15
We know Putin's lying his ass off but here it is in Black and White. The Putin and Snowden show..
Cha
Apr 2014
#132
Did you see the other thread that says that Snowden is NOT a Russian spy despite the fact that Putin
Number23
Apr 2014
#141
R#6&K he should have asked if there is Ruskie Selective Service drafting forhis age group forUkraine
UTUSN
Apr 2014
#20
You believe Snowden called out Putin today, perhaps it is you that does recognize what is going on?
Ohio4theWin
Apr 2014
#61
I assume this is why Edward Snowden's favorability continues to erode in this country. He's about..
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#30
They'll only come around when some crack reporter uncovers the truth about Comrade's covert....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#160
Snowden is doing all that himself...whose bright idea was for him to show up at this circus??? nt
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#48
Maybe instead of attacking an irrelevant person every chance you can get...
Vashta Nerada
Apr 2014
#107
you are the person in this thread trying to change the subject of the op
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#108
They sure can, and your statement is borne out in American public opinion. They don't like secret..
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#113
I can't wait til it comes to light that Snowden didn't wind up in Russia by accident.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2014
#54
I was referring to the the denial that Russia performed Mass Intelligence gatherering.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2014
#83
And, the difference between Snowden and reporters who ask the same questions
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2014
#84
No, I don't. No more than I know that Jim Acosta or Major Garrett are Obama's "tools".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2014
#90
Obama denied (or, if you prefer rationalized) the mass surveillance carried out by the NSA.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2014
#96
Wonder who among the President's detractors will applaud the "thruthiness" of Putin? nt
kelliekat44
Apr 2014
#116