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MADem

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41. Sounds like she's giving him some benefit of the doubt in the actual ARTICLE, which doesn't match
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 04:21 PM
Apr 2014

the headline at all. Look at the words in the snip alone...

Unintentionally aided....

Inadvertently helped...

Intentionally or unintentionally....


I don't think her attitude towards Russia's most prominent resident (who isn't Putin, that is) is anything surprising or even a "blast." I think most Americans take that very same, nuanced view of Snowden....except here at DU, of course.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-most-think-edward-snowden-should-stand-trial-in-us/

Most Americans – 61 percent - think Snowden should have to stand trial in the United States for his actions. Far fewer – 23 percent - think he should be granted amnesty. Republicans, Democrats, and independents all agree on this as well.
Meanwhile, 31 percent approve of Snowden’s actions, while most, 54 percent, disapprove. Majorities of Republicans, Democrats, and independents disapprove.

Americans are divided as to the impact on the country from making the NSA program public. While 40 percent think the disclosure has been good for the country, 46 percent think it has been bad.

When asked to come up with a word that describes Edward Snowden, nearly a quarter volunteer either traitor or a similar word that questions his loyalty to his country, while 8 percent say he is “brave” or “courageous” or “a hero”. Just 2 percent volunteered that he is a patriot or patriotic, and another 2 percent say “terrorist”.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/edward-snowden-support_n_5071938.html
A 45 percent plurality of respondents said they think Snowden should be prosecuted for the leaks. Likewise, only 35 percent said they would support a hypothetical pardon of Snowden by President Barack Obama, while 43 percent said they would oppose it.

Snowden's supporters have advocated a pardon for Snowden, and last week former President Jimmy Carter said he would consider pardoning Snowden if he were in office.

Both Republicans (40 percent to 27 percent) and Democrats (40 percent to 26 percent) tended to say that Snowden did the wrong thing, while independents were more likely to say he did the right thing (36 percent to 26 percent). Likewise, both Democrats and Republicans were much more likely than independents to say they thought Snowden should be prosecuted.

