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MADem

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105. Who's funding Assange these days? Could his name be Vladimir?
Fri May 2, 2014, 12:04 PM
May 2014

Vlad gives money to Assange who gives money to Snowden...a perfect feedback loop!

I don't think Snowden was a helpless pawn either. I used to think he might be a sucker, but I think he may have been co-opted when he was working in Japan.

It's just too odd of a coincidence that he'd run to HONG KONG, which is enveloped in the loving arms of the totalitarian PRC, which just happens to be a place where he vacationed when he lived in JAPAN.

Drake didn't go to Russia. He revealed exactly what Snowden did, 9 years ago. Recursion Apr 2014 #1
Snowden wouldn't have been treated like Drake. Chelsea Manning's ordeal proves that. n/t. Ken Burch May 2014 #2
Like Snowden, Manning bulk-released classified intel. Drake didn't. Recursion May 2014 #3
Which doesn't exactly vindicate Drake's strategy there, does it? n/t. Ken Burch May 2014 #10
I dunno. Has it stopped because of Snowden, either? (nt) Recursion May 2014 #15
Not yet, but unlike with Drake, it hasn't actually got WORSE. Ken Burch May 2014 #17
Sure it has. A weaker NSA means a stronger CIA. That's much worse. Recursion May 2014 #23
There's no moral difference between the NSA and the CIA Ken Burch May 2014 #24
Surveillance *never* serves the people? Recursion May 2014 #25
OK, it did in World War II, when we were fighting a real enemy(the Nazis) Ken Burch May 2014 #28
So, for example, catching John Gotti wasn't worth tapping his phone? Recursion May 2014 #29
The problem with that argument is that, if you accept surveillance in those cases, Ken Burch May 2014 #31
Yes, the government is capable of abusing its power. Good thing we don't have single payer, then? Recursion May 2014 #32
Healthcare records have nothing in common with NSA surveillance. Ken Burch May 2014 #35
Ah, *these* government employees are good, and *those* ones are evil Recursion May 2014 #37
It's the truth. Ken Burch May 2014 #39
How many people who work at either do you actually know? Recursion May 2014 #42
I seriously doubt you know any humanistic democratic progressives Ken Burch May 2014 #49
+1000 Well stated cprise May 2014 #70
Well,the poster I was sparring with there still hasn't responded to it. Ken Burch May 2014 #75
If you can draw him into a philosophical discussion cprise May 2014 #78
Actually, yes. Adrahil May 2014 #86
Manning is military....they have an entirely different set of rules.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #5
Yes. Ken Burch May 2014 #12
did I say excuse? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #16
Snowden would be given a life sentence without parole. Ken Burch May 2014 #33
30 years was th max he was facing. 10 years per count on 3 count arely staircase May 2014 #119
Drake himself agrees he is an example of what NOT to do cprise May 2014 #62
i doubt you'll get responses to this... druidity33 May 2014 #67
Pure ProSense May 2014 #69
No such "implication"... cprise May 2014 #74
FACTS SUCK!!!! / sarcarsm <-----cause this is needed around here uponit7771 May 2014 #90
And Snowden HAD to go to Russia or Hong Kong OnyxCollie May 2014 #4
Paul Revere ran to Russia, either by choice or out of stupidity... SidDithers May 2014 #6
Paul Revere *rode* to *Lexington*. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #8
He most certainly was a traitor--a traitor to the British Crown! MADem May 2014 #53
'He Is Priceless': Here's Why Edward Snowden Is Screwed ProSense May 2014 #7
You would prefer that nothing be changed. Ken Burch May 2014 #11
No, ProSense May 2014 #14
But there'd be no debate if Snowden hadn't done what he did. Ken Burch May 2014 #19
Snowden was ProSense May 2014 #27
You have so lost this "debate". cprise May 2014 #68
When backed into a corner surrounded by facts, Sheepshank May 2014 #102
As I pointed out, xenophobic conspiracy theories aren't 'facts'. n/t cprise May 2014 #103
If Snowden is Putin's tool, OnyxCollie May 2014 #21
From you link, PS.. thanks.. Cha May 2014 #26
And why are you dissing Assange? He was right, too. Ken Burch May 2014 #30
Given that we forced down the plane of a sovereign head of state, MannyGoldstein May 2014 #9
In the reality-based community, crackpot conspiracy theories don't become facts struggle4progress May 2014 #13
Other than apologies from foreign heads of state MannyGoldstein May 2014 #22
Portugal had notified Morales a day or two before his departure from Moscow that struggle4progress May 2014 #50
And didn't they later claim they had a fuel gauge issue? MADem May 2014 #56
We still owe Evo Morales and the people of Bolivia an apology for that. Ken Burch May 2014 #40
What actual evidence exists of any US involvement in that event at all? struggle4progress May 2014 #65
Thank you. snot May 2014 #18
I'm not. The pro-secrecy, pro-status quo brigade was bound to turn up. Ken Burch May 2014 #20
I wonder if Puglover May 2014 #115
He DID have the alternative to only collect and release information about US internal surveillance. pnwmom May 2014 #34
