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In reply to the discussion: do you believe there was a historical figure the Jesus story was built on? [View all]backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)11. you're probably right and it's just day off idealism on my part
would just be nice if we could build a society based on the TRUE teachings of the bible instead of the twisted shit they serve up every Sunday to the sheep
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do you believe there was a historical figure the Jesus story was built on? [View all]
backwoodsbob
Apr 2014
OP
And yet that is all there is for an historical jesus: arguments. ZERO contemporary EVIDENCE exists.
cleanhippie
Apr 2014
#117
Among people who study this as an academic pursuit, not a religious one, they
nadinbrzezinski
Apr 2014
#132
I have been fascinated with the historicity of bible stories for a long time
nadinbrzezinski
Apr 2014
#147
But that's the point; the greatest dude in history doesn't get a mention until a century after death
Demo_Chris
Apr 2014
#103
Most believers could care less about the total lack of evidence to support the idea.
cleanhippie
Apr 2014
#118
there are reports of his brother, James. There are also tales of his family being
roguevalley
Apr 2014
#99
I agree, Nadin. Did you hear about the Jesus wife parchment? It is ruled authentic. :D
roguevalley
Apr 2014
#136
It is quite likely, though he may or may not have not much resembled the gospels
cthulu2016
Apr 2014
#21
There was a Roman historian, named Josephus, who lived at the time of Jesus, and had written about
Cal33
Apr 2014
#23
He was not a contemporary, he made only two references, and they are disputed...
Demo_Chris
Apr 2014
#105
No. Within the past ten years, I abandoned my belief in the historical figure.
John1956PA
Apr 2014
#25
Yes. I believe in him. And he was one good egg. And made the world a much better place.
applegrove
Apr 2014
#28
Not in any interesting way. The Jesus of myth is just, that and no more real than Santa.
Demo_Chris
Apr 2014
#38
There may have been a person or persons on who the Biblical Jesus was based upon
sakabatou
Apr 2014
#39
Jesus never mentioned Original Sin. Jesus and Christianity are two different things.
CJCRANE
Apr 2014
#57
First of all, those "other religions" are merely different versions of the same product.....
A HERETIC I AM
Apr 2014
#60
Could have been a great man who people loved. Maybe, when he was killed by the Romans, the common
Lint Head
Apr 2014
#52
Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth is pretty interesting read on the historical Jesus
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#65
No. I believe early Christianity was a "Mystery Cult" typical of the era
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2014
#69
If you look at the footnotes of that wikipedia link, you will see that in actuality
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2014
#77
I have read that Wikipedia account. I am glad you posted it, but I disagree with it.
John1956PA
Apr 2014
#86
Gandhi existed. And, leaving out the virgin birth, walking on water, cheating death, etc,
Squinch
Apr 2014
#73
You couldn't be more wrong. There is almost no documentation that Jesus existed,
Raksha
Apr 2014
#213
Universal Truth? The natural laws of the universe are the only UNIVERSAL TRUTHS.
cleanhippie
Apr 2014
#188
Which is fine and dandy, but have nothing to do with the objections you raised.
cleanhippie
Apr 2014
#194
Of course there was. But his message was corrupted beyond recognition by Paul & Peter
baldguy
Apr 2014
#95
I tend to agree with Ehrman based on other non-Christian scholars I've also read.
mmonk
Apr 2014
#180
I think there were two main real historical humans and then a handful of myths
Exultant Democracy
Apr 2014
#128
Well, the fact that he may or may not have existed doesn't seem to matter as much as...
Tikki
Apr 2014
#129
I do believe that there was a person who said the things that the New Testament
merrily
Apr 2014
#135
It was a slave religion that was used by rulers of a slave economy to keep their slaves in line.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#170
Nero. Pliny the Younger. The writings of Josephus. The Babylonian Talmud. Lucian.
KurtNYC
Apr 2014
#216