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go west young man

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22. The bus is crashing....
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:13 PM
May 2014

and their trying to jump off of it. The silence is deafening. A few naysayers are still hanging on and refusing to believe their lying eyes but the wheels are turning in bigger circles....did you see Robert gates interview on Face The Nation? I'm no fan of Gates or the show but he did have some valid points on Russia....points the Obama administrations seems to have jumped the shark on.

I've said all along that this whole thing was a neocon adventure for the MIC to restart NATO get big contracts and foment a New Cold War....it's failing on all fronts and now President Obama(who I voted for) is possibly going to have his last two years of domestic priorities (which I fully support and wish he would have focused more on) sidelined by the disaster of Ukraine and attempting to economically weaken Russia.

I wonder if we'll see these names again as Ukraine's state owned assets are privatized. pa28 May 2014 #1
and those 'partners' couldn't have found a better tool for the job if they'd tried. polly7 May 2014 #2
And this is a European success story! JackRiddler May 2014 #3
I know, right?! polly7 May 2014 #31
Excellent post. Thanks. n/t ronnie624 May 2014 #17
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik May 2014 #4
'Yatz' our man, I've forgotten about NATO, although I've posted about it myself. /nt jakeXT May 2014 #5
True, there's so much elite deception to keep track of. JackRiddler May 2014 #23
K & R malaise May 2014 #6
And look at who he's working along with... go west young man May 2014 #7
One would assume that if fascists had a significant degree of control in Kiev, European fascists pampango May 2014 #9
Well thanks for telling us what fascists think. JackRiddler May 2014 #12
During his 2010 election campaign Yanukovich said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our pampango May 2014 #16
Your omissions are revealing. JackRiddler May 2014 #24
As are your responses. pampango May 2014 #25
"Deal with the actual subject. Don't deflect. Thanks." Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #66
Informative. ronnie624 May 2014 #19
Cheers Ronnie.... go west young man May 2014 #21
Yes...a snip from the article: KoKo May 2014 #43
Looks like Svoboda may not be long for the Ukrainian government. Their man is polling at 1.5% with pampango May 2014 #46
It would be...but, I wonder how they will feel about having just 5%. KoKo May 2014 #53
Fantastic indeed... JackRiddler May 2014 #55
Hm. Many passionate defenders are missing here. JackRiddler May 2014 #8
Speaking of neocons: How Russia's president resembles the American hawks who hate him most pampango May 2014 #10
That Putin, he sure is dislikable. JackRiddler May 2014 #11
The bus is crashing.... go west young man May 2014 #22
Well, some are over here ..... polly7 May 2014 #13
That's easier to have a fight over. JackRiddler May 2014 #14
That's very true. nt. polly7 May 2014 #15
However, saying KievfascistKievfascistKievfascist does seem to do the trick LanternWaste May 2014 #20
It isn't easy defending shifting principles. ronnie624 May 2014 #18
Yatsenyuk lover? JackRiddler May 2014 #26
I get the sense that Putin is going to win this battle, and send our puppets packing. reformist2 May 2014 #27
Is it even about Putin? JackRiddler May 2014 #28
Indeed. A peaceful, negotiatied solution would serve all Ukrainians best. pampango May 2014 #29
Assuming "our" side doesn't relinquish control voluntarily, Putin's involvement will be needed. reformist2 May 2014 #50
Jack, can you give me that evidence of a western-sponsored coup in Ukraine? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #30
I cannot wake a man pretending to sleep. JackRiddler May 2014 #33
So in other words, you can't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #34
In other words, you ignore it. JackRiddler May 2014 #35
This thread shows that Victor Yanukoych was forcibly removed from office against his own will? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #36
Still waiting for you to show me where in your post it says Yanukovych was forcibly removed. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #40
Thank you for kicking this important thread! JackRiddler May 2014 #41
Much obliged, sir. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author JackRiddler May 2014 #45
What about glenn greenwalds partner/handler Jesus Malverde May 2014 #32
Ties in with this....the picture is coming together....USAID again go west young man May 2014 #44
Greenwald took this apart two days later... JackRiddler May 2014 #54
Actually S&G were partners, then the US sent Omi their long standing operative down to talk to G... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #56
Pure speculation, no basis. JackRiddler May 2014 #57
From G? where? Jesus Malverde May 2014 #58
Great post on this....and definite Recommend! KoKo May 2014 #37
Thank you. JackRiddler May 2014 #38
Good work! TBF May 2014 #39
Thank you! JackRiddler May 2014 #47
Did you hear that Russia has reponded to sanctions by demanding all oil payments be made malaise May 2014 #48
Now I have, thanks. JackRiddler May 2014 #49
More pertinent info coming together.... go west young man May 2014 #51
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor May 2014 #52
Post-modern coups even get branded. JackRiddler May 2014 #59
Looks like the coup was as grass roots as the Tea Party Strelnikov_ May 2014 #60
DU definitely ain't what it used to be.... go west young man May 2014 #61
Hey Jack. Look, I'm kicking your thread! Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #62
You are pushing a particular conspiracy theory... JackRiddler May 2014 #63
All you do is deflect and project. Constantly. Consistently. But you finally admit it. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #64
Lol. ronnie624 May 2014 #65
Kick. nt. polly7 May 2014 #67
This is just oh so special Oilwellian May 2014 #68
Ding ding we have a winner malaise May 2014 #69
If only the OP wasn't so dishonest when labeling it a "coup d'etat" Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #70
Renewed relevance and against denial. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #71
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