It's not cleanly separated like that. Ken Burch May 2014 #41
And it's not as if all his releases are fine, no matter what the content. n/t pnwmom May 2014 #44
I'm not at all comfortable... Adrahil May 2014 #85
He most certainly DID have one. He was either stupid, or he's everywhere he wants to be. MADem May 2014 #36
Would you agree that, once he said he wanted to go to South America Ken Burch May 2014 #38
For all you know, Putin organized that little playlet with Evo to create buzz. MADem May 2014 #43
Of course not. The US had no obligation to offer him unimpeded passage , pnwmom May 2014 #45
Excellent analysis, MADem! Cha May 2014 #47
P.S... Have you seen this theory? Cha May 2014 #48
Yes. I have to say, the more he pipes up, the more he makes the pronouncements about MADem May 2014 #51
Putin and Comrade Eddie needed to get Cha May 2014 #52
Enough with the "Comrade Eddie" crap Ken Burch May 2014 #76
Phrase has NOTHING to do with cold war and comrade is Russian term no US uponit7771 May 2014 #94
LOL!!! Capt. Obvious May 2014 #99
Comrade is actually a French term, adopted by the Russians. Ken Burch May 2014 #113
Isn't Putin doing that, restarting the Cold War? MADem May 2014 #106
He's trying to put the old pre-revolutionary Tsarist empire back together. Ken Burch May 2014 #114
I didn't say "commie"--I did say "Soviet Socialist Republics" though. MADem May 2014 #116
Nor has Wikileaks released the Russian files. joshcryer May 2014 #55
+1,000..! MADem May 2014 #57
1000+ uponit7771 May 2014 #93
Nothing leaked about Putin is a really good point, seems everyone else has been on the list except h uponit7771 May 2014 #92
The events are accurate, but I don't think he intended it. joshcryer May 2014 #54
Two things stick out. Well, three. MADem May 2014 #58
So Snowden wasn't stuck in an airport? WOW!! This Snowden thing seems more rapped around Russia uponit7771 May 2014 #95
He probably went straight to a dacha when he landed. MADem May 2014 #104
I was very reluctant to think Snowden was anything but a broken toy. randome May 2014 #98
Excellent post! Bobbie Jo May 2014 #87
Of course! That's why Snowden went to China first! Major Hogwash May 2014 #46
Yes! Any idiot can see that a layover in Hong Kong on a flight from Hawaii to Moscow Maedhros May 2014 #110
Perhaps, but if he had half a brain he would have located himself in a country of his choice before lostincalifornia May 2014 #59
K&R. redgreenandblue May 2014 #60
The pearl clutching over Snowden being stranded in Russia is just a distraction. Obnoxious_One May 2014 #61
Sowden is a dirty traitor and I wish cancer on him and any children he ever has. n/t leeroysphitz May 2014 #63
Wow. Get a grip! elias49 May 2014 #64
i hope that it never happens to you or anyone that you know or love.. frylock May 2014 #66
You'd wish cancer on his future KIDS? Like this would be THEIR fault? Ken Burch May 2014 #83
Snowden did NOT want to go to Russia. The US Govt forced him to remain there when they sabrina 1 May 2014 #71
Again, ProSense May 2014 #72
You can post all the words and links you want, but the FACT IS, Snowden WAS NOT HEADED FOR RUSSIA. sabrina 1 May 2014 #73
Those are NOT the facts, even if he wasn't headed for Russia why the lie about being "stuck" in an uponit7771 May 2014 #97
If he wanted to go to South America, why didn't he go there, instead of Hong Kong? Adrahil May 2014 #88
That has been explained over and over again. He was absolutely correct to choose a route that sabrina 1 May 2014 #100
Bull. Snowden was funneled exactly where Assange wanted him. NT Adrahil May 2014 #101
Who's funding Assange these days? Could his name be Vladimir? MADem May 2014 #105
New taking points don't facts. Snowden was headed for SA When the US Govt forced sabrina 1 May 2014 #117
Make up your mind Sheepshank May 2014 #107
Repetition = Truth Bobbie Jo May 2014 #109
although it's not working very well in this case. n/t Sheepshank May 2014 #111
No, not so much Bobbie Jo May 2014 #112
And now to correct that erroneous statement from you. First, the US GOVT forced Snowden to REMAIN sabrina 1 May 2014 #118
look at your post #100...YOU said he "chose" Sheepshank May 2014 #120
This is not reality uponit7771 May 2014 #96
Snowden had alternative decisions, he chose not to use them. I doubt if Thinkingabout May 2014 #77
I surmise life in Russia is better than getting life in the US prison system cprise May 2014 #81
Life in Russia may be better for as long as Putin needs him to remain as a patsy. Thinkingabout May 2014 #84
He could have stayed in Hawaii lame54 May 2014 #79
Uh, no. Hawaii is part of the U.S., and he'd have been arrested there. Ken Burch May 2014 #80
I think you missed the point - but that's ok - good night lame54 May 2014 #82
Not if---as was reported early on--they were "on" to him and his security clearance was about to be MADem May 2014 #108
1. Most of the 'secrets' Snowden revealed have to do with international spying. randome May 2014 #89
"We all know that no other choices existed..." Blue_Tires May 2014 #91
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