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pampango

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16. During his 2010 election campaign Yanukovich said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:34 AM
May 2014
strategic aim".

In May 2011, Yanukovych stated that he will strive for Ukraine to join the EU. Yanukovych's stance towards integration with the EU has, according to The Economist, led him to be "seen in Moscow as a traitor", a reversal of the 2004 presidential election where Moscow openly supported Yanukovych.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanukovich#Presidential_campaign_.26_election

Of course in 2013 he changed that the policy of favoring integration with Europe and signed an agreement with Russia. Whatever his reasons for this policy reversal, apparently his explanation of the reasoning behind his reversal was not accepted by many Ukrainians. I dare say that many of us do not like it when a presidential candidate campaigns for one policy then, once in office, decides that the opposite policy is actually the way to go.

After months of massive, sustained public protests throughout a cold, Ukrainian winter, Yanukovich signed an agreement with the protesters in which he agreed to remain in office until early elections in December and to use security forces to protect public buildings. He still had complete control of the security forces and the military and could quite easily have lived up to his end of the agreement. If he had done so he would still be president of Ukraine today, governing the country and preparing himself for national elections in 5 months.

What did he do? Rather than remain in office and to his job with the protection of the security forces, he decided to pursue a different strategy - running away.

Within hours of signing the agreement the protesters (with the police, army and security forces under his control), he hastily abandoned his residence and left Kiev. Before leaving he ordered security forces not to protect public buildings. Why issue an order contradicting the agreement he had just signed? The image of mobs mobbing and looting public buildings would create an image of lawlessness and violence that could be used by others to justify military intervention. Of course the looting and burning did not happen (much to the surprise of him and Putin), but that did not change the spin.

If he had simply lived up to the agreement he signed with the protesters in February, he would be sitting in Kiev running the government pending elections in December. Now his own political party has abandoned him and Putin never mentions him. Indeed reports are that Putin is quite mad at him for the mess he made in Kiev and never says publicly that he thinks Yanukovich should return to the presidency.

It's not much of a shock that the fascists of one country hate those of another. That's how it works.

Actually, no it is not. Fascists in Europe get along with other just fine, no matter what country they are from. If you know of examples of "hatred" among fascists of different European countries, please provide them. Right now European fascists are planning to form a coalition in the EU parliament after elections this month, assuming they do as well as many people seem to think they will do. The fact that European fascists side with Putin and not the government in Kiev is highly relevant. They side with those who share their goals - regardless of what country they are from - not their enemies.
I wonder if we'll see these names again as Ukraine's state owned assets are privatized. pa28 May 2014 #1
and those 'partners' couldn't have found a better tool for the job if they'd tried. polly7 May 2014 #2
And this is a European success story! JackRiddler May 2014 #3
I know, right?! polly7 May 2014 #31
Excellent post. Thanks. n/t ronnie624 May 2014 #17
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik May 2014 #4
'Yatz' our man, I've forgotten about NATO, although I've posted about it myself. /nt jakeXT May 2014 #5
True, there's so much elite deception to keep track of. JackRiddler May 2014 #23
K & R malaise May 2014 #6
And look at who he's working along with... go west young man May 2014 #7
One would assume that if fascists had a significant degree of control in Kiev, European fascists pampango May 2014 #9
Well thanks for telling us what fascists think. JackRiddler May 2014 #12
During his 2010 election campaign Yanukovich said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our pampango May 2014 #16
Your omissions are revealing. JackRiddler May 2014 #24
As are your responses. pampango May 2014 #25
"Deal with the actual subject. Don't deflect. Thanks." Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #66
Informative. ronnie624 May 2014 #19
Cheers Ronnie.... go west young man May 2014 #21
Yes...a snip from the article: KoKo May 2014 #43
Looks like Svoboda may not be long for the Ukrainian government. Their man is polling at 1.5% with pampango May 2014 #46
It would be...but, I wonder how they will feel about having just 5%. KoKo May 2014 #53
Fantastic indeed... JackRiddler May 2014 #55
Hm. Many passionate defenders are missing here. JackRiddler May 2014 #8
Speaking of neocons: How Russia's president resembles the American hawks who hate him most pampango May 2014 #10
That Putin, he sure is dislikable. JackRiddler May 2014 #11
The bus is crashing.... go west young man May 2014 #22
Well, some are over here ..... polly7 May 2014 #13
That's easier to have a fight over. JackRiddler May 2014 #14
That's very true. nt. polly7 May 2014 #15
However, saying KievfascistKievfascistKievfascist does seem to do the trick LanternWaste May 2014 #20
It isn't easy defending shifting principles. ronnie624 May 2014 #18
Yatsenyuk lover? JackRiddler May 2014 #26
I get the sense that Putin is going to win this battle, and send our puppets packing. reformist2 May 2014 #27
Is it even about Putin? JackRiddler May 2014 #28
Indeed. A peaceful, negotiatied solution would serve all Ukrainians best. pampango May 2014 #29
Assuming "our" side doesn't relinquish control voluntarily, Putin's involvement will be needed. reformist2 May 2014 #50
Jack, can you give me that evidence of a western-sponsored coup in Ukraine? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #30
I cannot wake a man pretending to sleep. JackRiddler May 2014 #33
So in other words, you can't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #34
In other words, you ignore it. JackRiddler May 2014 #35
This thread shows that Victor Yanukoych was forcibly removed from office against his own will? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #36
Still waiting for you to show me where in your post it says Yanukovych was forcibly removed. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #40
Thank you for kicking this important thread! JackRiddler May 2014 #41
Much obliged, sir. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author JackRiddler May 2014 #45
What about glenn greenwalds partner/handler Jesus Malverde May 2014 #32
Ties in with this....the picture is coming together....USAID again go west young man May 2014 #44
Greenwald took this apart two days later... JackRiddler May 2014 #54
Actually S&G were partners, then the US sent Omi their long standing operative down to talk to G... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #56
Pure speculation, no basis. JackRiddler May 2014 #57
From G? where? Jesus Malverde May 2014 #58
Great post on this....and definite Recommend! KoKo May 2014 #37
Thank you. JackRiddler May 2014 #38
Good work! TBF May 2014 #39
Thank you! JackRiddler May 2014 #47
Did you hear that Russia has reponded to sanctions by demanding all oil payments be made malaise May 2014 #48
Now I have, thanks. JackRiddler May 2014 #49
More pertinent info coming together.... go west young man May 2014 #51
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor May 2014 #52
Post-modern coups even get branded. JackRiddler May 2014 #59
Looks like the coup was as grass roots as the Tea Party Strelnikov_ May 2014 #60
DU definitely ain't what it used to be.... go west young man May 2014 #61
Hey Jack. Look, I'm kicking your thread! Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #62
You are pushing a particular conspiracy theory... JackRiddler May 2014 #63
All you do is deflect and project. Constantly. Consistently. But you finally admit it. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #64
Lol. ronnie624 May 2014 #65
Kick. nt. polly7 May 2014 #67
This is just oh so special Oilwellian May 2014 #68
Ding ding we have a winner malaise May 2014 #69
If only the OP wasn't so dishonest when labeling it a "coup d'etat" Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #70
Renewed relevance and against denial. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #71
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