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In reply to the discussion: The Unbearable Whiteness of the American Left [View all]Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)141. Right?
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It's not bashing to point out that even the left has issues with representation.
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#2
True, but that's rather different from outright exclusion, though, truthfully speaking.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#194
Saying the left has an issue is not the same as saying "both sides are equally bad."
merrily
Apr 2014
#93
But didn't the right-wingers raise a lot of money for his defense? There are plenty of people who
Cal33
Apr 2014
#212
but there's a more general point to be made about broad areas of representation
Supersedeas
Apr 2014
#360
I was a discontented idealist of a sort myself, once, btw.....so I do speak from experience.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#85
I wasn't excluding anyone. To the contrary, in fact, if you read everything I've written so far.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#164
"vicarious observations equal the lived experience of others" Which I never implied, btw. nt
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#257
"You're doing it now" was my first thought when I read your prior post, before I saw
merrily
Apr 2014
#113
I'm sorry, but it seems like there's a bit of an objectivity problem here.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#187
The problem is trying to argue with someone who clearly has more direct experience with the subject
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#315
I read virtually every post in this thread. And it seemed you were, perhaps unintentionally, placing
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#323
Maybe you didn't mean to, but it seemed like you were trying to argue against people who reasonably
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#338
"...you are devaluing the lived experience of others..." No more than what others had done to me....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#242
BUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH RACISM/THE BLACK EXPERIENCE VIS-A-VIS RACISM ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2014
#243
But you're implying, whether you mean to or not, that your opinion is more "informed" than that
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#324
you nailed that one. I remeber Joe giving women here the same old brush off....
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#316
that you cite "sex negative" as a faction of feminist shows how very little you do know....
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#354
I'm sure you could fill a book with what you think you know about feminism. But you betrayed your
bettyellen
Apr 2014
#356
"I think we shoud be open with opinions and talk things through." Okay, that's fine.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#264
Yep. Why do I get the feeling this will be the first OP from this person that doesn't hit 100 recs?
Number23
Apr 2014
#178
"They haven't figured out yet how their slacking off in midterms effects the stuff they claim to...
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2014
#361
There are groups which both sides of the aisle consider their 'pets.' It's not hard to find them.
freshwest
May 2014
#373
I would dare say well over half the people here send their kids to non-public schools
shaayecanaan
Apr 2014
#7
I disagree. Why the urge to form liberal circular firing squads at this point......
Paladin
Apr 2014
#19
The poster to whom I responded is the poster who thinks we should not fire on each other.
merrily
Apr 2014
#197
Is your point that the OP or other posters on this thread are raking Dems over the coals?
merrily
Apr 2014
#205
"The black middle class was reportedly wiped out by the bank mortgage frauds..."
SMC22307
Apr 2014
#229
This is an on going effort to turn children into uneducated poor people and keep them that way.
L0oniX
Apr 2014
#26
Did you miss that the person asking the initial "offending" question ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2014
#68
"Actually we NEED to be careful and NOT MINIMIZE whatever problems DO exist." That's true, too.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#265
Obama blames lack of African American, Latino turnout for Democrats’ midterm woes
SMC22307
Apr 2014
#100
Some people do not show up because the issues that they put up front are not addressed.
bravenak
Apr 2014
#152
People sometimes seems shocked that most of the country is not up in arms over the nsa.
bravenak
Apr 2014
#182
I read this and looked up the sign, "children are more than test scores" and found this...
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#50
Maybe I will post the link to the blog in an OP, so everyone has the opportunity of reading through
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#131
This is definitely unfortunate, no doubt.....but this isn't really a case of exclusion.....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#52
I see some that forgot to show their rears in the other thread are doing it here
Number23
Apr 2014
#179
I'm not mad at you, but I *am* getting a little frustrated with this controversy in general, TBH.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#79
As far as you personally are concerned yes, as far as a demographic is concerned no.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#199
I'm suggesting that both our life experiences are utterly statistically insignificant.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2014
#249
I had to look this group up, this was their first national conference, there were 20
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2014
#73
If you won't self delete, I'll ask you this: You don't want help from minorities and women?
Squinch
Apr 2014
#318
No. I'll expect creepy posts that suggest that "lily-whites" are the ones who will
Squinch
Apr 2014
#335
An entire state votes for Senator. For members of Congress, the people who live around them vote
merrily
Apr 2014
#142
At some point "we" need to acknowledge the racism that exists on the left
etherealtruth
Apr 2014
#105
"Gosh. No one seems to get your point but you. I wonder why?" Maybe it's because.....
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#298
Self-righteous jack-asses usually don't make good organizers: to put people in motion,
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#106
Oh, but don't forget we're doing that WHILE insisting that there is no racism on the left.
Squinch
Apr 2014
#296
A good reminder. Also important to remember that there are regional differences.
stevenleser
Apr 2014
#222
Julian Vasquez Heilig who sits on the board of the organization the article is about
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2014
#227
So people who discuss racism they have experienced only THINK they have experienced
Squinch
Apr 2014
#319
My husband was in the student movement in the 60's. He said this same critique
Peregrine Took
Apr 2014
#327
I had thought that "whitesplaining" was exaggerated until I read this thread
friendly_iconoclast
May 2014
#366