Independents said, 61 percent to 18 percent, that Americans had a right to know about the programs Snowden revealed, making it the group most likely to say that. But pluralities of Democrats (46 percent to 29 percent) and Republicans (48 percent to 30 percent) said the same.
Why is that a surprise? djean111 Apr 2014 #1
According to Pew, her supporters are liberals... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #5
I am starting to think that liberal doesn't mean what I thought it meant. :-O djean111 Apr 2014 #9
Or, more likely, the people polled don't know what liberal means. progressoid Apr 2014 #22
...they don't.... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #28
+1 nt laundry_queen Apr 2014 #68
..it doesn't...according to pew... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #26
I guess I am missing your point. Clinton says she doesnt support a whistle-blower rhett o rick Apr 2014 #18
So you disagree with Pew's polling methodology Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #27
I didnt understand your point. Most liberals believe H. Clinton is in Wall Street's pocket. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #37
I'm not surprised that you failed to comprehend my point... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #40
Your OP had nothing to do with polling. It was just one more Snowden hit piece. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #45
Small secret: when pollsters call, you can say anything you like, even if it's not true. Scuba Apr 2014 #70
Yeah, well. She was "concerned" about the WMD in Iraq, too. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #2
She is after the conservative vote. She isnt worried about the left. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #19
Yep. She's playing to the conservatives just like she did in 2008. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #23
Plenty of conservatives agree with Snowden -- 'the government is too big and out of control' KurtNYC Apr 2014 #36
I think they look for any reason to attack the President. Conservatives may want rhett o rick Apr 2014 #38
And, plenty of liberals and centrists agree with the NSA and CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #51
Not entirely. The "positive" comes from "young Americans." Bit of a mixed bag, there, actually. MADem Apr 2014 #53
"Most Americans"? That poll is from January, this one's from April. The erosion has begun. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #56
I agree with this. bravenak Apr 2014 #3
Love how carefully she worded that. joshcryer Apr 2014 #29
I definitely think so. bravenak Apr 2014 #43
obama's foreign policy helps terrorists. is she gonna complain about that too? nt msongs Apr 2014 #4
Why not? pscot Apr 2014 #6
And it fits the polls. joshcryer Apr 2014 #31
Don't see why the popcorn smilie - djean111 Apr 2014 #7
Nah, many Obama supporters hate Clinton. joshcryer Apr 2014 #33
Hillary is still in fund raising mode tiredtoo Apr 2014 #8
but how does she feel about the surveillance state? grasswire Apr 2014 #10
Thank you Sec. Clinton. You're not the only one asking why "Russia & China". Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #11
Right. NSA apologists are asking too nt Otelo Apr 2014 #15
He would need to go to a country that doesnt have an expedition treaty with us davidn3600 Apr 2014 #16
Perhaps you should get your posts up to double digits before you try to insult me. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #17
So there's seniority here? Otelo Apr 2014 #24
Not really. Oh, and welcome back! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #25
Ok then Otelo Apr 2014 #55
Oh, okay. Well don't stay away so long next time. You were missed. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #57
Ok Mr. Seniority nt Otelo Apr 2014 #59
You seemed to like Otelo well enough Union Scribe Apr 2014 #61
Oh, I like Otelo "well enough" now. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #62
They literally post that to everyone with a low post count Union Scribe Apr 2014 #60
I see. If I held such an unpopular opinion as that of the anti-Snowden crowd... Otelo Apr 2014 #64
"newbie"... SidDithers Apr 2014 #69
any newbie with a strong opinion m-lekktor Apr 2014 #63
Au contraire! There are other reasons. The Ron Paul cultists "abound"! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #65
Finally! daschess1987 Apr 2014 #78
Leave Paul Revere alone!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #66
LOL Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #67
We could ask Comrade Snowden but that fucker Lies.. a lot. Cha Apr 2014 #76
Senator Clinton is not a moron. tritsofme Apr 2014 #12
Tick off another reason for my supporting Hillary. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #13
What do you expect? Hillary is pro-elite, pro-establishment, pro-NSA davidn3600 Apr 2014 #14
Oh Boy! This will thrill the authoritarians. Tough talk by H. Clinton-Sachs. Oh Boy! rhett o rick Apr 2014 #20
Wasn't her cat named sachs? hootinholler Apr 2014 #44
I think it's name was "Goldman-Sachs-O-Money". But not sure. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #46
"Letter from a Birmingham Jail" yowzayowzayowza Apr 2014 #21
^^ rec this post. nt TBF Apr 2014 #35
Thank you, yowzax3! MLK says it best.. Cha Apr 2014 #77
Interesting, she is worried about him too..makes sense when you think about it. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #30
"helped terrorists" You mean like our govt has been for as long as I remember? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #32
It might come to a surprise here, but the majority of people B Calm Apr 2014 #34
Now I'm confused. I'm underwhelmed by both Clinton and Snowden. randome Apr 2014 #39
Sounds like she's giving him some benefit of the doubt in the actual ARTICLE, which doesn't match MADem Apr 2014 #41
Good eye, MADem. randome Apr 2014 #42
I've noticed that a lot of publications, especially since they've migrated to the internet, are very MADem Apr 2014 #47
It's a very safe play on her part BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #48
Not a Hillary fan but Skidmore Apr 2014 #49
Easy for Hillary to say that from her safe perch Larkspur Apr 2014 #50
Once Again, Hillary chooses to STAND the WRONG side of History. bvar22 Apr 2014 #52
Yep... Way Ta Gin Up The Base Hillary... WillyT Apr 2014 #58
LOL! Popcorn? Really? Rex Apr 2014 #54
Um. the NSA is the story. Snowden is not the story. predictable, though. djean111 Apr 2014 #71
Just fucking never ends DiverDave Apr 2014 #72
I see she is getting talking points directly from Fox News now. /nt Ash_F Apr 2014 #73
How dare he go where we can't get him! n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #74
How did I Cha Apr 2014 #75
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