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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Unbearable Whiteness of the American Left [View all]
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/unbearable-whiteness-american-left
At a panel titled Grassroots Organizing at the Network for Public Education conference in Austin in March, an audience member asked the all-white panel for its definition of grassroots. The conference had been called to give voice to those opposing privatization, school closings, and high-stakes testing.
As the questioner pointed out, those disproportionately affected by these developments are poor and minority communities. Chicago, for example, a city that is one-third white, has a public school system in which 90 percent of the students are children of color and 87 percent come from low-income families. When the city schools shut down last year, 88 percent of the children affected were black; when Philadelphia did the same, the figure was 81 percent.
Youd think black people might have something to contribute to a discussion about that process and how it might be resisted. Yet on this exclusively white panel at this predominantly white conference, they had no voice.
One panelist said he found the question offensive. I didnt know it was a racial thing, he said.
In the United States, campaigns for social justice are always a racial thing. That doesnt mean they might not be about other things, too. Indeed, they invariably are. Race does not exist in a vacuum. But in a country that has never considered equality beyond its most abstract iterations and that has practiced slavery far longer than freedom, race is never entirely absent.
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It's not bashing to point out that even the left has issues with representation.
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#2
True, but that's rather different from outright exclusion, though, truthfully speaking.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#194
Saying the left has an issue is not the same as saying "both sides are equally bad."
merrily
Apr 2014
#93
But didn't the right-wingers raise a lot of money for his defense? There are plenty of people who
Cal33
Apr 2014
#212
but there's a more general point to be made about broad areas of representation
Supersedeas
Apr 2014
#360
I was a discontented idealist of a sort myself, once, btw.....so I do speak from experience.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#85
I wasn't excluding anyone. To the contrary, in fact, if you read everything I've written so far.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#164
"vicarious observations equal the lived experience of others" Which I never implied, btw. nt
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#257
"You're doing it now" was my first thought when I read your prior post, before I saw
merrily
Apr 2014
#113
I'm sorry, but it seems like there's a bit of an objectivity problem here.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#187
The problem is trying to argue with someone who clearly has more direct experience with the subject
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#315
I read virtually every post in this thread. And it seemed you were, perhaps unintentionally, placing
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#323
Maybe you didn't mean to, but it seemed like you were trying to argue against people who reasonably
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#338
"...you are devaluing the lived experience of others..." No more than what others had done to me....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#242
BUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH RACISM/THE BLACK EXPERIENCE VIS-A-VIS RACISM ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2014
#243
But you're implying, whether you mean to or not, that your opinion is more "informed" than that
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#324
you nailed that one. I remeber Joe giving women here the same old brush off....
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#316
that you cite "sex negative" as a faction of feminist shows how very little you do know....
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#354
I'm sure you could fill a book with what you think you know about feminism. But you betrayed your
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#356
"I think we shoud be open with opinions and talk things through." Okay, that's fine.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#264
Yep. Why do I get the feeling this will be the first OP from this person that doesn't hit 100 recs?
Number23
Apr 2014
#178
"They haven't figured out yet how their slacking off in midterms effects the stuff they claim to...
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2014
#361
There are groups which both sides of the aisle consider their 'pets.' It's not hard to find them.
freshwest
May 2014
#373
I would dare say well over half the people here send their kids to non-public schools
shaayecanaan
Apr 2014
#7
I disagree. Why the urge to form liberal circular firing squads at this point......
Paladin
Apr 2014
#19
The poster to whom I responded is the poster who thinks we should not fire on each other.
merrily
Apr 2014
#197
Is your point that the OP or other posters on this thread are raking Dems over the coals?
merrily
Apr 2014
#205
"The black middle class was reportedly wiped out by the bank mortgage frauds..."
SMC22307
Apr 2014
#229
This is an on going effort to turn children into uneducated poor people and keep them that way.
L0oniX
Apr 2014
#26
Did you miss that the person asking the initial "offending" question ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2014
#68
"Actually we NEED to be careful and NOT MINIMIZE whatever problems DO exist." That's true, too.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#265
Obama blames lack of African American, Latino turnout for Democrats’ midterm woes
SMC22307
Apr 2014
#100
Some people do not show up because the issues that they put up front are not addressed.
bravenak
Apr 2014
#152
People sometimes seems shocked that most of the country is not up in arms over the nsa.
bravenak
Apr 2014
#182
I read this and looked up the sign, "children are more than test scores" and found this...
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#50
Maybe I will post the link to the blog in an OP, so everyone has the opportunity of reading through
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#131
This is definitely unfortunate, no doubt.....but this isn't really a case of exclusion.....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#52
I see some that forgot to show their rears in the other thread are doing it here
Number23
Apr 2014
#179
I'm not mad at you, but I *am* getting a little frustrated with this controversy in general, TBH.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#79
As far as you personally are concerned yes, as far as a demographic is concerned no.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#199
I'm suggesting that both our life experiences are utterly statistically insignificant.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#249
I had to look this group up, this was their first national conference, there were 20
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2014
#73
If you won't self delete, I'll ask you this: You don't want help from minorities and women?
Squinch
Apr 2014
#318
No. I'll expect creepy posts that suggest that "lily-whites" are the ones who will
Squinch
Apr 2014
#335
An entire state votes for Senator. For members of Congress, the people who live around them vote
merrily
Apr 2014
#142
At some point "we" need to acknowledge the racism that exists on the left
etherealtruth
Apr 2014
#105
"Gosh. No one seems to get your point but you. I wonder why?" Maybe it's because.....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#298
Self-righteous jack-asses usually don't make good organizers: to put people in motion,
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#106
Oh, but don't forget we're doing that WHILE insisting that there is no racism on the left.
Squinch
Apr 2014
#296
A good reminder. Also important to remember that there are regional differences.
stevenleser
Apr 2014
#222
Julian Vasquez Heilig who sits on the board of the organization the article is about
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2014
#227
So people who discuss racism they have experienced only THINK they have experienced
Squinch
Apr 2014
#319
My husband was in the student movement in the 60's. He said this same critique
Peregrine Took
Apr 2014
#327
I had thought that "whitesplaining" was exaggerated until I read this thread
friendly_iconoclast
May 2014
#366